
Friendship | FOCG | STARKS | AI | Quantum Contributing @starkwareltd @LootRealms @daydreamsagents views are my own
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Rebuilding @LootRealms, from August to the playtest
Today the Realms playtest opens on play.realms.party, with Frontier and Blitz together.
Time to dive a bit into the last couple months, and shine some light about the work behind the scenes.
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Introducing: Bramble
A self-custody wallet native to Starknet, designed to use everything the network can do.
Swap, store and shield your crypto in a wallet only you control.
Built by Starknet Foundation.
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today, i got a fully spec-compliant falcon-512 account to transact on starknet mainnet for $0.027.
tx: voyager.online/tx/0x2631f4a7…
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Ethereum's ZK L2s in the Age of Quantum, Privacy and AI
Since the 1st of September, $ETH is down 1.4%.
Over the same stretch, $STRK is up 173%, $ZK 81% and $AZTEC 50%.
For a sector that mostly makes headlines with shutdowns these days, that's quite the outlier. Blast and Abstract are shutting down. Polygon switched off its own zkEVM sequencer on the 1st of July, Zero Network wound down over the summer, and Mint closes withdrawals on the 20th of October.
So what do Starknet, zkSync and Aztec have that most other L2s don't?
Exposure to the two narratives gaining the most steam right now: privacy and quantum, with AI accelerating both.
What makes it interesting is that all three are ZK rollups from the same tech family, yet they're heading in very different directions:
- @Starknet is going all in on quantum resistance, to the point of asking its stakers whether it should leave Ethereum, while adding compliant privacy to a public chain.
- @zksync is focused on institutions, building private chains for banks, and stays fairly quiet on quantum dates so far.
- @aztecnetwork has the most ambitious privacy of the three and the most conservative published quantum plan, with a full migration targeted for the end of 2030.
Quick context if you missed the last two weeks:
On the 7th of October, @drakefjustin warned that AI-driven math might break the signatures securing our wallets before a quantum computer ever does, "in the worst case in months not years". While most cryptographers pushed back, the debate fueled the attention the AI & quantum threat vectors get, and accelerated the corresponding narratives.
Partly because the cost of a quantum attack keeps falling. In March, Google estimated a break of the curve behind Bitcoin and Ethereum keys at under 1,200 logical qubits. A public contest of AI coding agents (ECDSA(.)fail) halved that estimate within about two months. And on the 16th of October, @AnthropicAI showed Claude designing a circuit for the core step of that attack with 17x fewer gates, at the cost of only 12% more qubits.
No quantum hardware ran and nothing got broken yet tho.
However, the timelines everyone plans around just got significantly shorter.
For ZK L2s that boils down to two questions:
- Quantum: how much of your cryptography can you swap out, and who controls that swap?
- Privacy: who can see your data, today and in 2035?
And here's where it gets more nuanced and subtle: quantum risk is really three different risks:
- Proof forgery: a quantum computer fakes a validity proof. Only possible once that machine exists, and nothing that happened before is affected.
- Key theft: exposed public keys get cracked. Fixable with new signature schemes and a migration.
- Harvest now, decrypt later: someone stores encrypted data published today and decrypts it once the machine exists. This one works retroactively, so for anything private you put on chain, the clock is already running.
That third risk matters most here, because it’s the only one where today’s data is already exposed to a future quantum computer. And once you factor it in properly, the chain with the strongest quantum story isn’t automatically the one that best protects your data.
But let's dig into the deeper comparison:
1) @Starknet
- Proofs: hash-based end to end
- Privacy: STRK20, opt-in, live since June
- PQ Target: "first fully quantum-resistant network" by 2027
Starknet has the strongest proof story of the three. Its STARK proofs rely on nothing but hash functions, a Falcon-512 account already sent a mainnet tx for $0.027, and a phone signed a testnet tx with an ML-DSA key without needing a hard fork. Still, the team itself says Starknet isn't quantum-safe yet, since default accounts use elliptic-curve signatures and the chain depends on Ethereum's blobs for data. That dependency is what the current vote is about. It's non-binding and a yes only kicks off research, but 99.95% of votes so far are in favour. Where Starknet gets weaker is privacy. STRK20 stores encrypted notes on chain using elliptic curves, and every user's viewing key is encrypted to one master auditor key, held in an enclave by Financial Privacy Inc and backed by a 3 of 4 StarkWare/FPI multisig. For a regulator, that works as intended. For a future quantum computer, @l2beat rates it exposed: break the curve, derive the auditor key from its public key, and you're able to read everyone's onchain history. On top of that, Starknet's post-quantum signatures are lattice-based, the family @VitalikButerin flagged as the new risk area in the age of AI. Account abstraction means it can switch again if needed tho.
2) @zksync
- Proofs: hash-based inside, BN254 wrapper on Ethereum
- Privacy: Prividium, permissioned
- PQ Target: no specific date
zkSync hasn't put a date on going post-quantum. Its focus right now is institutions. Prividium gives each one its own private chain, where the data stays in the bank's own infrastructure and only proofs get posted to Ethereum. As it happens, that design lines up well with the checklist Vitalik laid out on the 7th of October, and @gluk64 was quick to point it out two days later. Since nothing encrypted ever gets published, there is nothing to harvest, which makes it the cleanest answer to harvest now, decrypt later of the three. The tradeoff is who you're private from: the public, yes, the operator, no. It's basically a private database with public proofs of correctness, which is exactly what a bank wants. The other gap is the wrapper. zkSync's big hash-based proof gets compressed into a small one so Ethereum can verify it cheaply, and that small proof relies on BN254 elliptic-curve pairings, the part a quantum computer breaks. That's where Airbender Prime comes in. Launched on the 13th of October, zkSync's new prover proved 99% of 7,200 consecutive mainnet blocks in under 10 seconds on a single RTX PRO 6000 GPU, a.k.a. real-time proving of Ethereum on hardware that fits under a desk (zkSync's own benchmark tho, not independently replicated yet). Vitalik congratulated the team two days later and called the battle for speed "definitively won". Prime also comes with a Keccak path for verifying proofs on Ethereum, which would remove the BN254 wrapper, but that part is announced rather than shipped, with no specific date attached yet.
3) @aztecnetwork
- Proofs: pairing-based, generated on your device
- Privacy: private by default, programmable
- PQ Target: full post-quantum migration by end of 2030
Aztec is the only one of the three running private smart contracts on a public network, with proofs generated on your own laptop or phone (2.5 seconds for a private transfer on a laptop on V5). That same design is why it's the slowest on quantum. Its prover has to run on a phone, recurse quickly and keep proofs small, and according to Aztec no post-quantum proof system manages all three today, with the fast ones producing proofs of around 300KB. So the plan is to pick first and migrate later: a signature scheme by March 2027, encryption by July 2027, the proving system by November 2027, and a full migration by the end of 2030. On harvest now, decrypt later, it comes down to the app. Keys are hashed and notes can be delivered offchain, but an app that posts EC-encrypted notes on chain is still exposed (L2BEAT flags zk(.)money for exactly that). @Zac_Aztec argues that rushed cryptography and implementation bugs are the bigger risk right now, and Aztec has a case in point: its own AI audit harness caught a critical soundness bug in V5 that months of human audits had missed.
Put side by side, the chain with the best proofs right now has the weakest privacy story against a quantum adversary. The institutional chain has the cleanest one. And for Aztec, it depends on what each app decides to publish.
Where does AI come in?
So far, mostly on the attack side, and mainly in three ways:
- It makes quantum attacks cheaper: ECDSA(.)fail matched Google's estimate within 8 hours and beat it in about 3 days, and Claude's 17x gate reduction came out of a single 53-hour run.
- It finds cracks in structured math: Claude cut the cost of recovering a key for HAWK, a lattice-based signature scheme, from 2^64 to 2^38 operations, and NIST withdrew it.
- It finds the bugs humans miss, as Aztec's V5 showed.
To keep it in perspective tho: no AI-assisted break of ECDSA has been published, and Drake's "months not years" was a worst case scenario voiced as a personal opinion.
The defences all three are converging on look similar: hash-based cryptography wherever possible, formal verification, and crypto agility, a.k.a. being able to swap your signature scheme without forking the chain or changing anyone's address.
It's also where Vitalik says the focus has to go on the zkEVM front now that speed is solved: formally verifying that a zkEVM actually matches the Ethereum spec, a hard cap on prover cost relative to the gas in a block, and the security of the proof system itself. With AI getting this good at finding bugs, that list matters more than yet another speed benchmark.
The market's reaction to the recent moves/announcements by these three players and their above-outlined approaches was remarkably positive:
At its peak on the 12th of October, STRK was trading at more than 4.7x its price from the 1st of September, on $741M of daily volume. ZK added another 23% and AZTEC 20% since Drake's warning on the 7th of October, while ETH lost 10% over the same days.
Since then, STRK has given back 42% from that peak tho, and part of the pressure sits in the supply schedule. Around 127M STRK unlocked on the 15th, roughly 1.7% of circulating supply, landing on the same day the L1 vote opened. ZK's monthly unlock of roughly 173M, about 1.6% of circulating supply, lands today as well. And for AZTEC, the genesis sequencer unlock follows on the 13th of November, with team and investor cliffs in February 2027.
So the narrative got priced on attention and hype within weeks, while the actual migrations run on timelines measured in years and supply dynamics at play that you should always keep in mind too.
My take:
None of the three is quantum-safe today, and all three admit to that. Narrative-wise, with a potential move to a fully quantum-resistant L1, or generally if you care about proofs, Starknet is clearly ahead.
If you care about privacy that still holds up in 2035 tho, the institutionally-focused approach of publishing nothing (zkSync) or keeping notes offchain (an option on Aztec) beats encrypting the data fully onchain.
But in conclusion, it's definitely worth keeping all three on your radar for now imo.
What I'm watching next here (aside from the charts kek)?
@gluk64's Money20/20 keynote on the 21st of October (teased as "Who's in control?"), the Starknet vote result on the 22nd re L1 migration, the Aztec V6 vote, and zkSync's Airbender Prime Keccak verifier actually going live.
NFA tho. DYOR.
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Brother Lyskey 🥷@LyskeyOct 16
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No major chains is post-quantum secure today.
Starknet as a L1 would be the first one.
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trying to follow the logic here
google keeps making progress on quantum computing
does that mean someone can crack my wallet today?
no
could a powerful enough quantum computer break the signatures protecting it?
yes
can we prepare for that?
yes
does that involve changing things across wallets, protocols and the chain itself?
quite a few things, yes
can we do all that the night before?
probably wouldnt recommend it
do we know when that night is?
no
so the people already doing the work are being sensible?
apparently theyre just pushing a narrative...
why?
because theyre too early
good.
would be a weird fucking thing to be late to!
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BREAKING: Google announces a major breakthrough in quantum computing, achieving 99.99% accuracy in a key quantum operation.
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i view it as the new and true ultrasound money.
market gap -> leads tech -> leads adoption -> leads narrative -> leads price
cryptography wise they are perfect. its a coincidence but my thesis in academia back then was re: encryption systems, in my opinion what they are doing is genuinely elegant
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Brother Lyskey 🥷@LyskeyOct 15
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Everything Vitalik is pushing for Ethereum's future, StarkWare has been building for years.
→ STARK-based cryptography? Pioneered by StarkWare's founders in 2018.
→ A ZK-native execution environment? Cairo.
→ Native account abstraction? Already here.
→ Formal verification? We've been investing in it for years.
StarkWare has formally verified critical parts of Stone, CairoZero, and Sierra using Lean, with ongoing work on S-two.
We also recently open-sourced 230+ formally proven theorems for the STRK20 privacy pool.
Where Ethereum is heading is very much where Starknet already is today.
So yeah, the next logical step for us is really to transition to our own independent L1, giving us full control over our security roadmap instead of waiting for Ethereum's upgrades.
You can vote on it btw 👇
governance.starknet.io/#/s:s…
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vitalik.eth@VitalikButerinOct 15🇺🇸
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Big congratulations to the @zksync airbender team for this milestone.
At this point, I consider the battle for speed to be definitively won, and the top priority for zkEVMs should shift fully to security.
To me that means formally verifying
(i) equivalence of the arithmetization to the ethereum spec
(ii) a hard maximum bound on (prover cost) / (amount of gas in block)
(iii) security of the proof system itself
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$400m worth of crypto at a private invite only pumpfun party (but you wouldn’t know it)
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Algorand army angry, so let me break down why their rekeying argument doesn’t overturn the 7/8 on this.
Cryptographic agility is the ability to adapt cryptography while preserving security and ongoing operations. Dependence on consensus upgrades limits that agility by making change contingent on coordination and agreement across the network.
The community note misses the comparison’s actual criterion: introducing your own signature-verification code without a network upgrade.
Rekeying preserves your address and assets and lets you change what authorises your account. It doesn’t, by itself, add support for a new signature scheme. LogicSig is a possible route, and Algorand has already demonstrated Falcon transactions using it. But that example uses a verifier built into the network.
The review didn’t establish a production mainnet implementation of an independently implemented verifier meeting the requirement without a new opcode or consensus change.
Show that implementation and there’s a correction to make. “Rekeying since 2020” doesn’t answer the criterion.
TLDR:
Starknet can change an upgradeable account’s signature verifier without upgrading the network. Algorand currently cannot (source: dev.algorand.co/concepts/acc…) without a new opcode or network upgrade.
Most chains have no quantum plan except "move your funds."
On Starknet, you just upgrade. Same address, new cryptography. That’s what crypto agility actually looks like.
We compared 10 networks. Here’s how they stack up:
Readers added context they thought people might want to know
Algorand has supported rekeying since 2020, enabling users to change an account's spending keys (including migration to post-quantum signatures) while keeping the same public address and without moving assets.
dev.algorand.co/concepts/accou…
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1/ Ethereum has a roadmap for post-quantum security, targeting core infrastructure by 2029.
But how ready is it for the transition? We assessed its cryptographic agility across 8 criteria.
It passes only 3/8 🧵
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Europol explicitly cites StarkWare in its report on quantum threats to crypto.
It discusses account abstraction + ZK-STARKs as tools to reduce wallets’ exposure to quantum attacks.
And its message to the industry is clear: act now and accelerate the transition to post-quantum security.
That’s exactly the path we’re taking.
We’ve been pioneering STARKs since 2018. Now we’re working to complete Starknet’s transition to full post-quantum security, with 2027 as our target.
One by one, our choices are being validated inside and outside the crypto industry.
Why would @Starknet inflate their token and pay for their own security?
The biggest issue is not the cost it is bootstrapping a diversified network of operators.
- Starknet has 0.25 Billion dollars staked
- 137 live validators
- 65,000 stakers
Starknet is the only layer 2 with the required level of decentralisation to execute this path.
Starknet says they are "Activity considering becoming an L1", because Ethereum might not being ready for Q-Day
@TrustlessState is skeptical: "okay guys... @Starknet been posturing about leaving Ethereum as long as I can remember 🤣"
Do you think Starknet will actually do it this time?
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1/ The last week in the pack.
Infra, apps, metrics… here’s your Starknet weekly recap 🧵
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Agents won’t panic about their seed phrase getting cracked:
Quantum resistant agentic commerce is coming to @Starknet
Starknet native Taskmarket will allow agents to work together trustlessly and quantum safe.
$Dreams already available across the ecosystem btw.
Your reminder that $dreams trades on Starknet
The @daydreamsagents Taskmarket is coming to Starknet natively.
Yes, quantum resistant Taskmarket for the next trillion Tasks by agents.
Join the swarm at Taskmarket.dev
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Actually, higher on both counts.
$587m TVS and ~$11k in 24-hour fees, ahead of Aptos, Avalanche, TON and Optimism.
But this isn’t about immediate fundamentals. It’s about cryptographic agility and the ability to be programmable, private and durable infra for a post-quantum world.
Starknet can be that infra as early as next year.

























