“Bitcoin was the first distributed systems paper I read with an economic layer built into it — and that changed everything.” @kenzi_morikawa sits down with @averyching, Co-Founder & CTO of @Aptos, to explore his path from supercomputing and large-scale data infrastructure at Meta to the world of crypto. Avery reflects on discovering Bitcoin and recognizing how economic incentives could transform distributed systems, a realization that eventually shaped his decision to co-found Aptos Labs.

“We focused on four core areas: finance, gaming, social, and entertainment — but DeFi has gained the most traction on @Aptos.” @sachi_morikawa joins @averyching, Co-Founder & CTO of @Aptos, to explore what's driving DeFi adoption across the network. From Move's security advantages to the composability that lets applications integrate with larger protocols, they examine why DeFi is leading Aptos' ecosystem growth and where that momentum could lead next.

What keeps someone building when the goal is bigger than any single product? @diksha_nanduri speaks with @averyching, Co-Founder & CTO of @Aptos, about his motivation to make blockchain a public utility. They explore his vision for a more open internet where users control their assets and can transact freely without relying on centralized intermediaries.

Our latest episode is out today, featuring @AveryChing, Co-Founder & CTO of @Aptos. We dive into the intersection of AI and crypto, Aptos' fundraising journey, its position against Ethereum and Solana, and the future of the Move programming language. Avery also shares insights from his decade at Meta, including his work on Diem, and how those experiences shaped his approach to building scalable blockchain infrastructure. A conversation on Aptos' long-term vision and what comes next for Web3.

“What happens when someone inside one of the most iconic retail platforms of the last cycle sees its limits up close?” @kenzi_morikawa sits down with @jayendra_jog, Co-Founder of @SeiNetwork, to revisit his journey from @RobinhoodApp to building in crypto. From Robinhood’s rapid growth and IPO to the GameStop trading restrictions, Jay reflects on the limitations of traditional finance and how those experiences shaped his vision for more open, resilient, and decentralized financial infrastructure.

“High-performance infrastructure only matters if it expands what users can actually do onchain — and makes that experience accessible at scale.” @sachi_morikawa joins @jayendra_jog, Co-Founder of @SeiNetwork, to discuss how parallel execution is unlocking new possibilities for onchain applications. From DeFi trading to high-frequency transactions, they explore how greater throughput and lower fees can improve accessibility and remove barriers for smaller users. The conversation also highlights Bancor’s Carbon DeFi and its activity on Sei, illustrating how infrastructure performance can translate into real-world adoption.

“Virtual machines are like cities — once they reach critical mass, they become magnets that are incredibly hard to displace.” @diksha_nanduri sits down with @jayendra_jog, Co-Founder of @SeiNetwork, to explore why established ecosystems like the EVM remain dominant despite newer alternatives. From New York and San Francisco to blockchain networks, they discuss how network effects attract users and liquidity, why better technology isn't always enough, and what it takes for emerging ecosystems to compete.

In this episode, we sit down with Jayendra Jog (@jayendra_jog), Founder of @SeiNetwork, to explore his transition from traditional finance at @RobinhoodApp to the world of blockchain infrastructure. Jay shares how his experience with financial markets, user behavior, and product development influenced his approach to building Sei. We examine why established ecosystems like the EVM are so difficult to challenge, drawing comparisons between blockchain virtual machines and thriving cities. What attracts developers to an ecosystem, and more importantly, what convinces them to stay? The discussion moves into Web3 performance, exploring how parallel execution can address scalability bottlenecks, why transaction throughput remains a critical challenge, and what infrastructure needs to deliver to support mainstream adoption. Beyond the technical side, Jay offers his perspective on memecoins as expressions of internet culture, collective identity, and the powerful network effects that emerge from onchain communities. A conversation about building competitive ecosystems, understanding what users actually need, and creating blockchain infrastructure capable of reaching far beyond crypto's current audience.

The future of decentralized AI depends on infrastructure capable of handling data at an entirely different scale. In this conversation, @sachi_morikawa joins @michaelh_0g, Founder of @0G_labs, to examine the evolving landscape of data availability and the performance demands of AI-native blockchain systems. They explore how 0G compares with Celestia, Avail, and EigenDA, why throughput must increase by orders of magnitude, and how overcoming broadcast bottlenecks and integrating decentralized storage could transform data ingestion and retrieval. A deep dive into next-generation data availability, high-performance blockchain architecture, and the infrastructure required to unlock scalable decentralized AI.

Every major technological breakthrough begins with curiosity — and sometimes, an unexpected environment can shape an entire entrepreneurial journey. @michaelh_0g, Founder of @0G_labs, joins @kenzi_morikawa for an insightful discussion tracing his journey from Berlin to Silicon Valley and the early experiences that sparked his passion for technology and entrepreneurship. The conversation explores how time spent at his father's SAP Lab, independent learning, and an unconventional path helped shape his interest in Web3 and ultimately led to the creation of 0G Labs. A closer look at the origins of entrepreneurial ambition, the power of intellectual curiosity, and the personal journey behind building decentralized AI infrastructure.

The early days of crypto were defined by radical experimentation, permissionless innovation, and an entirely new approach to building technology. Our host @diksha_nanduri sits down with @michaelh_0g, Founder of @0G_labs, to revisit the explosive creativity of the 2016–17 crypto ecosystem and explore how that culture continues to shape Web3. They discuss how tokenization is unlocking alternative funding models, creating new opportunities for open-source development, and challenging the limitations of traditional Web2 economics. A deep dive into permissionless innovation, decentralized incentives, and the economic models that could power the next generation of Web3 breakthroughs.

In this week’s episode, we welcome Michael Heinrich (@michaelh_0g), Founder of 0G Labs (@0G_labs), for an in-depth conversation on the future of decentralized artificial intelligence, next-generation blockchain infrastructure, and the mindset required to build transformative technology. From an unconventional early journey to founding one of the projects advancing decentralized AI infrastructure, Michael shares the experiences, challenges, and defining decisions that shaped his entrepreneurial vision. We explore how meditation, mental discipline, and long-term strategic thinking have influenced his leadership philosophy, providing a unique perspective on what it takes to build and scale ambitious technology companies. At the center of our discussion is 0G Labs and its mission to redefine how artificial intelligence is developed, deployed, and owned. Michael breaks down the potential of modular AI blockchain architecture, decentralized computing, distributed data storage, and community-owned infrastructure to challenge traditional centralized AI models. We examine how 0G Labs is working to unlock a new generation of AI-powered applications, giving developers, enterprises, and decentralized ecosystems the infrastructure needed to build more open, scalable, and accessible intelligent systems. As AI and blockchain continue to converge, fundamental questions around data ownership, computational power, decentralization, and digital sovereignty are becoming increasingly important. This episode explores the technologies, founder philosophies, and infrastructure innovations that could shape the next era of artificial intelligence — and why decentralized AI may represent one of the most significant opportunities in the evolution of Web3.