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The MLBPA is walking into a trap they set for themselves 32 years ago. A salary cap is almost certainly guaranteed at this point
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In 1994, the owners claimed a good-faith impasse and in turn implemented their own CBA. In August of that year, the players union went on strike and challenged this ruling in court. The judge (Sonia Sotomayor) ruled in March '95 in favor of the union, stating that it was in fact the owners who were bargaining in bad-faith and reinstated the old CBA for 1 year. A new deal was eventually reached in 1996 which included the newly introduced luxury tax
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The crux of the case was this...The players refused any hard salary cap but offered an alternate economic framework centered around a luxury tax and an overhaul of the industry's financial layout. In their counterproposals to the team owners, the MLBPA offered the following specific concessions:
- A Luxury Tax
- Expanded revenue sharing
- Maintaining the Status Quo Over Aggressive Gains
Because the players had consistently stayed at the negotiating table and offered counterproposals (like the luxury tax, rev sharing, etc), they were legally recognized as bargaining in good faith. The owners, however, were not. They proposed a salary cap and a reduction in the players' share of revenues to curb rising player salaries, while eliminating salary arbitration and altering free agency. And then unilaterally implemented it after the claimed impasse
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Fast forward 32 years...which side is consistently coming to the table with proposals that include multiple concessions such as increased minimums, reduced club control time, and increasingly higher floors?
In the legal realm have judges stayed pro labor as they were in the 90s or swung more pro business?
An impasse will be called, the players will strike and then they will lose in court. The owners are just following the same playbook the players used 32 years ago
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Who’s bargaining in bad faith?
The MLBPA may be walking into a trap that was set 32 years ago.
In 1994, the owners declared an impasse, unilaterally implemented a salary cap and eliminated key player rights.
The players took them to court. The ruling changed everything… 🧵
This is what sports fans have become. Absolute pansies
Akin to a toddler kicking and screaming cause he got a red popsicle instead of a blue one
How far we have fallen as a society. Dudes just absolutely castrated all over, it's not just Pirates fans
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😆😆😆 $33 is price gouging. What, mommy stop bank rolling you, Jim?
Now do average price. What's the cost for 1st deck comparatively?
They're taking the quality over quantity route since their market has such low volume thanks to the malcontents
Once again, a weekday day game and the Pirates are the 2nd highest "get-in" price behind only the Dodgers.
In fact, they are over 100% more expensive than eight of the 14 other games being played throughout MLB today.
Pittsburghers are being price gouged. Plain and simple.
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Raising the floor does 2 things. 1) discourages the riff raff and 2) encourages more of the lower bowl ticket sales. Without such a wide gap between the two, ppl are more willing to upgrade. It's a quality over quantity argument. Tried doing quantity and it hasn't worked so why not try the other. And if you can keep out the blubbering idiots that ruin the experience by booing and crying and being generally soft for real baseball fans and kids, double win
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Finally, the team's getting creative to avoid the constant smear campaigns
You think maybe, Noah, this is in response to 30 years of abuse by the local media? But no, sure, point fingers right at them as per usual
Zero disrespect to Jason, but it’s absolute nonsense the team went out of its way to control the narrative here. Carmen was set to speak with reporters tomorrow. The team ensured he spoke with their own writer before hand. That’s wrong. Full stop. Period.
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Absolutely he was disappointed about the move, but this was largely much to do about nothing
Also out of these 2, who you starting? 51% hard hit rate and a .285 xBA is a disaster waiting to happen
And no way am I bringing Walks McGee in with anyone on base
Carmen Mlodzinski is off the restricted list and ready to embrace his new role. Talked to the Pirates pitcher today about everything: mlb.com/news/pirates-carmen-…
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The agent mouth pieces in full force
Why don't they touch on the fact that the BASELINE proposed cap puts significantly more money in players pockets in totality? Somehow that's bad for all players?
The @MLBPA is a joke only serving agents and the top 5% of who they represent
The MLBPA's response, in part, to today's proposal: "The owners responded today with a demand for a salary cap system, something generations of players have fought against. The last time the owners made such an explicit push for a cap—over 30 years ago—it led to the longest work stoppage in MLB history. For generations, our members have fought against cap systems because they harm players at all levels, erode or eliminate contractual guarantees, pit player against player, lead to more work stoppages, not less, and get worse for players over time. Caps don’t lower ticket prices for fans, eliminate tanking or ensure teams are run with equal competence. They suffocate competition by offering owners an all-purpose excuse for inaction and mediocrity."
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We have actual numbers now
245 cap and 171 floor (seems my estimates were pretty spot on, conservatively)
And that's the owners FIRST offer
Again, the cap/floor system is PRO players! Don't let the agent mouth pieces and big market easy button hoarders tell you any different
So let's actually do the math on this "supress salary" argument
The current payroll of all teams combined is 5,430M
The proposed cap and floor is $160M - $240M
Assuming everyone above lowers to 240 and all below raise to 160, the total would become 5,700M!! Almost 300M more in payout, even including the current hyper inflated Dodgers total coming down 150+!
So who's suppressing whose salary, Chris Bassitt and "executive subcommittee"? The top 5% of PLAYERS are suppressing salary for the other 95%!
And for what?! For a small elite's super privilege. That's the ACTUAL purpose of a union, to AVOID that. The fans want it, the owners want it, most players want it (remember executive subcommittee voted 0-8 against last CBA, while the players rep group voted 20-8), but the super douche subcommittee wants to gaslight us into being the victim
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The BASE proposal would put $40M dollars into players pockets
Could easily double that in negotiations AND get your super 2 and club control asks
But sure, the @MLBPA is looking out for all their members 🙄
MLB proposed a hard salary cap of $245.3 million and a salary floor of $171.2 million for 2027 as part of the next CBA, per @JesseRogersESPN
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Another ho hum day for Seth Hernandez! He now has the following statline in Low A
12 IP, 3 H, 3 BB, 1 ER, 23 Ks
Fastball is sitting 99-100 and it's not even his best pitch!
The Pirates have the best two 19 year old baseball players on the planet in the org
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What, maybe one or two more starts before Greensboro for Seth Hernandez? How high will he get this year?
7 innings pitched, 15 Ks, 1 BB, 0.57 WHIP
Pure domination
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