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i respect the “friction in games” criticism, but so much of it is rooted in the same mentality as boomers who said they walked 30 miles to school every day with cinderblocks on their feet and were better for it

It’s ironic you guys are arguing “depth” the reason you don’t enjoy classic is because it’s not a modern live service that you can shut your brain off too. You don’t read quest, you don’t understand anything that you’re doing. All you know is next reward, and click to claim.

Hey guys here's a super easy streamlined way for level 34-40 if you don't want to quest :)

Lmao I play with 12 people. Youre a fucking retard Go play classic faggot

I spent the other night doing a grand total of three quests. The rest of the night was spent sitting around, fishing, and enjoying the world. Didn't gain a single level but felt like time better spent than most nights I've played WoW in years.

Yeah. Thats right! Again. Women DO NOT like questing. Men do. Stop trying to force retail BS into forever. WE DONT WANT IT and this time we will FIGHT to stop any retail wow woman from trying to change the game into retail.

I'm seeing a lot of discourse about who WoW Forever is being made for and while I cannot speak for anyone else on the team I can speak for myself. I am making WoW forever for the classic gamer and for the millions of people who have had their accounts lapse over the years because they were not satisfied with changes that were made to the game. Whether those changes were to the art style, the story, social aspects, game design, or changes to their favorite class. I did not spend the last year of my life relearning and mastering how to do things like we did it 20+ years ago for retail players. I could have taken it easy and just kept doing things like I had done for the past 8 years on retail...because I was much more familiar with it and it actually takes a lot less time to do (height maps on textures do a ton of heavy lifting). Because the reality is that the majority of retail players wouldn't care and would probably actually prefer it. But I felt I had a duty to uphold an artistic vision and integrity that millions of people expect from us. But not just for our players, but for my co-workers past and present who worked on it over 20 years ago. If I could not create something that resembled their work then I failed not only them...but myself. Please do not take this as me throwing any shade at retail players or the retail team because I am one myself...but I wanted to make Forever as authentic of a Vanilla experience as possible. This involves making decisions wildly different than retail. It means holding the line against changes that create a domino affect down the road. It means keeping friction and inconveniences in the game. It means finding friends and forming groups with strangers and being social!! Because WoWs social aspects have always been the pillar of the game and over the years it has slowly been chiseled away at with changes that allow you play alone. Since the day I started working on the Riverglades I have lived by three sayings. "Convenience is the death of the journey." "If you're making a game for everyone then you're making it for no one." "Every change we make incurs a debt to the authenticity of the game and sooner or later that debt will be paid." These are my core beliefs and I had a specific group of people I was targeting with my work. These beliefs cannot be shaken and I will try to hold the line against anything that goes against them and will continue to pester the team about things that feel out of place. That being said, my hope is that Forever will pull in as many people as possible, whether you are a retail gamer, a classic gamer, someone who hasn't played in years, or even a new player. I hope you can all remember what made this game so special in the first place and that starts with understanding why we are so passionate about keeping it authentic.

I wanna shout out the #FFXIV reddit and twitter community! Some of you watched my stream for two weeks straight with ads cranked to max during the ultimate prog while I was 9th man. I know it wasnt a "normal" stream but you guys pulled through. I cant thank you guys enough 🙏