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I'm going to bet this person has no adult children.
"There are no animals in heaven.
Christmas, Easter, and birthdays are pagan.
God does not love everyone.
Always tell your children the hard truths. They'll thank you some day."
"I'm done castings pearls before swine. You man-centered Pelagians always label people and then throw insults to dodge giving any substantive response."
Doctrinal Possum retweeted
I just listened to these two Calvinists defending @gui_bignon_theo against @DineshDSouza. Here is a summary of their answer and my rebuttal:
youtube.com/live/4IsHtJd5XGc…
1) Their answer to “Does God make you do it” (regarding sin):
No. God does not coerce or force you to sin against your will. You do the sinful act because you want to, according to your own desires. God determines the desires, brain states, circumstances, and the act itself, but because you willingly act on those desires, the act is yours and you remain fully responsible. God has righteous intent behind what He determines, so He is not the moral author of the sin. The distinction is between ultimate determination (with good purposes) and proximate willing of the evil (by the creature).
I believe that is a fair representation of their answer. Tell me if you disagree. 🤷♂️
2) Why this answer is insufficient within the compatibilistic framework:
Compatibilism reduces “freedom” to acting according to one’s strongest desires without external coercion. Once God exhaustively determines the desires themselves (the internal states that produce the choice), the “I wanted to” is fully determined by God’s decree. There are no alternative possibillities; the outcome could not have been otherwise and the source of the evil desire is the divine decree.
The distinction between “God makes you do it” and “God determines your desires so that you freely do it” collapses into a verbal distinction. It’s semantics. God still originates the sinful inclination and ensures the act by controlling the very will that “chooses” it. This leaves the creature as the proximate instrument of a predetermined outcome rather than the true origin of the sin, which fails to preserve genuine secondary causation or the force of texts such as 1 John 2:16 and James 1:13–14 that locate the source of temptation and sin in the world or the creature’s own desires, not in a divine causal decree. The framework therefore does not escape the implication that God is the ultimate source of the sinful act it seeks to avoid.
Doctrinal Possum retweeted
A lot of division between Calvinists/Arminians/Provisionists can be laid at the feet of teachers in past decades who told their congregation that those who disagree with us worship their own <fill in the blank> or some other disingenuous take.
"If Christ on the cross did exactly for Judas what He did for us and Judas went to Hell, then what makes you think that we won't either?"
This they willfully forget:
"In Him"
Forgiveness of sin
Election
Sealed by the HS
Every blessing
An inheritance
Created for good works
This happens with theology, too. "If they understood my theological position, they would accept it."
They can't fathom that someone could understand it and still reject it.
I think Gerwig genuinely loves Narnia and thinks she is honoring Lewis's vision.
It's just that progressives are so fully convinced of their own worldview that they believe it IS honoring the legacy of Lewis to filter it through their universalist, watered down version of faith.
"If he were alive today, he would have become a liberal like me, so I am lovingly participating in his legacy by updating it."
The sincere, nice-person, aesthetically excellent kind of subversion is the most effective. People will love the films and then begin to associate Aslan and Lewis with the very Christianity-and-water type of religion he actually was fighting hard against.
youtu.be/gHevSz8Z_KM?si=F8eQ…
Me: Most of these person's posts seem driven by the flesh and make me want to respond in the flesh. I'm going to block them so I'm not tempted to respond.
My moots: Here, have a screenshot from them.
Me: 😭
“Half the harm that is done in this world is due to people who want to feel important… they justify it because they are absorbed in the endless struggle to think well of themselves.”
-T. S. Elliot
Doctrinal Possum retweeted
Salvation is of the Lord (Jonah 2:9), but Jonah cried out to God for salvation (2:2, 2:7) and idolaters forsake the mercy that could be theirs (2:8). The Ninevites understood that repentance does not obligate God to forgive: Who knows? God may turn and relent and turn from his fierce anger (3:9). Believers would perish unless God chooses to save them. Salvation is of the Lord.
It blows my mind that people have such contempt for those of us who believe salvation is of the Lord.
We believe He chose us before the foundation of the world, has mercy on whom He wills, Christ laid down His life for His sheep, the Spirit gives life to the spiritually dead, faith is a gift of God, all that the Father gives to Christ will come to Him, and He who began a good work in us will bring it to completion.
They can’t stand that God does all that He pleases, declares the end from the beginning, and works all things according to the counsel of His will. They need something to boast in themselves, even if it’s as simple as them saying “I chose to believe!”
They try to protect God from what He’s revealed about Himself while making up a god they think should do things a certain way.
Let me remind you.. His ways are not our ways. All the inhabitants of the earth are counted as nothing before Him, and none can stay His hand or say to Him, “What have you done?”.
Salvation is of the Lord. He gets all the glory. God doesn’t share the spotlight with anyone
What anthropomorphic, accommodative, or analogical language cannot do is express the opposite of what it is meant to illustrate. A God who says “Now I know” is not telling us that he knew all along, nor should “the finger of God wrote” cause us to think he did not actually write.
God’s use of Father is anthropomorphic language. God is neither procreator nor male in the sense that we understand those words. However, the language of fatherhood illustrates that he is generative of new life, we are his offspring, and he possesses paternal authority over us.
Even though I strongly disagree with his conclusion, I appreciate how this brother phrased it. Not as an accusation, but as a challenge. And with 1689 in bio, no less! 😜
You know JW is getting cooked for doing this when Rich has to start gaslighting people to cover for him.
