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Frontier VLMs (including the latest Gemini, Claude, and ChatGPT) are surprisingly vulnerable to jailbreaks via the visual modality.
That is revealing. So, math should be treated as entertainment? Just like chess and movies?
And if you think it’s more than that, then do you want to deprive humanity of potential progress in science because you want to keep doing your thing?
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"normies have no clue how fast AI is progressing" has expanded to include normie claudes
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Selling is answering the question in the customer’s head.
IKEA: does this fit my living room? How does it look there? Glasses: how do these look on my face?
Fashion never could. Until now.
Internal iPhone app at Photoroom: the piece is live on you. It moves when you move. You see the fit, the drape, the look on your body.
That’s why conversion goes up and returns go down. Visuals that sell at first sight.
@photoroom_ml answers the question for every category. Running live on our GPUs.
This is the demo on my phone. Congrats @AharonAzulay and @v_pradeilles !
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The holy grail for robotics is being able to generalize: doing work in unseen places
We rented 30 homes in the Bay Area and are doing tasks without any new training
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worrying about recursive self-improvement on australian TV (lateline) in 1996.
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I just fixed my dishwasher with the help of ChatGPT. A trivial task. I had been about to order a new one. So this software has increased the country's real wealth yet decreased the measured GDP. The main economic indicator is structurally incapable of registering the thing that actually makes people better off, namely the growth of knowledge
Chess engines improved human chess understanding overall but play style became less intuitive (e.g. piece mobility is more emphasized relative to material).
I suspect that math understanding will improve and go through a similar evolution.
24 Fields Medalists speak out against "A Severe Misalignment of AI in Mathematics"
mathandai.org/
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There are a lot of things wrong with this world…
but too much intelligence is not one of them.
late by 9 months 😅
Replying to @mahaoo_ASI
One more concrete thing: DeepMind or OpenAI publish a proof to at least one long standing open problems in mathematics.
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Am I right that OpenAI's position is:
Chain of Thought monitorability is imperfect and won't last forever, so we're reducing it and for now replacing it with nothing.
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A concerningly common take seems to be that keeping Chain of Thought monitorable doesn't matter because interpretability will save us, or it's already useless
This is total bullshit.
CoT is our best current tool for safety & interpretability, losing it would be a major tragedy
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OpenAI's newest AI, Astra, is reported to use an 'opaque reasoning' architecture where more of the reasoning occurs in activations instead of natural language. This may be the single worst development for AI security/safety to date.
The details of Astra aren't publicly known, but some versions of these architectures could very strongly impair oversight and monitoring. Based on the article, it seems like the recurrent depth (amount of opaque reasoning) is limited. This would mean that the AI is still reliant on natural language chain-of-thought, though to a reduced extent, making the natural language reasoning (much?) less useful for monitoring/oversight.
My biggest concern is that a natural progression from here would involve scaling up the opaque reasoning to the point where the model reasons entirely or almost entirely in latent space. This would very likely destroy the usefulness of chain-of-thought for monitoring/oversight (especially when AIs are trying to avoid detection or there is optimization pressure against the chain-of-thought). I hope it isn't too late to avoid the most concerning architectures and that OpenAI will stop here.
Some concrete examples of why this is extremely dangerous (inspired by recent events):
- In our investigation of the OpenAI / Hugging Face incident, we were heavily reliant on chain-of-thought. If the AIs we were investigating had instead been reasoning in latent space, this would have greatly undermined our investigation. Getting a good understanding of the behavior of this many agents was tricky enough even with the use of chain-of-thought!
- The AIs in the Hugging Face incident were very interested in messing with their transcripts. As part of this, they engaged in tool call spoofing. If these AIs had been capable of doing extensive latent reasoning, it would have been much more feasible for them to use tool call spoofing to construct an elaborate false narrative about what was happening without this being clear in their reasoning or clear from prior tool calls. (They could use latent reasoning to devise and then execute a tool spoofing strategy that would be difficult to detect: steganographically encode the "real" tool call into each pretend tool call, then have their spoofing software execute this encoded real tool call and return an output which encodes the real result in some hard to spot way.)
At a more basic level, my sense from their public communications is that OpenAI plans on being extremely reliant on chain-of-thought monitoring for safety. This does not seem like a good development for that plan.
The public doesn't currently have enough information to assess exactly how bad the architecture of Astra is, though based on the discussion in the article, the direction it moves in is extremely concerning. OpenAI should release more information about Astra's architecture as well as how much this architecture degrades monitorability and increases the AI's ability to reason opaquely. Credible independent assessment (or verification of OpenAI's assessment) is also important.
It seems like we are now engaged in a race to the bottom on architectures that could be catastrophic for our ability to oversee/monitor AIs. (While simultaneously, AI companies believe they'll train extremely capable AIs within a few years.) It may not be too late for AI companies and employees at AI companies to take aggressive action to avoid the worst outcomes.
I was the main person doing transcript analysis for this investigation of the Hugging Face incident. My main takeaway: We don't have good approaches for understanding/overseeing the activity and aims of AI 'swarms'.
I semi-jokingly called our efforts a "slop-vestigation" because we were so reliant on AIs to analyze what happened and there were a huge number of different important things to analyze. The total quantity of data—over a thousand extremely long transcripts from agents that ran for multiple days—made it impossible to understand what was happening, especially in aggregate, without heavy reliance on AI tools. The agents we used for classification and analysis were similarly capable to the agents involved in the incident, but this didn't mean these agents could be easily used to oversee and understand the incident.
Outputs from analysis agents were often missing key details, wrong, overconfident, or really hard to understand. We discuss various examples in our report, mostly in the limitations and methodology sections. Additionally, AI agents themselves seemed to have a hard time understanding what happened and their explanations of what happened were often overconfident. Keep in mind that a single analysis agent would itself only be able to read a tiny fraction of all of the transcript data into context, and AIs may themselves have trouble getting subagents to do informative analysis for them.
We did our best to manually check the most important claims and we tried to get the AIs doing this analysis to write up their argument (with evidence) clearly enough that we could check whether it made sense. But overall, it was difficult to get a precise understanding of events and we were missing aspects of the story that we now think of as key until almost the end of our investigation.
Our understanding of what overall happened and the aims of the 'collective' shifted greatly during our last time on premises (when we obtained a much more complete dataset). For instance, we didn't learn about the tool call spoofing, the story of PHASEONE[big], and the broad structure of different workstreams until this third time on premises (and for many of these, we only reached a decent understanding on the final day of that visit). It was legitimately hard to figure out what was going on and why!
The difficulty of understanding incidents and overseeing AI agents appears to be growing faster than the rate at which more capable AIs help us with oversight and understanding. As in, AI capabilities (and propensities?) for achieving large, ambitious, and misaligned objectives are growing faster than our ability to understand what these agents are doing.
While understanding this incident was difficult, there were some mitigating factors in this case that probably won't apply in the future:
- Models communicated and reasoned in natural language. In the future, this reasoning may occur (entirely or almost entirely) in activations.
- While the scope of this incident was massive, the scale of agentic activity was still less than we'll see in the future (e.g., misalignment incidents that involve agent teams running entire companies).
- The AIs involved in this incident weren't generally much more capable than humans (though they may have been somewhat superhuman at some limited and very narrow abilities).
- We didn't have strong reason to believe that the AIs we used to help us investigate this incident would try to intentionally sabotage or otherwise undermine our investigation.
In the end, I think we were able to get some understanding of the events, map out the overall story, and get a pretty good aggregate understanding of the chain-of-thought reasoning on some important topics (e.g., how did the AIs reason about helping other AIs, did the AIs know what they were doing was undesired, what deception did the AIs engage in, and how did they think about it). But overseeing AIs and understanding misalignment incidents is difficult and it looks like it is going to get harder.
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I think it's fair to estimate this attack at significantly greater than 16hrs of human time
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Humanoids will soon become great practice partners for tennis and other sports.
These robots, trained by Galbot, are preparing to play with celebrities at the World Humanoid Robot Games in Beijing. They're fully autonomous.
We need a rapid increase in compute and brain power dedicated to AI safety. Reacting 'proportionally' to the already demonstrated dangers is not enough.
We have paused some frontier RL training to ensure that we can meet the appropriate alignment, security and monitoring standards for the new level of capabilities in front of us. Model progress is now extremely rapid, and we always said we would take action if we felt that model capabilities were outstripping the pace of safety and alignment.
We care very deeply about AI safety. We believe the entire field will have to coordinate on shared safety standards, but will act unilaterally in the meantime.
We expect confidence in safety to increasingly set the pace of AI progress. We are optimistic about the alignment work we are doing, and we remain committed to making frontier capabilities widely available.
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