Tips before trying to argue with a flat earther: 1. No one believes in flying space Frisbees. (yes, that includes flat earthers). 2. Foucault's Pendulum is clearly understood and already inclusive in our position that earth is stationary. (manually started) (battery operated) (cranes dont swing) (other pendulums dont swing) 3. Coriolis effect is clearly understood and already inclusive in our position that earth is stationary. (clockwise and anticlockwise can be found in any river and in any house) 4. Yes. The sun WONT be always visible on a flat earth model. (vanishing point) 5. Yes. You cant see forever on a flat earth. Model. (vanishing point) (air is fluid) 6. Falling things are proven. Gravity is not. 7. There are no planets, stars, black holes, and space in the FE model. 8. Yes. We do not have A model. Neither do you. You have many different models covering different aspects. So do we. 9. Yes. We understand the concepts of Lunar and Solar eclipses very well. Probably better than you. (hint: it is not a shadow) 10. Yes. Seasons are very well accommodated on our model. (Perhaps even better than in yours.) 11. Yes. The southern stars and Polaris from Australia is already taken into account in the FE model. (Azimuthal Dome Grid of Visibility) 12. No one has ever seen or demonstrated curvature. (no. Ships do not dissappear over the horizon) (no. you cannot see curvature from your plane trip, even IF the windows were not curved) 13. Satelites and GPS systems are already fully understood and included in the FE model. (sateloons and 1500ft antennas, undersea cables) 14. No. You cannot see planets from your telescope. No one has. No one can. (wandering stars and luminaries). 15. No. No one and nothing has ever left the atmosphere. (Rockets land in the Bermuda) 16. No. ISS is not in space. (Repurposed LED lined stealth bombers.) 17. No. No one is allowed at Antarctica (or below the 60 degree latitude). Battleship Excessive force military protected. There are no visitor cruises to be booked online. (Antarctic Treaty) 18. No. There is no 24hr midnight sun. (both vids proven to be fraudulent.) 19. Yes. They would lie, all of them. as it is their sole purpose to lie. To hide the ONE truth. They would give their lives for the cause. The rest dont know that they lie. 20. Yes. It does affect your lives. It affects EVERY aspect of EVERYONE'S life, every day. Nothing remains unaffected by this truth \ lie. We dont guess. We dont wish-full think. We dont hope.