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632- 🙏 ENG | Jiddu Krishnamurti 💛PUBLICATION : Version Française aprĂšs la Version Anglaise💛 |❖ For OPTIMAL UNDERSTANDING Read the whole text with ATTENTION ❖| Public Talk - Life Ahead/Face Ă  la vie ☀ LIFE ☀ 17 PEACE We have been examining the various factors that bring about deteriorate in our lives, in our activities, in our thoughts; and we have seen that conflict is one of the major factors of this deterioration. And is not peace also, as it is generally understood, a destructive factor? Can peace be brought about by the mind? If we have peace through the mind, does not that also lead to corruption, deterioration? If we are not very alert and observant, that word 'peace' becomes like a narrow window through which we look at the world and try to understand it. Through a narrow window we can see only part of the sky, and not the whole vastness, the magnificence of it. THERE IS NO POSSIBILITY OF HAVING PEACE BY MERELY PURSUING PEACE, WHICH IS INEVITABLY A PROCESS OF THE MIND. IT MAY BE A LITTLE DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND THIS, BUT I SHALL TRY TO MAKE IT AS SIMPLE AND CLEAR AS I CAN. IF WE CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE PEACEFUL, THEN PERHAPS WE SHALL UNDERSTAND THE REAL SIGNIFICANCE OF LOVE. We think that peace is something to be achieved through the mind, through reason; but is it? Can peace ever come about through any quieting through any control or domination of thought? We all want peace; and for most of us, peace means to be left alone, not to be disturbed or interfered with, so we build a wall around our own mind, a wall of ideas. It is very important for you to understand this, for as you grow older you will be faced with the problems of war and peace. Is peace something to be pursued, caught and tamed by the mind? What most of us call peace is a process of stagnation, a slow decay. We think we shall find peace by clinging to a set of ideas, by inwardly building a wall of security, safety, a wall of habits, beliefs; we think that peace is a matter of pursuing a principle, of cultivating a particular tendency, a particular fancy, a particular wish. We want to live without disturbance, so we find some corner of the universe, or of our own being, into which we crawl, and we live in the darkness of self-enclosure. That is what most of us seek in our relationship with the husband, with the wife, with parents, with friends. UNCONSCIOUSLY WE WANT PEACE AT ANY PRICE, AND SO WE PURSUE IT. BUT CAN THE MIND EVER FIND PEACE? IS NOT THE MIND ITSELF A SOURCE OF DISTURBANCE? THE MIND CAN ONLY GATHER, ACCUMULATE, DENY, ASSERT, REMEMBER, PURSUE. ―☀― TEXT-IMAGE THE MIND - L’ESPRIT PEACE - LA PAIX Peace is absolutely essential, because without peace we cannot live creatively. But is peace something to be realized through the struggles, the denials, the sacrifices of the mind? Do you understand what I am talking about? We may be discontented while we are young, but as we grow older, unless we are very wise and watchful, that discontent will be canalized into some form of peaceful resignation to life. The mind is everlastingly seeking a secluded habit, belief, desire, something in which it can live and be at peace with the world. But the mind cannot find peace, because it can think only in terms of time, in terms of the past, the present and the future: what it has been, what it is, and what it will be. It is constantly condemning, judging, weighing, comparing, pursuing its own vanities, its own habits, beliefs; and such a mind can never be peaceful. It can delude itself into a state which it calls peace; but that is not peace. The mind can mesmerize itself by the repetition of words and phrases, by following somebody, or by accumulating knowledge; but it is not peaceful, because such a mind is itself the centre of disturbance, it is by its very nature the essence of time. So the mind with which we think, with which we calculate, with which we contrive and compare, is incapable of finding peace. Peace is not the outcome of reason; and yet, as you will see if you observe them, the organized religions are caught up in this pursuit of peace through the mind. Real peace is as creative and as pure as war is destructive; and to find that peace, one must understand beauty. That is why it is important, while we are very young, to have beauty about us - the beauty of buildings that have proper proportions, the beauty of cleanliness, of quiet talk among the elders. In understanding what beauty is, we shall know love, for the understanding of beauty is the peace of the heart. Peace is of the heart, not of the mind. To know peace you have to find out what beauty is. The way you talk, the words you use, the gestures you make - these things matter very much, for through them you will discover the refinement of your own heart. ☀More to come ☀ STAY TUNED ☀ đŸ•Šïž 🙏Sadhu ! Sadhu ! Sadhu ! 🙏 đŸ•ŠïžAmong others it is used to express shared joy, moral approval, and spiritual agreement. Also means « excellent, well done, or it is good.» - «Amen or Hallelujah» J.K. Krishnamurti |❖ Mindfulness ‱ Self Mastery ‱ Spirituality ‱ Mental Clarity ‱ Attachment Free ❖| ―🙏― 📖 VERSION FRANÇAISE 📖 đŸ•ŠïžOn LinkedIn « New Post » 632- 🙏FR | Jiddu Krishnamurti |❖ Pour une COMPRÉHENSION OPTIMALE, LIRE avec ATTENTION le texte au complet « du DĂ©but Ă  la Fin » ❖| Causerie - Face Ă  la vie ☀ La vie ☀ 17 LA PAIX
 Nous avons parlĂ© de la dĂ©tĂ©rioration de la condition humaine et nous avons vu que la peur en est une des principales causes. Nous avons examinĂ© plusieurs causes de la dĂ©tĂ©rioration de nos vies, de nos activitĂ©s, de nos pensĂ©es, et nous avons vu qu'une des principales d'entre elles est notre Ă©tat permanent de conflit. Mais la paix, telle qu'on l'envisage habituellement, n'est-elle pas aussi un facteur de destruction? Car peut-elle ĂȘtre instaurĂ©e par la pensĂ©e? Une paix produite par l'esprit ne conduit-elle pas Ă  une corruption, Ă  une dĂ©tĂ©rioration? Si nous n'y prenons garde, le mot « paix » devient semblable Ă  une fenĂȘtre Ă©troite Ă  travers laquelle nous regarderions le monde et essayerions de le comprendre; mais nous ne verrions alors qu'une partie du ciel, non toute son ampleur et sa magnificence. IL N'Y A AUCUNE POSSIBILITÉ D'OBTENIR LA PAIX SI ON LA POURSUIT, CAR CETTE POURSUITE EST INÉVITABLEMENT UN PROCESSUS DE LA PENSÉE. CE QUE J'AI À DIRE EST PEUT-ÊTRE UN PEU DIFFICILE, MAIS J'ESSAYERAI D'ÊTRE AUSSI SIMPLE ET CLAIR QUE POSSIBLE. SI NOUS POUVIONS COMPRENDRE CE QUE VEUT DIRE ÊTRE RÉELLEMENT PAISIBLE, PEUT-ÊTRE SAURIONS-NOUS CE QU'EST LE VRAI SENS DE L'AMOUR. On pense que la paix s'obtient par la raison, par un travail de l'esprit. Mais peut-elle jamais ĂȘtre le rĂ©sultat d'une pensĂ©e qui cherche Ă  s'affirmer? Nous voulons tous la paix, et pour beaucoup d'entre nous cela veut dire que nous voulons qu'on nous laisse tranquilles, qu'on ne nous dĂ©range pas, et nous construisons dans ce but un mur autour de notre esprit, un mur d'idĂ©es. Il est trĂšs important que vous compreniez cette question, car lorsque vous serez plus ĂągĂ©s, vous aurez Ă  faire face au problĂšme de la guerre et de la paix. La paix peut-elle ĂȘtre poursuivie, saisie et apprivoisĂ©e par l'esprit? Ce que la plupart d'entre nous appellent paix est un processus de stagnation, une dĂ©composition lente. Nous pensons trouver la paix en nous accrochant Ă  un systĂšme idĂ©ologique, en construisant, pour notre sĂ©curitĂ© intĂ©rieure, des murs d'habitudes et de croyances. Nous pensons que la paix se trouve dans des principes, qu'il s'agit de cultiver certaines tendances, certains dĂ©sirs. Nous voulons vivre sans ĂȘtre troublĂ©s, nous voudrions trouver un coin dans l'univers, ou en nous-mĂȘmes, Ă  l'intĂ©rieur duquel nous insĂ©rer pour vivre dans nos propres tĂ©nĂšbres. C'est ce que cherchent la plupart des personnes dans leurs rapports avec leurs familles, avec leurs amis. INCONSCIEMMENT ELLES VEULENT LA PAIX À TOUT PRIX ET ELLES LA POURSUIVENT. MAIS L'ESPRIT PEUT-IL JAMAIS TROUVER LA PAIX? N'EST-IL PAS LUI-MÊME L'ORIGINE DE SON PROPRE DÉSORDRE? IL NE PEUT QU'AMASSER, ACCUMULER, DÉNIER, AFFIRMER, SE SOUVENIR, POURSUIVRE. đŸ’„đŸ’„đŸ’„ TEXTE-IMAGE L’ESPRIT – THE MIND LA PAIX - PEACE La paix est absolument essentielle, car sans elle on ne peut vivre d'une façon crĂ©atrice, mais peut-on l'obtenir par des luttes, par des contraintes, par des sacrifices? Comprenez-vous ce dont je parle? On peut ĂȘtre insatisfait Ă©tant jeune, mais plus tard, Ă  moins qu'on ait de la sagesse et qu'on soit sur le qui-vive, ce mĂ©contentement est canalisĂ© sous la forme d'une paisible rĂ©signation. L'esprit est indĂ©finiment Ă  la recherche d'un enclos fait d'habitudes, de croyances, de dĂ©sirs, Ă  l'intĂ©rieur duquel il veut vivre en paix avec le monde. Mais il ne peut pas trouver la paix, car il ne pense qu'en fonction d'une durĂ©e faite de passĂ©, prĂ©sent et futur, de ce qui a Ă©tĂ©, est et sera. Il ne cesse de condamner, juger, soupeser, comparer, de poursuivre ses vanitĂ©s, ses habitudes, ses croyances; il n'est jamais paisible. Il peut se donner l'illusion d'un Ă©tat qu'il appelle paix mais qui ne l'est pas. Il peut s'hypnotiser par des rĂ©pĂ©titions de mots et de phrases, en devenant l'adepte de quelqu'un ou en accumulant des connaissances, mais il est son propre centre de dĂ©sordre, il est de par sa nature mĂȘme, l'essence du Temps. L'esprit avec lequel nous pensons, avec lequel nous calculons, inventons et comparons, est incapable de trouver la paix. La paix n'est pas un produit de la raison; et pourtant si vous observez les religions organisĂ©es, vous pouvez voir qu'elles sont toutes embarquĂ©es dans sa poursuite, au moyen de la pensĂ©e. La paix rĂ©elle est aussi crĂ©ative et pure que la guerre est destructive, et pour la comprendre, il faut comprendre la beautĂ©. VoilĂ  pourquoi il est important, lorsqu'on est jeune, d'avoir de la beautĂ© autour de soi: la beautĂ© d'Ă©difices de bonnes proportions, la beautĂ© de la propreté  En comprenant ce qu'est la beautĂ©, vous saurez ce qu'est l'amour. Comprendre la beautĂ© est la paix du cƓur. La paix est du cƓur, non de l'esprit. Pour la connaĂźtre, cherchez Ă  savoir ce qu'est la beautĂ©. La façon dont vous Marchez, les mots que vous employez, les gestes que vous faites
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634- 🙏 ENG | Jiddu KrishnamurtiđŸ’„ 💛PUBLICATION : Version Française aprĂšs la Version Anglaise💛 |❖ For OPTIMAL UNDERSTANDING Read the whole text with ATTENTION ❖| Public Talk - Life Ahead ☀ LIFE ☀ 17 PEACE ―⁈ Q.: IS IT POSSIBLE TO HAVE PEACE IN OUR LIVES when at every moment we are struggling against our environment? ☀ K.: What is our environment? Our environment is society, the economic, religious, national and class environment of the country in which we grow up; and also the climate. Most of us are struggling to fit in, to adjust ourselves to our environment, because we hope to get a job from that environment, we hope to have the benefits of that particular society. But what is that society made up of? Have you ever thought about it? Have you ever looked closely at the society in which you are living and to which you are trying to adjust yourself? That society is based on a set of beliefs and traditions which is called religion, and on certain economic values, is it not? You are part of that society, and you are struggling to adjust yourself to it. BUT THAT SOCIETY IS THE OUTCOME OF ACQUISITIVENESS, IT IS THE OUTCOME OF ENVY, FEAR, GREED, POSSESSIVE PURSUITS, WITH OCCASIONAL FLASHES OF LOVE. AND IF YOU WANT TO BE INTELLIGENT, FEARLESS, NON-ACQUISITIVE, CAN YOU ADJUST YOURSELF TO SUCH A SOCIETY? CAN YOU? SURELY, YOU HAVE TO CREATE A NEW SOCIETY, which means that you as an individual have to be free of acquisitiveness of envy, of greed; you have to be free of nationalism, of patriotism, and of all narrowing down of religious thought. Only then is there a possibility of creating something new, a totally new society. But as long as you thoughtlessly struggle to adjust yourself to the present society, you are merely following the old pattern of envy, of power and prestige, of beliefs which are corruptive. So it is very important, while you are young, to begin to understand these problems and bring about real freedom within yourself, for then you will create a new world, a new society, a new relationship between man and man. And to help you do this is surely the true function of education. ―⁈ Q.: WHY DO WE SUFFER? WHY CAN WE NOT BE FREE OF DISEASE AND DEATH? ☀ K.: Through sanitation, through proper living conditions and nutritious food, man is beginning to free himself from certain diseases. Through surgery and various forms of treatment, medical science is trying to find a cure for incurable diseases like cancer. A capable doctor does all he can to relieve and eliminate disease. And is death conquerable? It is a most extraordinary thing that, at your age, you are so interested in death. Why are you so preoccupied with it? Is it because you see so much of death about you - the burning ghats the body being carried to the river? To you, death is a familiar sight, it is so constantly with you; and there is the fear of death. If you do not reflect and understand for yourself the implications of death, you will go endlessly from one preacher to another, from one hope to another, from one belief to another, trying to find a solution to this problem of death. Do you understand? Don't keep on asking somebody else, but try to find out for yourself the truth of the matter. To ask innumerable questions without ever trying to find out or discover, is characteristic of a petty mind. YOU SEE, WE FEAR DEATH ONLY WHEN WE CLING TO LIFE. THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE WHOLE PROCESS OF LIVING IS ALSO THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE SIGNIFICANCE OF DYING. Death is merely the extinction of continuity, and we are afraid of not being able to continue; but what continues can never be creative. THINK IT OUT; DISCOVER FOR YOURSELF WHAT IS TRUE. IT IS TRUTH THAT LIBERATES YOU FROM THE FEAR OF DEATH, AND NOT YOUR RELIGIOUS THEORIES, NOR YOUR BELIEF IN REINCARNATION OR IN LIFE HEREAFTER. ☀ đŸ•Šïž 🙏 Sadhu ! Sadhu ! Sadhu ! 🙏 đŸ•Šïž Among others it is used to express shared joy, moral approval, and spiritual agreement. Also means « excellent, well done, or it is good.» - «Amen or Hallelujah» J.K. Krishnamurti |❖Mindfulness € Self Mastery € Spirituality € Mental Clarity € Attachment Free ❖| ―🙏― 📖 VERSION FRANÇAISE 📖 đŸ•ŠïžOn LinkedIn « New Post » 634- 🙏FR | Jiddu Krishnamurti |❖ Pour une COMPRÉHENSION OPTIMALE, LIRE avec ATTENTION le texte au complet « du DĂ©but Ă  la Fin » ❖| Causerie - Face Ă  la vie ☀ La vie ☀ LA PAIX
☀ ―⁈ Q.: EST-IL POSSIBLE D'AVOIR LA PAIX DANS NOS VIES lorsqu'Ă  tout instant nous luttons contre notre milieu? ☀ K.: En quoi consiste ce milieu? C'est la SociĂ©tĂ©, l'organisation Ă©conomique, religieuse, nationale, les classes sociales du pays oĂč vous ĂȘtes Ă©levĂ©, et aussi le climat. La plupart des personnes luttent pour s'adapter Ă  leur milieu, dans l'espoir d'obtenir un emploi et de profiter des avantages que cette SociĂ©tĂ© peut leur procurer. MAIS DE QUOI EST FAITE CETTE SOCIÉTÉ DANS LAQUELLE VOUS VIVEZ et Ă  laquelle vous essayez de vous adapter? Y avez-vous jamais pensĂ©? ELLE EST ÉTABLIE SUR UN CERTAIN NOMBRE DE CROYANCES ET DE TRADITIONS QU'ON APPELLE RELIGION ET SUR UN CERTAIN SYSTÈME ÉCONOMIQUE. VOUS EN FAITES PARTIE, ET VOUS LUTTEZ POUR VOUS Y MAINTENIR EN BONNE PLACE. MAIS ELLE EST LE PRODUIT DE DÉSIRS D'ACQUISITION, DE POURSUITES POSSESSIVES, COMPORTANT DE L'ENVIE, DE LA PEUR, DE L'AVIDITÉ, AVEC, À L'OCCASION, QUELQUES ÉCLAIRS D'AMOUR. ET SI VOUS VOULEZ ÊTRE INTELLIGENT, SANS PEUR, SANS AVIDITÉ, POUVEZ-VOUS VOUS ADAPTER À UNE TELLE SOCIÉTÉ? LE POUVEZ-VOUS? SI VOUS VOULEZ CRÉER UNE NOUVELLE SOCIÉTÉ, il faut que vous, en tant qu'individu, soyez exempt du sens d'acquisition, que vous n'Ă©prouviez ni envie ni aviditĂ©, ni aucun sentiment nationaliste ou patriotique, et que votre pensĂ©e ne soit pas Ă©troitement religieuse. Mais tant que vous luttez sans intelligence pour vous ajuster Ă  votre milieu, vous ne faites que vous conformer aux anciennes valeurs corrompues de l'ambition, du pouvoir, du prestige, des croyances. Il est trĂšs important de commencer jeunes Ă  comprendre ces problĂšmes et Ă  instaurer en soi une libertĂ© rĂ©elle, afin de crĂ©er un monde nouveau, une SociĂ©tĂ© nouvelle, de nouvelles relations humaines. La vraie fonction de l'Ă©ducation est de vous aider dans cette voie. ―⁈ Q.: POURQUOI SOUFFRONS-NOUS? POURQUOI NE POUVONS-NOUS PAS ÉVITER LES MALADIES ET LA MORT? ☀ K.: Avec de l'hygiĂšne et de bonnes conditions de vie, l'homme commence Ă  se dĂ©livrer de certains maux. Par la chirurgie et d'autres traitements, la mĂ©decine cherche Ă  vaincre des maladies incurables, comme le cancer. Un bon mĂ©decin fait tout ce qu'il peut pour guĂ©rir les malades. Mais peut-on conquĂ©rir la mort? Il est vraiment extraordinaire que cette question vous intĂ©resse tellement Ă  votre Ăąge. Pourquoi vous prĂ©occupe-t-elle? Est-ce parce que vous la voyez tellement autour de vous? Les bĂ»chers oĂč brĂ»lent les cadavres, les morts qu'on dĂ©pose au bord du fleuve? Pour vous, la mort est un spectacle familier et vous en avez peur. Si vous n'y rĂ©flĂ©chissez pas vous-mĂȘme, si vous ne comprenez pas personnellement ses implications, vous irez indĂ©finiment d'un prĂ©dicateur Ă  un autre, d'un espoir Ă  un autre, d'une croyance Ă  une autre, en quĂȘte d'une solution Ă  ce problĂšme. Cessez de poser des questions Ă  ce sujet; tĂąchez de comprendre oĂč est la vĂ©ritĂ©. Poser d'innombrables questions sans chercher Ă  dĂ©couvrir les choses par soi-mĂȘme est le propre d'un esprit mesquin. VOYEZ-VOUS, ON NE CRAINT LA MORT QUE LORSQU'ON S'ACCROCHE À LA VIE. COMPRENDRE LE PROCESSUS TOTAL DE LA VIE C'EST AUSSI COMPRENDRE LE SENS DE LA MORT. La mort n'est que l'extinction d'une continuitĂ© et nous avons peur de ne pas pouvoir nous prolonger; mais ce qui se perpĂ©tue ne peut jamais ĂȘtre crĂ©atif. PENSEZ-Y. DÉCOUVREZ PAR VOUS-MÊME LA VÉRITÉ EN CETTE AFFAIRE. C'EST LA VÉRITÉ QUI DÉLIVRE DE LA PEUR DE LA MORT, NON VOS THÉORIES RELIGIEUSES, VOTRE CROYANCE EN LA RÉINCARNATION OU EN UN AU-DELÀ. ☀ đŸ•Šïž 🙏 Sadhu ! Sadhu ! Sadhu ! 🙏 đŸ•Šïž UtilisĂ© entre autres pour exprimer une joie partagĂ©e de dĂ©votion, une approbation des valeurs morales et spirituelles. Aussi une expression d’accord et d’éloge, signifiant « excellent, bien, bon » – « Amen » ou « AllĂ©luia » J.K. Krishnamurti |❖ Pleine Conscience € MaĂźtrise de Soi € SpiritualitĂ© € ClartĂ© Mentale € Non-attachement ❖|
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 Beauty cannot be defined, it cannot be explained in words. It can be understood only when the mind is very quiet. So, while you are young and sensitive, it is essential that you - as well as those who are responsible for you - should create an atmosphere of beauty. The way you dress, the way you walk, the way you sit, the way you eat - all these things, and the things about you, are very important. As you grow up you will meet the ugly things of life - ugly buildings, ugly people with their malice, envy, ambition, cruelty; and if in your heart there is not founded and established the perception of beauty, you will easily be swept away by the enormous current of the world. Then you will get caught in the endless struggle to find peace through the mind. The mind projects an idea of what peace is and tries to pursue it, thereby getting caught in the net of words in the net of fancies and illusions. PEACE CAN COME ONLY WHEN THERE IS LOVE. If you have peace merely through security, financial or otherwise, or through certain dogmas, rituals, verbal repetitions, there is no creativeness; there is no urgency to bring about a fundamental revolution in the world. Such peace only leads to contentment and resignation. BUT WHEN IN YOU THERE IS THE UNDERSTANDING OF LOVE AND BEAUTY, THEN YOU WILL FIND THE PEACE THAT IS NOT A MERE PROJECTION OF THE MIND. IT IS THIS PEACE THAT IS CREATIVE, THAT REMOVES CONFUSION AND BRINGS ORDER WITHIN ONESELF. BUT THIS PEACE DOES NOT COME THROUGH ANY EFFORT TO FIND IT. IT COMES WHEN YOU ARE CONSTANTLY WATCHING, WHEN YOU ARE SENSITIVE TO BOTH THE UGLY AND THE BEAUTIFUL, TO THE GOOD AND THE BAD, TO ALL THE FLUCTUATIONS OF LIFE. Peace is not something petty, created by the mind; it is enormously great, infinitely extensive, and it can be understood only when the heart is full. ―⁈ Q.: WHY DO WE FEEL INFERIOR BEFORE OUR SUPERIORS? ☀ K.: Whom do you consider your superiors? Those who know? Those who have titles, degrees? Those from whom you want something, some kind of reward or position. The moment you regard somebody as superior do you not regard somebody else as inferior? Why do we have this division of the superior and the inferior? It exists only when we want something, does it not? I feel less intelligent than you are, I do not have as much money or capacity as you have, I am not as happy as you seem to be, or I want something from you; so I feel inferior to you. When I am envious of you, or when I am trying to imitate you, or when I want something from you, I immediately become your inferior, because I have put you on a pedestal, I have given you a superior value. So, psychologically, inwardly, I create both the superior and the inferior; I create this sense of inequality between those who have and those who have not. Among human beings there is enormous inequality of capacity, is there not? There is the man who designs the jet plane, and the man who guides the plough. These vast differences in capacity - intellectual, verbal, physical - are inevitable. But you see we give tremendous significance to certain functions. We consider the governor, the Prime minister, the inventor, the scientist, as being enormously more important than the servant; so function assumes status. As long as we give status to particular functions, there is bound to be a sense of inequality, and the gap between those who are capable and those who are not becomes unbridgeable. IF WE CAN KEEP FUNCTION STRIPPED OF STATUS, THEN THERE IS A POSSIBILITY OF BRINGING ABOUT A REAL FEELING OF EQUALITY. BUT FOR THIS THERE MUST BE LOVE; BECAUSE IT IS LOVE THAT DESTROYS THE SENSE OF THE INFERIOR AND THE SUPERIOR. The world is divided into those who have - the rich, the powerful, the capable, those who have everything - and those who have not. And is it possible to bring about a world in which this division between the 'haves' and the 'have-nots' does not exist? Actually, what is happening is this: seeing the breach, this gulf between the rich and the poor, between the man of great capacity and the man of little or no capacity, the politicians and economists are trying to solve the problem through economic and social reform. That may be all right. BUT A REAL TRANSFORMATION CAN NEVER TAKE PLACE AS LONG AS WE DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE PROCESS OF ANTAGONISM, ENVY, MALICE; FOR IT IS ONLY WHEN THIS PROCESS IS UNDERSTOOD AND COMES TO AN END THAT THERE CAN BE LOVE IN OUR HEARTS. ☀ đŸ•Šïž 🙏Sadhu ! Sadhu ! Sadhu ! 🙏 đŸ•ŠïžAmong others it is used to express shared joy, moral approval, and spiritual agreement. Also means « excellent, well done, or it is good.» - «Amen or Hallelujah» J.K. Krishnamurti |❖Mindfulness € Self Mastery € Spirituality € Mental Clarity € Attachment Free ❖| ―🙏― 📖 VERSION FRANÇAISE 📖 đŸ•ŠïžOn LinkedIn « New Post » 633-R 🙏FR | Jiddu Krishnamurti |❖ Pour une COMPRÉHENSION OPTIMALE, LIRE avec ATTENTION le texte au complet « du DĂ©but Ă  la Fin » ❖| Causerie - Face Ă  la vie ☀ La vie ☀ 17 LA PAIX
 ☀ La beautĂ© ne peut pas ĂȘtre dĂ©finie, elle ne peut pas ĂȘtre expliquĂ©e avec des mots. Elle ne peut ĂȘtre comprise que lorsque l'esprit est trĂšs tranquille. Il est essentiel, pendant que vous ĂȘtes jeunes et avez de la sensibilitĂ©, que vous - et ceux qui sont responsables de votre Ă©ducation - crĂ©iez une atmosphĂšre de beautĂ©. Votre façon de vous habiller, de Marcher, de vous asseoir, de manger - tout cela et tout ce qui vous entoure est trĂšs important. En grandissant, vous verrez les vilains aspects de la vie - des maisons sordides, des personnes qu'enlaidissent leur mĂ©chancetĂ©, leur envie, leur ambition, leur cruautĂ©, et si dans vos cƓurs la perception de la beautĂ© n'est pas instantanĂ©e et Ă©tablie, vous serez facilement emportĂ©s par l'Ă©norme courant du monde. Alors vous serez pris dans l'incessant combat que mĂšne l'esprit Ă  la recherche de la paix. Il projette l'idĂ©e de ce que la paix devrait ĂȘtre et en essayant d'atteindre cette idĂ©e, il tombe dans le piĂšge des mots, dans le piĂšge des fantaisies et des illusions. LA PAIX NE PEUT S'INSTAURER QUE PAR L'AMOUR. Si on l'Ă©tablit par des dispositifs de sĂ©curitĂ©, ou par des moyens financiers, ou par la propagation de dogmes, de rituels, de rĂ©pĂ©titions verbales, ou autrement, il n'y a rien lĂ  de crĂ©ateur et la nĂ©cessitĂ© urgente d'une rĂ©volution fondamentale dans le monde est perdue de vue. Une telle paix ne peut que produire de la satisfaction chez les uns et de la rĂ©signation chez les autres. MAIS QUAND ON A EN SOI LA COMPRÉHENSION DE L'AMOUR ET DE LA BEAUTÉ, ON TROUVE UNE PAIX QUI N'EST PAS UNE SIMPLE PROJECTION DE L'ESPRIT, QUI N'EST PAS LE RÉSULTAT DE RECHERCHES LABORIEUSES; ELLE EST CRÉATRICE, ELLE ÉLIMINE LA CONFUSION ET MET DE L'ORDRE DANS LES ESPRITS, ELLE SURVIENT LORSQU'ON EST TOUT LE TEMPS DANS UN ÉTAT D'OBSERVATION, LORSQU'ON EST SENSIBLE À LA FOIS À LA LAIDEUR ET À LA BEAUTÉ, AU BIEN ET AU MAL, À TOUTES LES FLUCTUATIONS DE LA VIE. La paix n'est pas une chose mesquine, créée par la pensĂ©e; elle est immensĂ©ment grande, infiniment Ă©tendue et ne peut ĂȘtre comprise que dans la plĂ©nitude du cƓur. ―⁈ Q.: POURQUOI NOUS SENTONS-NOUS INFÉRIEURS DEVANT NOS SUPÉRIEURS? ☀ K.: Qui sont vos supĂ©rieurs? Ceux qui savent? Ceux qui ont des titres et des diplĂŽmes? Ceux de qui vous espĂ©rez quelque chose: une rĂ©compense ou une situation? DĂšs que vous considĂ©rez quelqu'un comme Ă©tant votre supĂ©rieur, ne considĂ©rez-vous pas d'autres personnes comme Ă©tant infĂ©rieures Ă  vous? Pourquoi crĂ©e-t-on cette distinction de personnes supĂ©rieures et infĂ©rieures? Elle n'existe que lorsqu'on dĂ©sire quelque chose. « Je me sens moins intelligent que vous, j'ai moins d'argent ou de capacitĂ©s, je ne suis pas aussi heureux que vous semblez l'ĂȘtre, donc je me sens infĂ©rieur Ă  vous ». En d'autres termes, lorsqu'on est envieux, lorsqu'on essaye d'imiter quelqu'un ou que l'on voudrait obtenir quelque chose de cette personne, on devient immĂ©diatement son infĂ©rieur, on le met sur un piĂ©destal, on lui accorde une trĂšs grande valeur. Ainsi, psychologiquement, intĂ©rieurement, on crĂ©e le supĂ©rieur et l'infĂ©rieur, on crĂ©e ce sentiment d'inĂ©galitĂ© entre ceux qui ont et ceux qui n'ont pas. Parmi les ĂȘtres humains, il y a une Ă©norme inĂ©galitĂ© de capacitĂ©s. Il y a celui qui dessine l'avion Ă  rĂ©action et celui qui mĂšne la charrue. Ces trĂšs grandes diffĂ©rences de dons intellectuels ou physiques sont inĂ©vitables. Mais nous accordons une importance extraordinaire Ă  certaines fonctions. Nous considĂ©rons que le gouverneur, le premier ministre, l'inventeur, le savant, sont infiniment plus importants que le domestique; ainsi la fonction devient un Ă©tat social. Tant que nous attribuerons tel Ă©tat social Ă  telle fonction, il y aura nĂ©cessairement un sentiment d'inĂ©galitĂ©, un fossĂ© qui deviendra infranchissable entre les personnes capables et celles qui ne le seront pas. SI NOUS POUVONS DÉPOUILLER LA FONCTION DE L'ÉTAT SOCIAL QUI L'ACCOMPAGNE, NOUS CRÉERONS UN VRAI SENTIMENT D'ÉGALITÉ. MAIS POUR CELA IL FAUT DE L'AMOUR; CAR C'EST L'AMOUR QUI DÉTRUIT LE SENS D'INFÉRIORITÉ ET DE SUPÉRIORITÉ. Le monde est divisĂ© en ceux qui ont - les riches, les puissants, les capables, ceux qui ont tout - et ceux qui n'ont pas. Est-il possible de crĂ©er un monde dans lequel cette division n'existerait pas? Ce qui se produit en ce moment c'est que les politiciens et les Ă©conomistes, voyant ce fossĂ© entre les riches et les pauvres, les capables et les incapables, essayent de rĂ©soudre ce problĂšme par des moyens Ă©conomiques et des rĂ©formes sociales. Cela va bien jusqu'Ă  un certain point. MAIS UNE RÉELLE TRANSFORMATION NE PEUT AVOIR LIEU TANT QUE NOUS NE COMPRENONS PAS LE PROCESSUS ENTIER DE L'ANTAGONISME, DE L'ENVIE, DE LA MALVEILLANCE. CE N'EST QUE LORSQUE CE PROCESSUS PREND FIN QU'IL PEUT Y AVOIR DE L'AMOUR DANS NOS CƒURS. ☀ đŸ•Šïž 🙏 Sadhu ! Sadhu ! Sadhu ! 🙏 đŸ•Šïž UtilisĂ© entre autres pour exprimer une joie partagĂ©e de dĂ©votion, une approbation des valeurs morales et spirituelles. Aussi une expression d’accord et d’éloge, signifiant « excellent, bien, bon » – « Amen » ou « AllĂ©luia » J.K. Krishnamurti |❖ Pleine Conscience € MaĂźtrise de Soi € SpiritualitĂ© € ClartĂ© Mentale € Non-attachement ❖|
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|❖ INSIGHT € PROFOUND VISION € ONE TRUTH ❖| #Buddha’s Teachings Anguttara Nikaya Numerical Discourses of the Buddha The Jhanas Jhana is a meditative state of profound stillness and concentration in which the mind becomes fully immersed and absorbed in the chosen object of attention. It is the cornerstone in the development of Right Concentration. ☀The definition (with similes) [1st jhana] "There is the case where a monk — quite withdrawn from sensuality, withdrawn from unskillful qualities — enters and remains in the first jhana: rapture and pleasure born from withdrawal, accompanied by directed thought and evaluation. He permeates and pervades, suffuses and fills this very body with the rapture and pleasure born from withdrawal. There is nothing of his entire body unpervaded by rapture and pleasure born from withdrawal. "Just as if a skilled bathman or bathman's apprentice would pour bath powder into a brass basin and knead it together, sprinkling it again and again with water, so that his ball of bath powder — saturated, moisture-laden, permeated within and without — would nevertheless not drip; even so, the monk permeates, suffuses and fills this very body with the rapture and pleasure born of withdrawal. There is nothing of his entire body unpervaded by rapture and pleasure born from withdrawal... [2nd jhana] "Furthermore, with the stilling of directed thoughts & evaluations, he enters and remains in the second jhana: rapture and pleasure born of composure, unification of awareness free from directed thought and evaluation — internal assurance. He permeates and pervades, suffuses and fills this very body with the rapture and pleasure born of composure. There is nothing of his entire body unpervaded by rapture and pleasure born of composure. "Just like a lake with spring-water welling up from within, having no inflow from east, west, north, or south, and with the skies periodically supplying abundant showers, so that the cool fount of water welling up from within the lake would permeate and pervade, suffuse and fill it with cool waters, there being no part of the lake unpervaded by the cool waters; even so, the monk permeates and pervades, suffuses and fills this very body with the rapture and pleasure born of composure. There is nothing of his entire body unpervaded by rapture and pleasure born of composure... [3rd jhana] "And furthermore, with the fading of rapture, he remains equanimous, mindful, & alert, and senses pleasure with the body. He enters & remains in the third jhana, of which the Noble Ones declare, 'Equanimous & mindful, he has a pleasant abiding.' He permeates and pervades, suffuses and fills this very body with the pleasure divested of rapture, so that there is nothing of his entire body unpervaded with pleasure divested of rapture. "Just as in a blue-, white-, or red-lotus pond, there may be some of the blue, white, or red lotuses which, born and growing in the water, stay immersed in the water and flourish without standing up out of the water, so that they are permeated and pervaded, suffused and filled with cool water from their roots to their tips, and nothing of those blue, white, or red lotuses would be unpervaded with cool water; even so, the monk permeates and pervades, suffuses and fills this very body with the pleasure divested of rapture. There is nothing of his entire body unpervaded with pleasure divested of rapture... [4th jhana] "And furthermore, with the abandoning of pleasure and stress — as with the earlier disappearance of elation and distress — he enters and remains in the fourth jhana: purity of equanimity and mindfulness, neither-pleasure-nor-pain. He sits, permeating the body with a pure, bright awareness, so that there is nothing of his entire body unpervaded by pure, bright awareness. "Just as if a man were sitting wrapped from head to foot with a white cloth so that there would be no part of his body to which the white cloth did not extend; even so, the monk sits, permeating his body with a pure, bright awareness. There is nothing of his entire body unpervaded by pure, bright awareness." — AN 5. 28 ―☀― TEXT-IMAGE THE JHANAS - MASTERY OF JHANA IS A MARK OF WISDOM "I declare a person endowed with four qualities to be one of great discernment, a great man. Which four? ―☀ There is the case, brahman, where he practices for the welfare & happiness of many people and has established many people in the noble method, i.e., the rightness of what is admirable, the rightness of what is skillful. ―☀ He thinks any thought he wants to think, and doesn't think any thought he doesn't want to think. He wills any resolve he wants to will, and doesn't will any resolve he doesn't want to will. He has attained mastery of the mind with regard to the pathways of thought. ―☀ He attains — whenever he wants, without strain, without difficulty — the four jhanas that are heightened mental states, pleasant abidings in the here-&-now. ―☀ With the ending of mental fermentations — he remains in the fermentation-free awareness-release & discernment-release, having directly known & realized them for himself right in the here-&-now. ☀ ...I declare a person endowed with these four qualities to be one of great discernment, a great man." — AN 4. 35 ☀ ―☀― Jhana and insight, hand-in-hand There's no jhana for one with no discernment, no discernment for one with no jhana. But one with both jhana & discernment: he's on the verge of Unbinding. Dhp 372 Cont.: ―☀The Book of the Ones is finished. The Book of the Twos ☀― Tomorrow’s Post Buddha |❖ Mindfulness € Self Mastery € Spirituality € Mental Clarity € Attachment Free ❖|
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#Buddha’s Teachings The numerical Discourses of the Buddha Aáč…guttaraNikāya AN 33 ☀ The Book of the TWOS by Bhikkhu Bodhi Homage to the Blessed One, the Arahant, the Perfectly Enlightened One ―☀ SAME-MINDED ☀― 32 (1) “Bhikkhus, I will teach you the plane of the bad person and the plane of the good person. Listen and attend closely. I will speak.” “Yes, Bhante,” those bhikkhus replied. The Blessed One said this: “And what is the plane of the bad person? A bad person is ungrateful and unthankful. For ingratitude and unthankfulness are extolled by the bad. Ingratitude and unthankfulness belong entirely to the plane of the bad person. “And what is the plane of the good person? A good person is grateful and thankful. For gratitude and thankfulness are extolled by the good. Gratitude and thankfulness belong entirely to the plane of the good person.” 33 (2) “Bhikkhus, there are two persons that cannot easily be repaid. What two? One’s mother and father. “Even if one should carry about one’s mother on one shoulder and one’s father on the other, and [while doing so] should have a life span of a hundred years, live for a hundred years; and if one should attend to them by anointing them with balms, by massaging, bathing, and rubbing their limbs, and they even void their urine and excrement there, one still would not have done enough for one’s parents, nor would one have repaid them. Even if one were to establish one’s parents as the supreme lords and rulers over this great earth abounding in the seven treasures, one still would not have done enough for one’s parents, nor would one have repaid them. For what reason? Parents are of great help to their children; they bring them up, feed them, and show them the world. “But, bhikkhus, if, when one’s parents lack faith, one encourages, settles, and establishes them in faith; if, when one’s parents are immoral, one encourages, settles, and establishes them in virtuous behavior; if, when one’s parents are miserly, one encourages, settles, and establishes them in generosity; if, when one’s parents are unwise, one encourages, settles, and establishes them in wisdom: in such a way, one has done enough for one’s parents, repaid them, and done more than enough for them.” 34 (3) Then a certain brahmin approached the Blessed One and 
 said : “What does Master Gotama assert, what does he declare?” “Brahmin, I assert a doctrine of deeds and a doctrine of nondoing.”( a doctrine that denied the validity of ethical distinctions) 
 “I assert non-doing with regard to bodily, verbal, and mental misconduct; I assert non-doing with regard to the numerous kinds of bad unwholesome qualities. I assert doing with regard to good bodily, verbal, and mental conduct; I assert doing with regard to the numerous kinds of wholesome qualities. It is in this way, brahmin, that I assert a doctrine of deeds and a doctrine of non-doing.” “Excellent, Master Gotama! Excellent, 
 ―☀☀― 35 (4) SAME-MINDED Then the householder Anāthapiáč‡ážika approached the Blessed One, paid homage to him, sat down to one side, and said to him: ―☀ “Who in the world, Bhante, is worthy of offerings, and where is a gift to be given?” ☀― “There are, householder, two in the world worthy of offerings: the trainee and the one beyond training. These are the two in the world worthy of offerings and a gift is to be given to them.” 
 “In this world the trainee and one beyond training are worthy of the gifts of those practicing charity; upright in body, speech, and mind, they are the field for those practicing charity; what is given to them brings great fruit.” 36 (5) SAME-MINDED Thus have I heard. On one occasion the Blessed One was dwelling at SāvatthÄ« in Jeta’s Grove, Anāthapiáč‡ážika’s Park. Now on that occasion the Venerable Sāriputta was dwelling at SāvatthÄ« in Migāramātā’s Mansion in the Eastern Park. There the Venerable Sāriputta addressed the bhikkhus: “Friends, bhikkhus!” “Friends, I will teach you about the person fettered internally and the person fettered externally.(NOTE: “In this world there are two kinds of people. Which two? The person with an internal fetter, the non-returner, who does not come back to this world. And the person with an external fetter, one who is not a non-returner but comes back to this world” ) 
 Sāriputta said this: “And who, friends, is the person fettered internally? Here, a bhikkhu is virtuous; he dwells restrained by the Pātimokkha, possessed of good conduct and resort, seeing danger in minute faults. Having undertaken the training rules, he trains in them. With the breakup of the body, after death, he is reborn in a certain order of devas. Passing away from there, he is a returner, one who returns to this state of being. This is called the person fettered internally, who is a returner, one who returns to this state of being. (NOTE: He returns to this state of the human five aggregates. Or else, he is not reborn in that heavenly realm or in some higher realm, but he comes back to a lower realm.) Cont.: The Book of the Twos ―☀36 (5) SAME-MINDED☀― Tomorrow’s Post
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625- 🙏 ENG | Jiddu Krishnamurti 💛PUBLICATION : Version Française aprĂšs la Version Anglaise💛 |❖ For OPTIMAL UNDERSTANDING Read the whole text with ATTENTION ❖| 7e Public Talk ☀ The Network of Thought - Saanen 26 Juillet 1981 ☀ ATTENTION ☀ ☀ K.: So then we begin to ask: what is meditation? FIRST OF ALL, MEDITATION DEMANDS ATTENTION, WHICH IS TO GIVE YOUR WHOLE CAPACITY, ENERGY, IN OBSERVATION. ATTENTION IS DIFFERENT FROM CONCENTRATION. Concentration is an effort made by thought to focus its capacity, its energy, on a particular subject. When you are in school you are trained to concentrate, that is to bring all your energy to a particular point. In concentration you are not allowing any other kind of thoughts to interfere; concentration implies the controlling of thought, not allowing it to wander away but keeping it focused on a particular subject. It is the operation of thought which focuses attention, focuses energy, on that subject. In that operation of thought there is compulsion, control. So in concentration there is the controller and the controlled. Thought is wandering off; thought says it should not wander off, and I bring it back as the controller who says, 'I must concentrate on this.' So there is a controller and the controlled. Who is the controller? The controller is part of thought and the controller is the past. ☀ The controller says, -I have learnt a great deal and it is important for me, the controller, to control thought.' That is: thought has divided itself as the controller and the controlled; it is a trick that thought is playing upon itself. ―☀― TEXT–IMAGE MEDITATION ATTENTION DIFFER FROM CONCENTRATION IN CONCENTRATION THERE IS THE CONTROLLER AND THE CONTROLLED Now, in attention there is no controller, nor is there the controlled, there is only attention. So a careful examination is required into the nature of concentration with its controller and the controlled. All our life there is this controller - 'I must do this, I must not do that, I must control my desires, control my anger, control my impetus.' We must be very clear in understanding what concentration is and what attention is. In attention there is no controller. So, is there in daily existence, a way of living in which every form of psychological control ceases to exist? - because control means effort, it means division between the controller and the controlled; I am angry, I must control my anger; I smoke, I must not smoke and I must resist smoking. We are saying there is something totally different and this may be misunderstood and may be rejected altogether because it is very common to say that all life is control - if you do not control you will become permissive, nonsensical, without meaning, therefore you must control. Religions, philosophies, teachers, your family, your mother, they all encourage you to control. We have never asked: who is the controller? The controller is put together in the past, the past which is knowledge, which is thought. Thought has separated itself as the controller and the controlled. Concentration is the operation of that. Understanding that, we are asking a much more fundamental question, which is: can one live in this world, with a family and responsibilities, without a shadow of control? See the beauty of that question. Our brain has been trained for thousands of years to inhibit, to control, and now it is never operating with the wholeness of itself. See for yourself what it is doing; watch your own brain in operation, rationally, critically examining it in a way in which there is no deception or hypnosis. ☀ đŸ•Šïž 🙏Sadhu ! Sadhu ! Sadhu ! 🙏 đŸ•ŠïžAmong others it is used to express shared joy, moral approval, and spiritual agreement. Also means « excellent, well done, or it is good.» - «Amen or Hallelujah» J.K. Krishnamurti |❖Mindfulness € Self Mastery € Spirituality € Mental Clarity € Attachment Free ❖| ―🙏― 📖 VERSION FRANÇAISE 📖 đŸ•ŠïžOn LinkedIn « New Post » 625- 🙏 FR | Jiddu Krishnamurti |❖ Pour une COMPRÉHENSION OPTIMALE, LIRE avec ATTENTION le texte au complet « du DĂ©but Ă  la Fin » ❖| 7e Public Talk ☀ Le RĂ©seau de la PensĂ©e Saanen 26 July 1981 ☀ ATTENTION ☀ ☀ K.: Nous commençons alors Ă  poser cette Question qu’est-ce que la mĂ©ditation ? TOUT D’ABORD, LA MÉDITATION REQUIERT DE L’ATTENTION, C’EST-À-DIRE QUE VOUS DEVEZ CONSACRER TOUTES VOS CAPACITÉS, TOUTE VOTRE ÉNERGIE À L’OBSERVATION. L’ATTENTION DIFFÈRE DE LA CONCENTRATION. La concentration est un effort rĂ©alisĂ© par la pensĂ©e pour focaliser ses capacitĂ©s, son Ă©nergie sur un sujet particulier. Quand vous ĂȘtes Ă  l’école, vous ĂȘtes entraĂźnĂ©s Ă  vous concentrer, c’est-Ă -dire Ă  amener toute votre Ă©nergie Ă  un certain point. Dans la concentration, vous ne permettez pas Ă  toute autre pensĂ©e d’intervenir. La concentration implique le contrĂŽle de la pensĂ©e, en ne lui permettant pas de s’égarer mais en la maintenant fixĂ©e sur un certain sujet. C’est l’opĂ©ration de la pensĂ©e qui concentre l’attention, qui concentre l’énergie sur ce sujet. Dans cette opĂ©ration de la pensĂ©e, il y a contrainte, contrĂŽle. Dans la concentration, il y a ainsi le contrĂŽleur et ce qu’il contrĂŽle. La pensĂ©e vagabonde, la pensĂ©e dit qu’elle ne devrait pas vagabonder et je la fais revenir au moment oĂč le contrĂŽleur dit : “je dois me concentrer sur cela”. Il y a donc un contrĂŽleur et ce qu’il contrĂŽle. Qui est le contrĂŽleur ? Le contrĂŽleur fait partie de la pensĂ©e et le contrĂŽleur est le passĂ©. ☀ Le contrĂŽleur dit : “j’ai appris beaucoup de choses et il est important pour moi, le contrĂŽleur, de contrĂŽler la pensĂ©e”. Ce qui veut dire que la pensĂ©e s’est divisĂ©e entre le contrĂŽleur et le contrĂŽlĂ©. C’est un tour que la pensĂ©e se joue Ă  elle-mĂȘme. ―☀― TEXTE-IMAGE MÉDITATION ATTENTION DIFFÈRE DE LA CONCENTRATION DANS LA CONCENTRATION, IL Y A LE CONTRÔLEUR ET CE QU’IL CONTRÔLE. Or, dans l’Attention, il n’y a ni contrĂŽleur, ni contrĂŽlĂ©, il y a seulement Attention. Il est donc nĂ©cessaire d’examiner attentivement la nature de la concentration avec son contrĂŽleur et ce qu’il contrĂŽle. Pendant toute notre vie, il y a ce contrĂŽleur - “je dois faire ceci, je ne dois pas faire cela, je dois contrĂŽler mes dĂ©sirs, contrĂŽler ma colĂšre, contrĂŽler mes impulsions”. Nous devons comprendre trĂšs clairement ce que sont la concentration et l’attention. Dans l’attention, il n’y a pas de contrĂŽleur. Y a-t-il donc dans l’existence quotidienne une façon de vivre dans laquelle toute forme de contrĂŽle psychologique cesse d’exister ? - car contrĂŽle signifie effort, cela signifie division entre le contrĂŽleur et ce qu’il contrĂŽle ; je suis en colĂšre, je dois contrĂŽler ma colĂšre ; je fume, je ne dois pas fumer et je dois m’empĂȘcher de fumer. Nous disons qu’il existe quelque chose de totalement diffĂ©rent, ce qui peut ĂȘtre mal compris et Ă  la fois rejetĂ© car il est trĂšs courant de dire que toute vie est contrĂŽle. Si vous ne contrĂŽlez pas, vous allez devenir laxiste, absurde, insensĂ©, donc vous devez contrĂŽler. Les religions, les philosophies, les maĂźtres, votre famille, votre mĂšre, tous vous incitent Ă  contrĂŽler. Nous ne nous demandons jamais qui est le contrĂŽleur ? Le contrĂŽleur est créé dans le passĂ©, le passĂ© qui est savoir, qui est pensĂ©e. La pensĂ©e s’est scindĂ©e en deux, le contrĂŽleur et le contrĂŽlĂ©. La concentration est le rĂ©sultat de cette scission ; le comprenant, nous posons une question bien plus fondamentale qui est celle-ci : peut-on vivre dans ce monde avec une famille et des responsabilitĂ©s, sans le moindre contrĂŽle ? Voyez la beautĂ© de cette question. Depuis des milliers d’annĂ©es, notre cerveau est entraĂźnĂ© Ă  inhiber, Ă  contrĂŽler et maintenant il ne fonctionne jamais dans sa totalitĂ©. Voyez vous-mĂȘme ce qu’il fait, observez votre propre cerveau Ă  l’Ɠuvre, en l’examinant rationnellement avec un esprit critique pour Ă©viter toute illusion, toute hypnose. ☀ đŸ•Šïž 🙏 Sadhu ! Sadhu ! Sadhu ! 🙏 đŸ•Šïž UtilisĂ© entre autres pour exprimer une joie partagĂ©e de dĂ©votion, une approbation des valeurs morales et spirituelles. Aussi une expression d’accord et d’éloge, signifiant « excellent, bien, bon » – « Amen » ou « AllĂ©luia » J.K. Krishnamurti |❖ Pleine Conscience € MaĂźtrise de Soi € SpiritualitĂ© € ClartĂ© Mentale € Non-attachement ❖|
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631- 🙏 ENG | Jiddu Krishnamurti 💛PUBLICATION : Version Française aprĂšs la Version Anglaise💛 |❖ For OPTIMAL UNDERSTANDING Read the whole text with ATTENTION ❖| Public Talk - Life Ahead ☀ LIFE ☀ THE TRUTH ☀ ―⁈ Q.: WHAT IS KARMA. ☀ K.: KARMA IS ONE OF THE PECULIAR WORDS WE USE, it is one of those words in which our thought is caught. The poor man has to accept life in terms of a theory. He has to accept misery, starvation, squalor, because he is underfed and has not the energy to break away and create a revolution. He has to accept what life gives him, and so he says, "It is my karma to be like this; and the politicians, the big ones, encourage him to accept his misery. You do not want him to revolt against all that do you? But when you pay the poor man so little while you have so much, that is very likely to happen; so you use that word karma to encourage his passive acceptance of the misery in his life. The educated man, the man who has achieved, who has inherited, who has come to the top of things, the man who has power, position and the means of corruption - he also says, "It is my karma. I have done well in a previous life and now I am reaping the reward of my past action". But is that the meaning of karma - to accept things as they are? Do you understand? Does karma mean accepting things as they are without question, without a spark of revolt - which is the attitude many of us have? So you see how easily certain words become a net in which we get caught, because we are not really alive. THE TRUE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT WORD KARMA CANNOT BE UNDERSTOOD AS A THEORY; IT CANNOT BE UNDERSTOOD IF YOU SAY, "THAT IS WHAT THE BHAGAVAD-GITA SAYS". You know, the comparative mind is the most stupid mind of all, because it does not think; it merely says, "I have read such-and-such a book, and what you say is like it". When you say this, you have stopped thinking; when you compare, you are no longer investigating to find out what is true, irrespective of what any particular book or guru has said. So what is important is to throw off all authorities and investigate, find out, and not compare. Comparison is the worship of authority, it is imitation, thoughtlessness. To compare is the very nature of a mind that is not awake to discover what is true. You say, "That is so, it is like what was said by the Buddha", and you think you have thereby solved your problems. BUT REALLY TO DISCOVER THE TRUTH OF ANYTHING, YOU HAVE TO BE EXTREMELY ACTIVE, VIGOROUS, SELF-RELIANT; AND YOU CANNOT HAVE SELF-RELIANCE AS LONG AS YOU ARE THINKING COMPARATIVELY. PLEASE LISTEN TO THIS. IF THERE IS NO SELF-RELIANCE, YOU LOSE ALL POWER TO INVESTIGATE AND FIND OUT WHAT IS TRUE. Self-reliance brings a certain freedom in which you discover; and that freedom is denied to you when you are comparing. ―⁈ Q.: Is there an element of fear in respect? ☀ K.: What do you say? When you show respect to your teacher, to your parents, to your guru, and respect to your servant; when you kick the people who are not important to you, and lick the boots of those who are above you, the officials, the politicians, the big ones - is there not an element of fear in this? From the big ones, from the teacher, the examiner, the professor, from your parents, from the politician or the bank manager, you hope to get something; therefore you are respectful. But what can the poor people give you? So the poor you disregard, you treat them with contempt, you do not even know they are there when they pass you in the street. You do not look at them, it does not concern you that they shiver in the cold, that they are dirty and hungry. But you will give to the big ones, to the great of the land, even when you have very little, in order to receive more of their favours. In this there is definitely an element of fear, is there not? There is no love. IF YOU HAD LOVE IN YOUR HEART, YOU WOULD SHOW RESPECT TO THOSE WHO HAVE NOTHING AND ALSO TO THOSE WHO HAVE EVERYTHING; YOU WOULD NEITHER BE AFRAID OF THOSE WHO HAVE, NOR DISREGARD THOSE WHO HAVE NOT. RESPECT IN THE HOPE OF REWARD IS THE OUTCOME OF FEAR. IN LOVE THERE IS NO FEAR. ☀ đŸ•Šïž 🙏Sadhu ! Sadhu ! Sadhu ! 🙏 đŸ•ŠïžAmong others it is used to express shared joy, moral approval, and spiritual agreement. Also means « excellent, well done, or it is good.» - «Amen or Hallelujah» J.K. Krishnamurti |❖Mindfulness € Self Mastery € Spirituality € Mental Clarity € Attachment Free ❖| ―🙏― 📖 VERSION FRANÇAISE 📖 đŸ•ŠïžOn LinkedIn « New Post » 631- 🙏FR | Jiddu Krishnamurti |❖ Pour une COMPRÉHENSION OPTIMALE, LIRE avec ATTENTION le texte au complet « du DĂ©but Ă  la Fin » ❖| Causerie - Face Ă  la vie ☀ La vie ☀ 16 LA VÉRITÉ ☀ Q.: QU'EST-CE QUE C'EST QUE LE KARMA? (Notion brahmanique de causes et effets dans une succession de rĂ©incarnations, n.d.t.) ☀ K.: KARMA EST UN DE CES MOTS CURIEUX QUE L'ON EMPLOIE, un de ces mots oĂč l'esprit se laisse prendre. Les pauvres gens sont obligĂ©s d'accepter la vie en termes de dĂ©finitions thĂ©oriques. Ils subissent leur misĂšre, leur faim, leur existence sordide, et parce qu'ils ne sont pas assez nourris, ils n'ont pas l'Ă©nergie de briser cet Ă©tat de choses par une rĂ©volution. Alors ils disent: « c'est notre Karma d'ĂȘtre ainsi », et les politiciens, les gros personnages, les encouragent Ă  accepter cette misĂšre. Vous ne voudriez pas qu'ils se rĂ©voltent contre vous n'est-ce pas? Pourtant, lorsque vous payez les pauvres si peu, alors que vous possĂ©dez tellement, il est probable que c'est ce qui se produira; alors vous vous servez du mot Karma pour les encourager Ă  accepter passivement leur misĂšre. L'homme instruit, l'homme qui a hĂ©ritĂ©, qui est parvenu au sommet, l'homme qui exerce le pouvoir, qui par sa situation dispose des moyens de corruption, lui aussi dit: « c'est mon Karma, j'ai Ă©tĂ© vertueux dans une vie antĂ©rieure et je reçois aujourd'hui la rĂ©compense de mes actions passĂ©es ». Mais est-ce cela le sens de Karma? Accepter les choses telles qu'elles sont? Sans se poser de questions? Sans une Ă©tincelle de rĂ©volte? C'est l'Ă©tat d'esprit de la plupart d'entre vous, et vous voyez ainsi comment les mots vous captent du fait que vous n'ĂȘtes pas rĂ©ellement vivants. LA VRAIE SIGNIFICATION DE CE MOT KARMA NE PEUT PAS ÊTRE COMPRISE THÉORIQUEMENT; ELLE NE PEUT PAS ÊTRE COMPRISE SI ON DIT: « CELA SE TROUVE DANS LA BHAGAVAD GITA ». L'esprit qui compare est le plus inintelligent qui soit parce qu'il ne pense pas. Il se borne Ă  dire: « ce que vous dites n'est pas nouveau, je l'ai lu dans tel ou tel livre ». Lorsqu'il dit cela, il a dĂ©jĂ  cessĂ© de penser. DĂšs que l'on compare, on cesse de s'interroger, de s'enquĂ©rir de la vĂ©ritĂ© indĂ©pendamment de ce que pourrait dire n'importe quel livre ou gourou. Et ce qui est important c'est de rejeter toutes les autoritĂ©s, de chercher, d'explorer, non de comparer. Comparer c'est vĂ©nĂ©rer l'autoritĂ©, le conformisme, l'irrĂ©flexion. Il est dans la nature mĂȘme d'un esprit non Ă©veillĂ© Ă  la dĂ©couverte, de dire: « tels mots sont vrais, parce qu'ils sont semblables Ă  ceux du Bouddha », et de penser que les problĂšmes sont ainsi rĂ©solus. MAIS POUR DÉCOUVRIR LA VÉRITÉ À PROPOS DE N'IMPORTE QUOI, ON DOIT ÊTRE TRÈS ACTIF, VIGOUREUX, NE COMPTER QUE SUR SOI, CE QUI EST ÉVIDEMMENT IMPOSSIBLE LORSQU'ON PENSE PAR COMPARAISONS. ÉCOUTEZ BIEN CECI: VOUS NE DEVEZ VOUS APPUYER QUE SUR VOUS-MÊMES, FAUTE DE QUOI VOUS PERDREZ TOUT POUVOIR DE DÉCOUVRIR CE QUI EST VRAI. Ne compter que sur soi-mĂȘme donne un sens de libertĂ© qui est niĂ© lorsque l'on compare. Q.: Le respect comporte-t-il un Ă©lĂ©ment de crainte? ☀ K.: Qu'en pensez-vous? Lorsque vous tĂ©moignez du respect Ă  vos parents, Ă  votre gourou et que vous ĂȘtes irrespectueux envers des domestiques; lorsque vous donnez des coups de pied Ă  ceux qui, pour vous, n'ont aucune importance, et que vous lĂ©chez les bottes de ceux qui sont au-dessus de vous, aux personnages officiels, aux grands de ce monde, n'y a-t-il pas lĂ  un Ă©lĂ©ment de peur? Vous espĂ©rez obtenir quelque chose des grands, des professeurs, des examinateurs, des parents, d'un politicien ou d'un banquier, donc vous ĂȘtes respectueux Ă  leur Ă©gard. Mais que peut vous donner un pauvre? Rien. Donc vous le traitez avec insolence et mĂ©pris. Vous ne le voyez mĂȘme pas lorsque vous le croisez dans la rue. Qu'il grelotte de froid, qu'il soit sale, qu'il ait faim, cela ne vous concerne pas du tout. Mais vous offrirez aux puissants du peu que vous avez, dans l'espoir d'obtenir leur faveur. En cela il y a trĂšs certainement un Ă©lĂ©ment de peur, et aucun amour. SI VOUS AVIEZ DE L'AMOUR DANS VOTRE CƒUR, VOUS TÉMOIGNERIEZ DU RESPECT À CEUX QUI N'ONT RIEN ET AUSSI À CEUX QUI ONT TOUT; VOUS NE CRAINDRIEZ PAS CEUX QUI ONT, ET NE DÉDAIGNERIEZ PAS CEUX QUI N'ONT PAS. RESPECTER DANS L'ESPOIR D'UNE RÉCOMPENSE EST LE FAIT DE LA PEUR. DANS L'AMOUR, IL N'Y A PAS DE PEUR. ☀ đŸ•Šïž 🙏 Sadhu ! Sadhu ! 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630- 🙏 ENG | Jiddu Krishnamurti 💛PUBLICATION : Version Française aprĂšs la Version Anglaise💛 |❖ For OPTIMAL UNDERSTANDING Read the whole text with ATTENTION ❖| Public Talk - Life Ahead ☀ LIFE ☀ THE TRUTH ☀ You can kill with a word as well as with an action; and killing other human beings has never solved any of our problems. War has never cured any of our economic or social ills, nor has it brought about mutual understanding in human relationship; and yet the whole world is everlastingly preparing for war. Many reasons are put forward as to why it is necessary to kill people; and there are also many reasons for not killing. But do not be swept away by any reasoning; because today you may have a good reason for not killing and tomorrow you may have a much stronger reason for killing. First see the truth of it, feel how essential it is not to kill. REGARDLESS OF WHAT MAY BE SAID BY OTHERS, FROM THE HIGHEST AUTHORITY TO THE LOWEST, FIND OUT FOR YOURSELF THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER; AND WHEN YOU ARE INWARDLY CLEAR ABOUT THAT, THEN YOU CAN REASON OUT THE DETAILS. But do not start with a reason, because every reason can be met by a counter-reason and you will be caught in the net of reasoning. The important thing is to see directly for yourself what the truth is; and then you can begin to use reason. When you perceive for yourself what is true; when you know that to kill another is not love; when you inwardly feel the truth that there must be no enmity in your relationship with another, then no amount of reasoning can destroy that truth. Then no politician, no priest, no parent can sacrifice you for an idea or for his own safety. The old have always sacrificed the young; and will you in your turn, as you grow older, also sacrifice the young? Do you not want to put an end to this sacrifice? Because it is the most destructive way of living, it is one of the greatest factors of human deterioration. To put an end to it, you as an individual have to find out the truth for yourself. WITHOUT BELONGING TO ANY GROUP OR ORGANIZATION, YOU HAVE TO DISCOVER THE TRUTH OF NOT KILLING OF FEELING LOVE, OF HAVING NO ENMITY. THEN NO AMOUNT OF WORDS, NO CUNNING REASONS CAN EVER PERSUADE YOU TO KILL OR TO SACRIFICE ANOTHER. SO IT IS VERY IMPORTANT, WHILE YOU ARE YOUNG, TO THINK OUT, TO FEEL OUT THESE THINGS FOR YOURSELF, AND THEREBY LAY THE FOUNDATION FOR THE DISCOVERY OF TRUTH. ―⁈ Q.: WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF CREATION? ☀ K.: Are you really interested in that? What do you mean by 'creation'? What is the purpose of living? Why do you exist, read, study, pass examinations? What is the purpose of relationship - the relationship of parents and children, of husband and wife? What is life? Is that what you mean when you ask this question, "What is the purpose of creation?" When do you ask such a question? When inwardly you do not see clearly, when you are confused, miserable, in the dark, when you do not perceive or feel the truth of the matter for yourself, then you want to know what is the purpose of life. Now, there are many people who will tell you the purpose of life; they will tell you what the sacred books say. Clever people will go on inventing various purposes of life. The political group will have one purpose, the religious group will have another, and so on and on. And how are you to find out what is the purpose of life when you yourself are confused? Surely, as long as you are confused, you can only receive an answer which is also confused. If your mind is disturbed, if it is not really quiet, whatever answer you receive will be through this screen of confusion, anxiety, fear; therefore the answer will be perverted. SO THE IMPORTANT THING IS NOT TO ASK WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF LIFE, BUT TO CLEAR AWAY THE CONFUSION THAT IS WITHIN YOU. It is like a blind man asking, "What is light?" If I try to tell him what light is, he will listen according to his blindness, according to his darkness; but from the moment he is able to see, he will never ask what is light. It is there. Similarly, IF YOU CAN CLARIFY THE CONFUSION WITHIN YOURSELF, THEN YOU WILL FIND OUT WHAT THE PURPOSE OF LIFE IS; you will not have to ask, you will not have to look for it. To be free of confusion you have to see and understand the causes which bring about confusion; and the causes of confusion are very clear. They are rooted in the 'me' that is constantly wanting to expand itself through possessing, through becoming, through success, THROUGH IMITATION; AND THE SYMPTOMS ARE JEALOUSY, ENVY, GREED, FEAR. AS LONG AS THERE IS THIS INWARD CONFUSION, YOU ARE ALWAYS SEEKING OUTWARD ANSWERS; BUT WHEN THE INWARD CONFUSION IS CLEARED AWAY, THEN YOU WILL KNOW THE SIGNIFICANCE OF LIFE. ☀ đŸ•Šïž 🙏Sadhu ! Sadhu ! Sadhu ! 🙏 đŸ•ŠïžAmong others it is used to express shared joy, moral approval, and spiritual agreement. Also means « excellent, well done, or it is good.» - «Amen or Hallelujah» J.K. Krishnamurti |❖Mindfulness € Self Mastery € Spirituality € Mental Clarity € Attachment Free ❖| ―🙏― 📖 VERSION FRANÇAISE 📖 đŸ•ŠïžOn LinkedIn « New Post » 630- 🙏FR | Jiddu Krishnamurti |❖ Pour une COMPRÉHENSION OPTIMALE, LIRE avec ATTENTION le texte au complet « du DĂ©but Ă  la Fin » ❖| Causerie - Face Ă  la vie ☀ La vie ☀ 16 LA VÉRITÉ ☀ On peut tuer d'un mot aussi bien que physiquement, et lĂ  n'a jamais rĂ©solu aucun problĂšme. La guerre n'a jamais guĂ©ri nos maux Ă©conomiques ou sociaux, ni a-t-elle jamais amenĂ© une comprĂ©hension mutuelle dans les relations humaines; et pourtant le monde entier se prĂ©pare Ă  la guerre, depuis longtemps, sans arrĂȘt. Certaines personnes donnent Ă  cela beaucoup de raisons, d'autres avancent des raisons contraires pour ne pas tuer, mais ne vous laissez pas entraĂźner Ă  des discussions sur ce sujet, car vous pourriez aujourd'hui vous convaincre par des arguments qu'il ne faut pas tuer et demain vous persuader par des arguments contraires que la guerre est nĂ©cessaire. Voyez plutĂŽt la vĂ©ritĂ©, sentez combien il est essentiel de ne pas tuer, NE TENEZ AUCUN COMPTE DE CE QU'EN DISENT LES PLUS HAUTES AUTORITÉS OU LES PLUS PETITES. LORSQUE VOUS VERREZ CLAIREMENT LA VÉRITÉ, VOUS POURREZ ALORS EN DISCUTER LES DÉTAILS. Mais ne commencez pas par argumenter, parce que tout raisonnement peut ĂȘtre contredit par un raisonnement inverse et vous vous Ă©gareriez dans cette argumentation. Si vous savez que tuer ne comporte aucun amour; si vous sentez qu'il ne faut aucune inimitiĂ© dans les relations humaines; alors aucun raisonnement ne pourra dĂ©truire cette perception, aucun politicien, aucun prĂȘtre, aucun parent ne pourra vous sacrifier pour une idĂ©e ou pour sa sĂ©curitĂ©. Les vieux ont toujours sacrifiĂ© les jeunes; et Ă  votre tour, en ferez-vous autant, plus tard? Ne voulez-vous pas mettre fin Ă  ces sacrifices? Car c'est le mode de vie le plus destructeur, c'est un des plus grands facteurs de dĂ©tĂ©rioration. Il faut y mettre fin. CHACUN DE VOUS, EN TANT QU'INDIVIDU NON AFFILIÉ À UN GROUPE OU À UNE ORGANISATION, DOIT VOIR PERSONNELLEMENT CE QU'IL Y A DE VRAI DANS LE FAIT DE NE PAS TUER, D'AIMER, DE N'AVOIR PAS D'INIMITIÉS. ALORS AUCUN DISCOURS, AUCUN RAISONNEMENT NE POURRONT JAMAIS VOUS INCITER À TUER OU À SACRIFIER QUI QUE CE SOIT. IL EST IMPORTANT QUE VOUS PENSIEZ À TOUT CELA ÉTANT JEUNES, ET QUE VOUS ÉTABLISSIEZ AINSI LES BASES DE LA DÉCOUVERTE DE LA VÉRITÉ. Q.: QUEL EST LE BUT DE LA CRÉATION? ☀ K.: Cela vous intĂ©resse vraiment? Que voulez-vous dire par « crĂ©ation »? Vous voulez savoir quel est le but de la vie? Pourquoi vous existez? Pourquoi vous Ă©tudiez et passez des examens? Quel est le but des relations humaines? Ce qu'est la vie? Est-ce Ă  cela que vous pensez lorsque vous demandez quel est le but de la CrĂ©ation? On pose une pareille question lorsqu'on ne voit pas soi-mĂȘme la vĂ©ritĂ© en cette affaire, lorsqu'on est dans un Ă©tat de confusion, lorsqu'on est dans les tĂ©nĂšbres. Vous trouverez beaucoup de personnes pour vous dire quel est le but de la vie; elles citeront des livres sacrĂ©s, ou inventeront des explications. Des groupes politiques vous diront ce qu'ils en pensent, des groupes religieux dĂ©fendront d'autres principes, et ainsi de suite. Et comment apprendrez-vous quel est le but de la vie? Tant que vous serez dans un Ă©tat de confusion, vous ne pourrez concevoir que des raisons confuses. Si votre esprit est agitĂ©, s'il n'est pas vraiment silencieux, vous recevrez toutes les rĂ©ponses que l'on vous donnera Ă  travers l'Ă©cran de votre angoisse et de votre peur; cette rĂ©ponse sera donc pervertie. L'IMPORTANT N'EST PAS DE DEMANDER QUEL EST LE BUT DE LA VIE, MAIS DE DÉBLAYER LA CONFUSION QUI EST EN VOUS. Si un aveugle vous demandait ce qu'est la lumiĂšre, il traduirait votre rĂ©ponse en termes de cĂ©citĂ©, selon ses tĂ©nĂšbres; mais s'il voyait soudain, il ne poserait pas la question; la lumiĂšre serait lĂ . De mĂȘme, si vous sortiez de votre Ă©tat de confusion, vous ne demanderiez pas quel est le but de la vie. POUR EN SORTIR, IL VOUS FAUT DÉCOUVRIR ET COMPRENDRE LES CAUSES DE CETTE CONFUSION. EN FAIT, ELLES SONT TRÈS VISIBLES. Elles sont enracinĂ©es dans le « moi » qui cherche toujours Ă  s'amplifier dans un « devenir », au moyen de possessions, de rĂ©ussites, de conformismes. ET LEURS SYMPTÔMES SONT LA JALOUSIE, L'ENVIE, L'AVIDITÉ, LA PEUR. TANT QU'EXISTE CETTE CONFUSION INTÉRIEURE, ON CHERCHE DES RÉPONSES À L'EXTÉRIEUR. ÉLIMINEZ-LA ET VOUS SAUREZ LE SENS QU'A LA VIE. ☀ đŸ•Šïž 🙏 Sadhu ! Sadhu ! Sadhu ! 🙏 đŸ•Šïž UtilisĂ© entre autres pour exprimer une joie partagĂ©e de dĂ©votion, une approbation des valeurs morales et spirituelles. Aussi une expression d’accord et d’éloge, signifiant « excellent, bien, bon » – « Amen » ou « AllĂ©luia » J.K. Krishnamurti |❖ Pleine Conscience € MaĂźtrise de Soi € SpiritualitĂ© € ClartĂ© Mentale € Non-attachement ❖|
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629- 🙏 ENG | Jiddu Krishnamurti 💛PUBLICATION : Version Française aprĂšs la Version Anglaise💛 |❖ For OPTIMAL UNDERSTANDING Read the whole text with ATTENTION ❖| Public Talk - Life Ahead ☀ LIFE ☀ THE TRUTH ☀ WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE DETERIORATING FACTORS IN HUMAN EXISTENCE, AND WE SAID THAT FEAR IS ONE OF THE FUNDAMENTAL CAUSES OF THIS DETERIORATION. WE ALSO SAID THAT THE FOLLOWING OF AUTHORITY IN ANY FORM, WHETHER SELF-IMPOSED OR ESTABLISHED FROM OUTSIDE, AS WELL AS ANY FORM OF IMITATION, COPYING, IS DESTRUCTIVE OF INCENTIVE, OF CREATIVENESS, AND THAT IT BLOCKS THE DISCOVERY OF WHAT IS TRUE. TRUTH IS NOT SOMETHING THAT CAN BE FOLLOWED; IT HAS TO BE DISCOVERED. You cannot find truth through any book or through any accumulation of experience. As we discussed the other day, when experience becomes a remembrance, that remembrance destroys creative understanding. Any feeling of malice or envy, however slight it may be, is also destructive of this creative understanding without which there is no happiness. Happiness is not to be bought, nor does it come when you go after it; but it is there when there is no conflict. Now, is it not very important, especially while we are still in school, to begin to understand the significance of words? The word, the symbol has become an extraordinarily destructive thing for most of us, and of this we are unaware. Do you know what I mean by the symbol? The symbol is the shadow of truth. The gramophone record, for example, is not the real voice; but the voice has been put on the record, and to this we listen. The word, the symbol, the image, the idea is not the truth; but we worship the image, we revere the symbol, we give great significance to the word, and all this is very destructive; because then the word, the symbol, the image becomes all-important. That is how temples, churches, and the various organized religions with their symbols, beliefs and dogmas, become factors which prevent the mind from going beyond and discovering the truth. So do not be caught up in words, in symbols, which automatically cultivate habit. Habit is a most destructive factor, because when you want to think creatively, habit comes in the way. Perhaps you do not understand the whole significance of what I am saying; but you will, if you think about it. Go for a walk by yourself occasionally and think out these things. Find out what is meant by words like 'life', 'God', 'duty', 'cooperation' - all those extraordinary words which we use so freely. Have you ever asked yourself what 'duty' means? Duty to what? To the aged, to what tradition says: that you must sacrifice yourself for your parents, for your country, for your gods. That word 'duty' has become extraordinarily significant to you, has it not? It is pregnant with a lot of meaning which is imposed upon you. You are taught that you have a duty to your country, to your gods, to your neighbour; but what is much more important than the word 'duty' is to find out for yourself what the truth is. Your parents and society use that word 'duty' as a means of moulding you, shaping you according to their particular idiosyncrasies, their habits of thought, their likes and dislikes, hoping thereby to guarantee their own safety. So take time, be patient, analyze, go into all this and find out for yourself what is true. Do not merely accept the word 'duty', for where there is 'duty', there is no love. Similarly, take the word 'co-operation. The State wants you to co-operate with it. If you co-operate with something without understanding, you are merely imitating, copying. But if you understand, if you find out the truth of something, then in co-operating you are living with it, moving with it; it is part of you. So it is very necessary to be aware of the words, the symbols, the images that are crippling your thinking. To be aware of them and to find out whether you can go beyond them is essential if you are to live creatively, without disintegrating. You know, we allow the word 'duty' to kill us. The idea that you have a duty to parents, to relations, to the country, sacrifices you. It makes you go out to fight, to kill, and to be killed or maimed. The politician, the leader says it is necessary to destroy others in order to protect the community, the country, the ideology or way of life; so killing becomes part of your duty, and you are soon drawn into the military spirit. The military spirit makes you obedient, it makes you physically very disciplined; but inwardly your mind is gradually destroyed because you are imitating, following, copying. You become a mere tool of the older people, of the politician, an instrument of propaganda. You come to accept killing to protect your country as inevitable because somebody says it is necessary. But no matter who says it is necessary, should you not think it out very clearly for yourself? To kill is obviously the most destructive and corrupt action in life, especially to kill another human being; because when you kill, you are full of hatred, however much you may rationalize it, and you also create antagonism in others. ☀ đŸ•Šïž 🙏 Sadhu ! Sadhu ! Sadhu ! 🙏 đŸ•Šïž Among others it is used to express shared joy, moral approval, and spiritual agreement. Also means « excellent, well done, or it is good.» - «Amen or Hallelujah» J.K. Krishnamurti |❖ Mindfulness € Self Mastery € Spirituality € Mental Clarity € Attachment Free ❖| ―🙏― 📖 VERSION FRANÇAISE 📖 đŸ•ŠïžOn LinkedIn « New Post » 629- 🙏FR | Jiddu Krishnamurti |❖ Pour une COMPRÉHENSION OPTIMALE, LIRE avec ATTENTION le texte au complet « du DĂ©but Ă  la Fin » ❖| Causerie - Face Ă  la vie ☀ La vie ☀ 16 LA VÉRITÉ ☀ NOUS AVONS PARLÉ DE LA DÉTÉRIORATION DE LA CONDITION HUMAINE ET NOUS AVONS VU QUE LA PEUR EN EST UNE DES PRINCIPALES CAUSES. NOUS AVONS DIT AUSSI QUE SE SOUMETTRE À UNE AUTORITÉ - IMPOSÉE PAR SOI-MÊME OU AGISSANT DE L'EXTÉRIEUR - DE MÊME QU'IMITER, COPIER, DÉTRUIT LE SENS CRÉATEUR ET BLOQUE LA DÉCOUVERTE DE CE QUI EST VRAI. LA VÉRITÉ NE PEUT PAS AVOIR DE DISCIPLINES; ELLE DOIT ÊTRE DÉCOUVERTE; on ne la trouve ni dans des livres ni au moyen d'une accumulation d'expĂ©riences. Ainsi que nous l'avons vu l'autre jour, lorsque l'expĂ©rience devient une mĂ©moire, elle dĂ©truit la comprĂ©hension crĂ©atrice. Tout sentiment de malveillance ou d'envie, quelque lĂ©ger qu'il soit, dĂ©truit aussi cette comprĂ©hension crĂ©atrice sans laquelle il n'y a pas de bonheur. Le bonheur ne peut pas ĂȘtre achetĂ© et ne se prĂ©sente pas lorsqu'on le poursuit; mais il est lĂ  lorsqu'on n'a pas de conflits intĂ©rieurs. Lorsqu'on parle de vĂ©ritĂ© et de comprĂ©hension, il est trĂšs important de commencer par comprendre la signification rĂ©elle des mots. Les mots, les symboles sont destructeurs pour la plupart des esprits, bien qu'on ne s'en rende pas compte. Un symbole n'est jamais que l'ombre de la vĂ©ritĂ©. De mĂȘme qu'un disque de gramophone n'est pas la voix elle-mĂȘme qui a Ă©tĂ© enregistrĂ©e, le mot, le symbole, l'image, l'idĂ©e, ne sont pas la vĂ©ritĂ©. Mais nous adorons l'image, nous vĂ©nĂ©rons le symbole, nous accordons une trĂšs grande valeur au mot, et cette importance que nous leur attribuons s'amplifie jusqu'Ă  nous dĂ©truire. C'est ainsi que les temples et les Ă©glises et toutes les religions organisĂ©es, avec leurs symboles, leurs croyances et leurs dogmes, empĂȘchent l'esprit d'aller plus loin et de dĂ©couvrir la vĂ©ritĂ©. Ne vous laissez donc pas prendre par des mots et des symboles: automatiquement, ils font tomber dans des habitudes et les habitudes sont des facteurs de grande destruction, car elles font obstacle Ă  toute pensĂ©e crĂ©atrice. Peut-ĂȘtre ne comprenez-vous pas toute la portĂ©e de ce que je dis. Mais vous le comprendrez si vous y pensez. Allez parfois vous promener solitairement et tĂąchez de penser Ă  ce que veulent dire certains mots extraordinaires tels que Vie, Dieu, Devoir, Collaboration, qu'on emploie si facilement. Vous ĂȘtes-vous jamais demandĂ© ce que veut dire « devoir »? Devoir envers qui? Envers les vieillards et la tradition? Cela veut dire que vous devez vous sacrifier pour vos parents, votre pays, vos dieux. Ce mot « devoir » est devenu trĂšs important pour vous; il est lourd de significations qui vous sont imposĂ©es. Mais ce qui serait plus important serait que vous dĂ©couvriez la vĂ©ritĂ© qui se cache dans ce sentiment. Vos parents et la SociĂ©tĂ© vous enseignent vos « devoirs » envers vos dieux ou vos voisins dans le but de vous former, de vous façonner conformĂ©ment Ă  leurs tempĂ©raments, Ă  leur façon de penser, Ă  leurs goĂ»ts individuels. Ils espĂšrent ainsi garantir leur propre sĂ©curitĂ©. Preniez donc le temps qu'il faut, soyez patients, analysez cette question, pĂ©nĂ©trez-la et voyez par vous-mĂȘme oĂč est la vĂ©ritĂ©. Ne vous contentez pas d'accepter le mot « devoir ». OĂč est le devoir, il n'y a pas d'amour. De mĂȘme, considĂ©rez le mot « collaboration ». L'État vous demande de « collaborer » avec lui. Or collaborer sans comprendre c'est imiter, copier, mais comprendre c'est trouver la vĂ©ritĂ© de l'action qu'on engage, donc vivre avec elle, se mouvoir avec elle, et cette action devient une partie de soi-mĂȘme. Il est donc trĂšs important d'ĂȘtre conscient des mots, des symboles, des images qui mutilent la pensĂ©e. En ĂȘtre conscient et savoir si on peut les transcender est essentiel si on veut vivre d'une vie crĂ©atrice, sans se dĂ©sintĂ©grer. Nous permettons au mot « devoir » de nous tuer. Vos idĂ©es concernant vos devoirs envers vos parents, votre nation, votre pays, vous sacrifient, vous envoient vous battre. Pour elles, vous tuez et vous vous faites tuer. Les politiciens, les chefs de partis, proclament que c'est nĂ©cessaire pour protĂ©ger la communautĂ©, le pays, une idĂ©ologie ou un mode de vie. À cet effet on vous inculque l'esprit militaire. Cette discipline vous dĂ©truit car elle vous habitue Ă  copier, Ă  imiter. Vous n'ĂȘtes plus que des instruments obĂ©issants entre les mains des personnes ĂągĂ©es, pour appuyer leurs propagandes. Vous en venez Ă  penser que tuer pour votre pays est inĂ©vitable, parce que d'autres le disent. Mais qu'importe la personne qui le dit ! Ne devriez-vous pas penser par vous-mĂȘmes? Tuer est, manifestement, l'action la plus destructrice et corrompue qui soit, surtout s'il s'agit d'ĂȘtres humains. Lorsqu'on tue, on est plein de haine, mĂȘme si on la rationalise, et on suscite un antagonisme chez les autres. ☀ đŸ•Šïž 🙏 Sadhu ! Sadhu ! Sadhu ! 🙏 đŸ•Šïž UtilisĂ© entre autres pour exprimer une joie partagĂ©e de dĂ©votion, une approbation des valeurs morales et spirituelles. Aussi une expression d’accord et d’éloge, signifiant « excellent, bien, bon » – « Amen » ou « AllĂ©luia » J.K. Krishnamurti |❖ Pleine Conscience € MaĂźtrise de Soi € SpiritualitĂ© € ClartĂ© Mentale € Non-attachement ❖|
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|❖ INSIGHT € PROFOUND VISION € ONE TRUTH ❖| #Buddha’s Teachings Homage to the Blessed One, the Arahant, the Perfectly Enlightened One Anguttara Nikaya Discourses of the Buddha ☀ The numerical Discourses of the Buddha Aáč…guttaraNikaya AN 33 The Book of the Ones by Bhikkhu Bodhi ―☀ XX. The Deathless ☀― 616 (1) “Bhikkhus, they do not partake of the deathless who do not partake of mindfulness directed to the body. They partake of the deathless who partake of mindfulness directed to the body.” 617 (2) “Bhikkhus, the deathless has not been partaken of by those who have not partaken of mindfulness directed to the body. The deathless has been partaken of by those who have partaken of mindfulness directed to the body.” 618 (3) “Bhikkhus, they have fallen away from the deathless who have fallen away from mindfulness directed to the body. They have not fallen away from the deathless who have not fallen away from mindfulness directed to the body.” ―☀― TEXT-IMAGE ―☀ The Book of the Ones - THE DEATHLESS ☀― Cont. 619 (4) “Bhikkhus, they have neglected the deathless who have neglected mindfulness directed to the body. They have undertaken the deathless who have undertaken mindfulness directed to the body.” 620 (5) “Bhikkhus, they are heedless about the deathless who are heedless about mindfulness directed to the body. They are not heedless about the deathless who are not heedless about mindfulness directed to the body.” 621 (6) “Bhikkhus, they have forgotten the deathless who have forgotten mindfulness directed to the body. They have not forgotten the deathless who have not forgotten mindfulness directed to the body.” 622 (7) “Bhikkhus, they have not pursued the deathless who have not pursued mindfulness directed to the body. They have pursued the deathless who have pursued mindfulness directed to the body.” 623 (8) “Bhikkhus, they have not developed the deathless who have not developed mindfulness directed to the body. They have developed the deathless who have developed mindfulness directed to the body.” 624 (9) “Bhikkhus, they have not cultivated the deathless who have not cultivated mindfulness directed to the body. They have cultivated the deathless who have cultivated mindfulness directed to the body.” 625 (10) “Bhikkhus, they have not directly known the deathless who have not directly known mindfulness directed to the body. They have directly known the deathless who have directly known mindfulness directed to the body.” 626 (11) “Bhikkhus, they have not fully understood the deathless who have not fully understood mindfulness directed to the body. They have fully understood the deathless who have fully understood mindfulness directed to the body.” 627 (12) “Bhikkhus, they have not realized the deathless who have not realized mindfulness directed to the body. They have realized the deathless who have realized mindfulness directed to the body.” The Book of the Ones is finished. Cont.: ―☀The Book of the Ones is finished. ☀― An EXTRA Post on Jhanas Tomorrow’s Post Buddha |❖ Mindfulness € Self Mastery € Spirituality € Mental Clarity € Attachment Free ❖|
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1/8 INTRO : Texte ❖ Anglais ❖Français ❖ Espagnol ❖ Quotes on Joy ❖ Citations sur la Joie ❖ Citas sobre la AlegrĂ­a « Elisabeth KĂŒbler-Ross - Scribner, 1997 » ❖ Eng. ❖ The Wheel of Life: A Memoir of Living and Dying. This life of mine, which began Halfway around the world, has been many things — but never easy. That is a fact, not a complaint. I have learned there is no joy without hardship. There is no pleasure without pain. Would we know the comfort of peace without the distress of war? If not for AIDS, would we notice our humanity is in jeopardy? If not for death, would we appreciate life? If not for hate, would we know the ultimate goal is love? ―☀― TEXT-IMAGE Eng. ❖ The most beautiful people we have known are those who have known defeat, known suffering, known struggle, known loss, and have found their way out of the depths. These persons have an appreciation, a sensitivity, and an understanding of life that fills them with compassion, gentleness, and a deep loving concern. Beautiful people do not just happen. « There is no Joy without hardship. » ❖❖❖❖ Fr. ❖ La Roue de la vie : MĂ©moires sur la vie et la mort. Ma vie, qui a commencĂ© Ă  l’autre bout du monde, a Ă©tĂ© particuliĂšrement riche, mais jamais facile. C'est une constatation, je ne m'en plains pas. J'ai appris que l’on ne peut connaĂźtre de bonheur sans traverser des pĂ©riodes difficiles. Il n’y a pas de plaisir sans souffrance. Pourrait-on concevoir le bonheur de la paix sans la dĂ©tresse de la guerre ? Sans le sida, aurait-on compris que l’humanitĂ© est en danger? Sans la mort, pourrait-on apprĂ©cier la vie? Sans la haine, aurions-nous compris que le but suprĂȘme est l'amour? ―☀― TEXTE-IMAGE Fr. ❖ Les personnes les plus formidables sont celles qui ont connu l'Ă©chec, la souffrance, le combat intĂ©rieur, la perte et qui ont surmontĂ© leur dĂ©tresse. Ces personnes ont une sensibilitĂ©, une comprĂ©hension de la vie qui les remplit de compassion, de douceur et d'amour. La bontĂ© ne vient jamais de nulle part... « Il n'y a pas de Joie sans Ă©preuves. » ❖❖❖❖ Esp. ❖ La rueda de la vida: Memorias sobre la vida y la muerte. Esta vida mĂ­a, que comenzara a muchos miles de kilĂłmetros, ha sido muchas cosas, pero jamĂĄs fĂĄcil. Esto es una realidad, no una queja. He aprendido que no hay dicha sin contratiempos. No hay placer sin dolor. ÂżConocerĂ­amos el goce de la paz sin la angustia de la guerra? Si no fuera por el sida, Âżnos darĂ­amos cuenta de que el mundo estĂĄ en peligro? Si no fuera por la muerte, ÂżvalorarĂ­amos la vida? Si no fuera por el odio, ÂżsabrĂ­amos que el objetivo Ășltimo es el amor? ―☀― TEXTO-IMAGEN Esp. ❖ Las personas mĂĄs bellas que hemos conocido son aquellas que han conocido la derrota, el sufrimiento, la lucha, la pĂ©rdida, y han encontrado el camino para salir de las profundidades. Estas personas tienen un aprecio, una sensibilidad y una comprensiĂłn de la vida que les llena de compasiĂłn, dulzura y una profunda preocupaciĂłn amorosa. Las personas bellas no surgen de la nada. « No hay AlegrĂ­a sin dificultades. »
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You're welcome Etienne and merci for your very kind words 🙇 Jiddu was right. As for the questions of... "When you label, is the feeling different from the label? Or does the label awaken the feeling?" To the 1st question: Thoughts are comprised of different subtle energy than feelings/emotions, so yes, the label/thought feels different than the emotion. To the 2nd question: The label typically manifests or activates emotions due to subjective thoughts about whatever the label refers to. Such thoughts are what the old, conditioned mind is comprised of. As for Buddha's wise words, yes, the mind needs to be trained. So long as there are conditioned/subjective thoughts in the mind, including those one isn't conscious of, feelings/emotions can and will arise. It's what happens when people experience an emotions but do not know why. I've used this in the past to get at the thoughts that manifested the emotions for they're intrinsically connected. This is also why we can come to KNow the thoughts that manifested them when we end the separation Jiddu spoke of by having a quiet mind and being fully attentive. The noisier/messier one's mind is the harder this is to do. However, Buddha knew that energy follows attention so when we do as he suggested by the below quote we are actually retraining our non-conscious/subconscious mind: "'I will develop and cultivate the liberation of the mind by compassion the liberation of the mind by altruistic joy . . . the liberation of the mind by equanimity, make it a vehicle and basis, carry it out, consolidate it, and properly undertake it. Thus should you train yourself." Thank you my friend, I am enjoying every moment and may you as well 😊🙏 🙏 Metta 🙏
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628- 🙏 ENG | Jiddu Krishnamurti 💛PUBLICATION : Version Française aprĂšs la Version Anglaise💛 |❖ For OPTIMAL UNDERSTANDING Read the whole text with ATTENTION ❖| Public Talk - Life Ahead ☀ LIFE ☀ UNDERSTANDING FREES THE MIND ☀ ―⁈ Q.: CAN WE NOT CULTIVATE UNDERSTANDING? When we constantly try to understand, does it not mean that we are practicing understanding? ☀ K.: Is understanding cultivable? Is it something to be practised as you practice tennis, or the piano, or singing, or dancing? You can read a book over and over again till you are thoroughly familiar with it. Is understanding like that, something to be learned through constant repetition, which is really the cultivation of memory? Is not understanding from moment to moment, and therefore something that cannot be practised? WHEN DO YOU UNDERSTAND? WHAT IS THE STATE OF YOUR MIND AND HEART WHEN THERE IS UNDERSTANDING? When you hear me say something very true about jealousy - that jealousy is destructive, that envy is a major factor in the deterioration of human relationship - , how do you respond to it? Do you see the truth of it immediately? Or do you begin to think about jealousy, to talk about it, rationalize it, analyze it? Is understanding a process of either rationalization or slow analysis? Can understanding be cultivated as you cultivate your garden to produce fruits or flowers? SURELY, TO UNDERSTAND IS TO SEE THE TRUTH OF SOMETHING DIRECTLY, WITHOUT ANY BARRIER OF WORDS, PREJUDICES OR MOTIVES. ―⁈ Q.: IS THE POWER OF UNDERSTANDING THE SAME IN ALL PERSONS? ☀ K.: Suppose something true is presented to you and you see the truth of it very quickly; your understanding is immediate because you have no barriers. YOU ARE NOT FULL OF YOUR OWN IMPORTANCE, YOU ARE EAGER TO FIND OUT, SO YOU PERCEIVE IMMEDIATELY. But I HAVE MANY BARRIERS, many prejudices. I am jealous torn by conflicts based upon envy, full of my own importance. I have accumulated many things in life, and I really do not want to see; therefore I DO NOT SEE, I DO NOT UNDERSTAND. ―⁈ Q.: CAN'T ONE REMOVE THE BARRIERS SLOWLY BY CONSTANTLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND? ☀ K.: NO. I CAN REMOVE THE BARRIERS, NOT BY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, BUT ONLY WHEN I REALLY FEEL THE IMPORTANCE OF NOT HAVING BARRIERS - which means that I must be willing to see the barriers. Suppose you and I hear someone say that envy is destructive. You listen and understand the significance, the truth of it, and you are free of that feeling of envy, of jealousy. But I do not want to see the truth of it, because if I did it would destroy my whole structure of life. ―⁈ Q.: I FEEL THE NECESSITY OF REMOVING THE BARRIERS. ☀ K.: Why do you feel that? Do you want to remove the barriers because of circumstances? Do you want to remove them because somebody has told you that you should? Surely, the barriers are removed only when you see for yourself that to have barriers of any kind creates a mind which is in a state of slow decay. And when do you see this? When you suffer? But does suffering necessarily awaken you to the importance of removing all barriers? Or does it, on the contrary, lead you to create more barriers? YOU WILL FIND THAT ALL BARRIERS DROP AWAY WHEN YOU YOURSELF ARE BEGINNING TO LISTEN, TO OBSERVE, TO FIND OUT. There is no reason for removing the barriers; and the moment you bring in a reason, you are not removing them. The miracle, the greatest blessing is to give your own inward perception an opportunity to remove the barriers. But when you say that the barriers must be removed and then practice removing them, that is the work of the mind; and the mind cannot remove the barriers. You must see that no attempt on your part can remove them. Then the mind becomes very quiet, very still; and in this stillness you discover that which is true. ☀ đŸ•Šïž 🙏Sadhu ! Sadhu ! Sadhu ! 🙏 đŸ•ŠïžAmong others it is used to express shared joy, moral approval, and spiritual agreement. Also means « excellent, well done, or it is good.»- «Amen or Hallelujah» J.K. Krishnamurti |❖Mindfulness € Self Mastery € Spirituality € Mental Clarity € Attachment Free ❖| ―🙏― 📖 VERSION FRANÇAISE 📖 đŸ•ŠïžOn LinkedIn « New Post » 628- 🙏FR | Jiddu Krishnamurti |❖ Pour une COMPRÉHENSION OPTIMALE, LIRE avec ATTENTION le texte au complet « du DĂ©but Ă  la Fin » ❖| Causerie - Face Ă  la vie ☀ La vie ☀ 15 LA COMPRÉHENSION EST CRÉATRICE☀ Q.: PEUT-ON CULTIVER L'INTELLIGENCE? Lorsqu'on s'efforce tout le temps de comprendre, n'est-on pas dĂ©jĂ  intelligent? ☀ K.: L'intelligence peut-elle se cultiver? Peut-on s'y exercer comme on s'exerce au tennis, au piano ou Ă  la danse? On peut lire un livre un grand nombre de fois, jusqu'Ă  le connaĂźtre par cƓur. Peut-on, de la mĂȘme façon, s'exercer Ă  comprendre, ou la rĂ©pĂ©tition ne dĂ©veloppe-t-elle pas simplement la mĂ©moire? Comprendre n'est-ce pas un acte qui se produit d'instant en instant et auquel, par consĂ©quent, on ne peut pas s'exercer? LORSQUE SE PRODUIT L'ACTE DE COMPRÉHENSION, DANS QUEL ÉTAT D'ESPRIT EST-ON? Lorsque vous m'entendez dire une vĂ©ritĂ© au sujet de l'envie: qu'elle dĂ©truit, qu'elle est un des principaux facteurs de dĂ©tĂ©rioration dans les rapports humains, quelles sont vos rĂ©actions? Voyez-vous cette vĂ©ritĂ© immĂ©diatement, ou commencez-vous Ă  disserter sur la jalousie, Ă  la rationaliser, Ă  l'analyser? Pensez-vous cultiver ainsi la comprĂ©hension, Ă  la façon dont on cultive un jardin? COMPRENDRE C'EST VOIR UNE VÉRITÉ DIRECTEMENT, SANS AUCUNE BARRIÈRE DE MOTS, DE PRÉJUGÉS, DE MOTIFS. Q.: LA CAPACITÉ DE COMPRENDRE EST-ELLE LA MÊME POUR TOUT LE MONDE? ☀ K.: Supposez qu'on vous prĂ©sente une vĂ©ritĂ© et que VOUS LA VOYIEZ IMMÉDIATEMENT PARCE QU'IL N'Y A PAS DE BARRIÈRES EN VOUS: vous n'ĂȘtes pas imbu de votre importance, vous voulez rĂ©ellement comprendre. Mais SUPPOSEZ QUE J'AIE, MOI, DES BARRIÈRES TELLES QUE DES PRÉJUGÉS, que je sois jaloux, dĂ©chirĂ© par les conflits de l'envie et le sens de mon importance: ayant beaucoup accumulĂ© au cours de mon existence, JE NE VEUX PAS « VOIR », DONC JE NE VOIS PAS, JE NE COMPRENDS PAS. Q.: NE PEUT-ON PAS ÉLIMINER LES BARRIÈRES GRADUELLEMENT, EN ESSAYANT DE COMPRENDRE? ☀ K.: Non. CE N'EST PAS EN ESSAYANT DE COMPRENDRE QUE JE PEUX ÉLIMINER MES BARRIÈRES, MAIS EN VOYANT L'IMPORTANCE DE NE PAS EN AVOIR, ce qui veut dire que je dois ĂȘtre disposĂ© Ă  les « voir ». Il se peut qu'en entendant dire que l'envie est destructive, vous compreniez la vĂ©ritĂ© et l'importance de cette affirmation, et que vous soyez aussitĂŽt libĂ©rĂ© de ce sentiment, mais qu'un autre ne veuille pas voir cette vĂ©ritĂ©, car s'il la voyait, elle dĂ©truirait toute la structure de son existence. Q.: JE SENS LA NÉCESSITÉ D'ÉLIMINER CES BARRIÈRES. ☀ K.: Pourquoi sentez-vous cela? Parce que vous venez d'en entendre parler? Parce que vous souffrez? Mais les barriĂšres ne s'Ă©liminent que lorsqu'on voit directement, soi-mĂȘme, qu'elles produisent dans l'esprit un Ă©tat de dĂ©composition lente. Et quand voit-on cela? Quand on souffre? La souffrance Ă©veille-t-elle la nĂ©cessitĂ© d'Ă©liminer les barriĂšres de l'esprit ou n'incite-t-elle pas, au contraire, Ă  en crĂ©er de nouvelles? VOUS VERREZ QU'ELLES TOMBERONT D'ELLES-MÊMES LORSQUE VOUS COMMENCEREZ À VOUS OBSERVER RÉELLEMENT. Tant que vous vous donnez des raisons de les dĂ©molir, vous les maintenez. Le miracle, la vraie bĂ©nĂ©diction consiste Ă  donner Ă  votre perception intĂ©rieure l'occasion de les faire disparaĂźtre. Mais dĂšs que vous pensez qu'il est nĂ©cessaire de les Ă©liminer, c'est votre pensĂ©e qui cherche Ă  le faire, et elle n'y arrivera jamais. Vous devez donc voir qu'aucune tentative de votre part ne pourra rĂ©ussir. Alors votre esprit se calmera, deviendra silencieux, et dans ce silence vous dĂ©couvrirez ce qui est vrai. ☀ đŸ•Šïž 🙏 Sadhu ! Sadhu ! Sadhu ! 🙏 đŸ•Šïž UtilisĂ© entre autres pour exprimer une joie partagĂ©e de dĂ©votion, une approbation des valeurs morales et spirituelles. Aussi une expression d’accord et d’éloge, signifiant « excellent, bien, bon » – « Amen » ou « AllĂ©luia » J.K. Krishnamurti |❖ Pleine Conscience € MaĂźtrise de Soi € SpiritualitĂ© € ClartĂ© Mentale € Non-attachement ❖|
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627- 🙏 ENG | Jiddu Krishnamurti 💛PUBLICATION : Version Française aprĂšs la Version Anglaise💛 |❖ For OPTIMAL UNDERSTANDING Read the whole text with ATTENTION ❖| Public Talk - Life Ahead ☀ LIFE ☀ 15 UNDERSTANDING FREES THE MIND☀ ―⁈ Q.: Does intelligence build character? ☀ K.: WHAT DO WE MEAN BY 'CHARACTER'? AND WHAT DO WE MEAN BY 'INTELLIGENCE'? Every politician - whether the Delhi variety, or your own local tub-thumper - continually uses such words as 'character', 'ideal', 'intelligence', 'religion', 'God'. We listen to these words with rapt attention, because they seem very important. Most of us live on words; and the more elaborate, the more exquisite the words, the more satisfied we feel. So, LET US FIND OUT WHAT WE MEAN BY 'INTELLIGENCE' AND WHAT WE MEAN BY 'CHARACTER'. DON'T SAY I AM NOT ANSWERING YOU DEFINITELY. TO SEEK DEFINITIONS, CONCLUSIONS, IS ONE OF THE TRICKS OF THE MIND, AND IT MEANS THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO INVESTIGATE AND UNDERSTAND, YOU JUST WANT TO FOLLOW WORDS. What is intelligence? If a man is frightened, anxious, envious, greedy, if his mind is copying, imitating, filled with other people's experiences and knowledge; if his thinking is limited, shaped by society, by environment - is such a man intelligent. He is not, is he? And can a man who is frightened, unintelligent, have character - character being something original, not the mere repeating of traditional do's and don'ts? Is character respectability? Do you understand what that word 'respectability' means? You are respectable when you are looked up to, respected by a majority of the people around you. And what do the majority of people respect - the people of the family, the people of the mass? They respect the things which they themselves want and which they have projected as a goal or an ideal; they respect that which they see to be in contrast with their own more lowly state. If you are rich and powerful, or have a big name politically, or have written successful books, you are respected by the majority. What you say may be utter nonsense, but when you talk, people listen because they regard you as a great man. And when you have thus won the respect of the many, the following of the multitude, it gives you a sense of respectability a feeling of having arrived. But the so-called sinner is nearer to God than the respectable man, because the respectable man is clothed in hypocrisy. Is character the outcome of imitation, of being controlled by the fear of what people will say or won't say? Is character the mere strengthening of one's own tendencies, prejudices? Is it an upholding of the tradition, whether of India, of Europe or America? That is generally called having character - being a strong person who supports the local tradition and so is respected by the many. But when you are prejudiced, imitative, bound by tradition, or when you are frightened, is there intelligence, is there character? Imitating, following, worshipping, having ideas - that way leads to respectability, but not to understanding. A man of ideals is respectable; but he will never be near God, he will never know what it is to love, because his ideals are a means of covering up his fear, his imitation, his loneliness. So, without understanding yourself, without being aware of all that is operating in your own mind - how you think, whether you are copying, imitating, whether you are frightened, whether you are seeking power - , there cannot be intelligence. And IT IS INTELLIGENCE THAT CREATES CHARACTER, not hero worship or the pursuit of an ideal. THE UNDERSTANDING OF ONESELF, OF ONE'S OWN EXTRAORDINARILY COMPLICATED SELF, IS THE BEGINNING OF INTELLIGENCE, WHICH REVEALS CHARACTER. ☀ đŸ•Šïž 🙏Sadhu ! Sadhu ! Sadhu ! 🙏 đŸ•ŠïžAmong others it is used to express shared joy, moral approval, and spiritual agreement. Also means « excellent, well done, or it is good.» - «Amen or Hallelujah» J.K. Krishnamurti |❖Mindfulness € Self Mastery € Spirituality € Mental Clarity € Attachment Free ❖| ―🙏― 📖 VERSION FRANÇAISE 📖 đŸ•ŠïžOn LinkedIn « New Post » 627- 🙏FR | Jiddu Krishnamurti |❖ Pour une COMPRÉHENSION OPTIMALE, LIRE avec ATTENTION le texte au complet « du DĂ©but Ă  la Fin » ❖| Causerie - Face Ă  la vie ☀ La vie ☀ 15 LA COMPRÉHENSION EST CRÉATRICE☀ Q.: Est-ce l'intelligence qui construit le caractĂšre? ☀ K.: QU'ENTENDEZ-VOUS PAR « CARACTÈRE » ET PAR « INTELLIGENCE »? Tous les politiciens, depuis ceux de New Delhi jusqu'Ă  l'amateur du coin, parlent de caractĂšre, d'idĂ©al, d'intelligence, de Dieu. On les Ă©coute avec admiration, parce que ce sont des gens soi-disant importants. On vit de mots, et l'on s'en satisfait d'autant plus qu'ils sont savants et compliquĂ©s. COMPRENEZ DONC QUE CE QUE VOUS VOULEZ DIRE PAR « INTELLIGENCE » ET « CARACTÈRE », ET NE ME REPROCHEZ PAS DE NE PAS VOUS RÉPONDRE DIRECTEMENT. VOULOIR DES DÉFINITIONS, DES CONCLUSIONS, EST UN ARTIFICE DE LA PENSÉE QUI RÉVÈLE QUE VOUS NE CHERCHEZ PAS À COMPRENDRE, MAIS QUE VOUS DÉSIREZ VOUS ATTACHER À DES MOTS. Qu'est-ce que c'est que l'intelligence? Si on est effrayĂ©, angoissĂ©, envieux, avide; si on a l'esprit rempli de l'expĂ©rience et des connaissances d'autrui et une pensĂ©e limitĂ©e, façonnĂ©e par la SociĂ©tĂ© et le milieu; si on copie et on imite, est-on intelligent?... Et si on est craintif et inintelligent, peut-on avoir du caractĂšre, peut-on ĂȘtre original, peut-on ĂȘtre affranchi des morales traditionnelles? Avoir du caractĂšre est-ce que cela veut dire ĂȘtre respectable? Être respectable, c'est ĂȘtre hautement considĂ©rĂ© et respectĂ© par le milieu oĂč l'on se trouve et par la foule. Or la plupart des gens respectent ce qui contraste avec leur situation moins privilĂ©giĂ©e: la richesse, le pouvoir politique, le succĂšs littĂ©raire, etc. L'homme « arrivĂ© » peut dire des sottises sans cesser pour autant d'ĂȘtre admirĂ© par la plupart des personnes; et ayant acquis le respect de la multitude, il a le sentiment d'ĂȘtre respectable, d'ĂȘtre un grand personnage. Mais le soi-disant pĂ©cheur est plus prĂšs de Dieu que l'homme respectable, parce que ce dernier est revĂȘtu d'hypocrisie. Avoir du caractĂšre est-ce se laisser guider par la crainte du qu'en dira-t-on? Est-ce dĂ©velopper ses propres tendances et renforcer ses prĂ©jugĂ©s? Est-ce dĂ©fendre une tradition? Ce qu'on appelle en gĂ©nĂ©ral avoir du caractĂšre, c'est ĂȘtre l'Ă©nergique dĂ©fenseur de la tradition locale et de ce fait, ĂȘtre respectĂ©. Mais se conformer Ă  des coutumes, ĂȘtre limitĂ© par des prĂ©jugĂ©s, adopter un mode collectif de pensĂ©e, comporte toujours une certaine peur et n'est pas le fait d'une personne intelligente. Cette personne peut devenir trĂšs respectable, mais elle n'a pas de comprĂ©hension; elle peut avoir un idĂ©al mais elle ne trouvera jamais Dieu; elle ne saura jamais ce qu'est l'amour car son idĂ©al n'est qu'un camouflage de sa peur, de son conformisme, de sa solitude. Si ce qui vous empĂȘche de vous comprendre vous-mĂȘme et d'ĂȘtre conscient du fonctionnement de votre esprit, est le fait que vous avez peur, que vous vous rĂ©fugiez dans un conformisme ou que vous ambitionnez le pouvoir, vous n'avez pas d'intelligence. Et SEULE L'INTELLIGENCE CRÉE LE CARACTÈRE; ELLE LE RÉVÈLE DÈS QUE L'ON COMMENCE À COMPRENDRE LES COMPLICATIONS EXTRAORDINAIRES DU MOI. ☀ đŸ•Šïž 🙏 Sadhu ! Sadhu ! 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You are most welcome my friend 🙇 Yes, it's difficult because our senses exist for sensations. It is their whole reason for being. Wherever we are there is... something to see something to hear something to smell something to touch something to know something to feel something... We let sensations, all these somethings, guide us as we react to them with thoughts about them and our thoughts manifest or activate emotions about and for them. The more we create the more we get lost in them and the stronger the old mind becomes. It wraps its arms tightly around us and has us believing it is necessary to Be. This is source/cause of the separation Jiddu spoke about. While I greatly appreciate Descartes statement of "I think therefore I am" it, mostly unknowingly to us, establishes and perpetuates the notion that because I can see, hear, smell and think etc. I exist. The result of this is we end up defining ourselves and this reality within which we exist by our reactions to what we perceive. Buddha explored this thoroughly through his Doctrine of Dependent Origination... when all the sensations and any thoughts about them cease to be I do not cease to Be. We do not exist for sensations for something We do not exist because we can think or have feelings about something, we simply exist... To me the more accurate statement is: I am therefore I can think... ...but I can also choose to not think about any or all of these somethings. I can choose to just Be This brings in what you mentioned in your post, which everyone should read, regarding Being WITHOUT ANY MOVEMENT OF MIND and all of Jiddu's wise words about it. As you rightly stated: All this, just to say
 the key for understanding and «insights» is to read & reread with an Attentive Mind, One will then notice « HOW » clearđŸ’„Easier & Easier everything becomes. And thank you Etienne, I will have a wonderful day and may you enjoy the same 👍😊🙏 🙏 Metta 🙏
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|❖ INSIGH#buddhabang |❖ INSIGHT € PROFOUND VISION € ONE TRUTH ❖| #Buddha’s Teachings The numerical Discourses of the Buddha Aáč…guttaraNikāya AN 33 ☀ The Book of the Ones by Bhikkhu Bodhi Homage to the Blessed One, the Arahant, the Fully Enlightened One Aáč…guttara Nikāya I. The Chapter of the Ones 1. MINDFULNESS DIRECTED TO THE BODY 575-627 I. Even as one who encompasses with his mind the mighty ocean includes thereby all the rivulets that run into the ocean; just so, O monks, whoever develops and cultivates mindfulness directed to the body includes thereby all the wholesome states that partake of supreme knowledge.11 One thing, O monks, if developed and cultivated, leads to a strong sense of urgency; to great benefit; to great security from bondage; to mindfulness and clear comprehension; to the attainment of vision and knowledge; to a pleasant dwelling in this very life; to the realisation of the fruit of knowledge and liberation. What is that one thing? It is mindfulness directed to the body
. If one thing, O monks, is developed and cultivated, the body is calmed, the mind is calmed, discursive thoughts are quietened, and all wholesome states that partake of supreme knowledge reach fullness of development. What is that one thing? It is mindfulness directed to the body
. If one thing, O monks, is developed and cultivated, ignorance is abandoned, supreme knowledge arises, delusion of self is given up, the underlying tendencies are eliminated, and the fetters are discarded.12 What is that one thing? It is mindfulness directed to the body. NOTE : “Mindfulness directed to the body” (kāyagatā-sati) comprises all fourteen exercises described under contemplation of the body in the Kāyagatā-sati Sutta (MN 119) and the Satipaáč­áč­hāna Sutta (DN 22, MN 10): mindfulness of breathing, attention to the postures, clear comprehension of activities, reflection on foulness (on the thirty-one parts of the body), analysis into the four elements, and the nine cemetery contemplations (on decaying corpses). The great stress laid on contemplation of the body derives from the fact that meditative comprehension of the impermanent, painful, and selfless nature of bodily processes forms the indispensable basis for a corresponding comprehension of mental processes; and it is only the comprehension of both that will lead to liberating insight and the noble path. If one thing, O monks, is developed and cultivated, ignorance is abandoned, supreme knowledge arises, delusion of self is given up, the underlying tendencies are eliminated, and the fetters are discarded.12 What is that one thing? It is mindfulness directed to the body. Note: 12 The three fetters (saáčƒyojana) eliminated by the stream-enterer are: personality view, i.e. the view of a self in relation to the five aggregates; doubt about the Buddha, his Teaching and the path of training; and clinging to rules and vows, i.e. penitential and ritualistic practices adopted in the belief that they are conducive to liberation. The non-returner breaks all five lower fetters (orambhāgiyāni saáčƒyojanāni)—the first three fetters (see preceding paragraph) as well as the next two fetters, sensual desire and ill will. Since these fetters bind beings to the sensual realm of becoming (see Text 33), the non-returner can never again be reborn in the sense sphere but takes rebirth in the form realm (generally in one of the Pure Abodes), where he attains final Nibbāna. The arahant destroys the five “higher fetters” (uddhambhāgiyāni saáčƒyojanāni): desire for the form realm, desire for the formless realm, conceit, restlessness, and ignorance. The fetters partly overlap with the taints (āsava): the first two are included under the taint of desire for becoming; the last is identical with the taint of ignorance. The underlying tendencies (anusaya) are seven mental defilements deeply engrained in the mind through past habituation: sensual desire, aversion, conceit, views, doubt, attachment to becoming and ignorance. Views and doubt are eliminated at the stage of stream-entry; sensual desire and aversion, at the stage of non-returning; conceit, attachment to becoming and ignorance only at the stage of arahantship. ―☀― TEXT-IMAGE ☀ Homage to the Blessed One, ☀ the Arahant, the Fully Enlightened One Aáč…guttara Nikāya I. The Chapter of the Ones 1. II. Mindfulness Directed to the Body « They do not partake of the Deathless who do not partake of mindfulness directed to the body. They partake of the Deathless who partake of mindfulness directed to the body. » « The Deathless is lost to those who have lost mindfulness directed to the body. Not lost is the Deathless to those who have not lost mindfulness directed to the body. » « They will fail to reach the Deathless who fail in mindfulness directed to the body. They gain the Deathless who gain mindfulness directed to the body. » « They neglect the quest for the Deathless who neglect mindfulness directed to the body. They do not neglect the quest for the Deathless who do not neglect mindfulness directed to the body. » « They forget the Deathless who forget mindfulness directed to the body. They do not forget the Deathless who do not forget mindfulness directed to the body. » «They are undeveloped in the quest for the Deathless who are undeveloped in mindfulness directed to the body. They are developed in the quest for the Deathless who are developed in mindfulness directed to the body.» « They have not comprehended the Deathless who have not comprehended mindfulness directed to the body. They have comprehended the Deathless who have comprehended mindfulness directed to the body. » « They have not realised the Deathless who have not realised mindfulness directed to the body. They have realised the Deathless who have realised mindfulness directed to the body. » ―☀― Cont The Book of the Ones ―☀XIX. MINDFULNESS DIRECTED TO THE BODY ☀― Tomorrow’s Post Buddha |❖ Mindfulness € Self Mastery € Spirituality € Mental Clarity € Attachment Free ❖|
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That may be all right. But real simplicity is freedom from knowledge, freedom from remembering or accumulating experience. Have you not noticed the people who make a point of having very little and who think they are very simple? Have you not listened to them? Though they may have only a loincloth and a staff, they are full of ideals. Inwardly they are very complex, battling against themselves, struggling to follow their own projections, their own beliefs. Inwardly they are not simple; they are full of what they have gathered from books, full of ideals, dogmas, fears. Outwardly they may have only a staff and a few clothes. BUT REAL SIMPLICITY OF LIFE IS TO BE INWARDLY EMPTY, INNOCENT, WITHOUT THE ACCUMULATION OF KNOWLEDGE, WITHOUT BELIEFS, DOGMAS WITHOUT THE FEAR OF AUTHORITY; AND THAT STATE OF INWARD SIMPLICITY CAN COME INTO BEING ONLY WHEN YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND EVERY EXPERIENCE FROM MOMENT TO MOMENT. IF YOU HAVE UNDERSTOOD AN EXPERIENCE, THEN THAT EXPERIENCE IS OVER, IT LEAVES NO RESIDUE. It is because we do not understand experience, because we remember the pleasure or the pain of it, that we are never inwardly simple. Those who are religiously inclined pursue the things that make for outward simplicity; but inwardly they are chaotic, confused, burdened with innumerable longings, desires, knowledge; they are frightened of living, of experiencing. If you look at envy, you will see that it is a deep-rooted form of remembering which is a very destructive, a very deteriorating factor in our lives; and so likewise is experience. This does not mean that you must forget everyday facts, or avoid experience. You can't. But the man who is full of experience is not necessarily a wise man. The man who has an experience and just clings to that experience is not a wise man; he is like any schoolboy who reads and accumulates information from books. A WISE MAN IS INNOCENT, FREE OF EXPERIENCE; HE IS INWARDLY SIMPLE, THOUGH OUTWARDLY HE MAY HAVE ALL THE THINGS OF THE EARTH - OR VERY LITTLE. ―⁈ Q.: Why does a man feel disturbed when another person looks at him intently. K.: Do you feel nervous when someone looks at you? When a servant, a villager - someone whom you consider inferior - looks at you, you do not even know he is there, you just pass him by; you have no regard for him. But when your father, your mother, or your teacher looks at you, you feel somewhat anxious because they know more than you do, and they may find out things about you. Going a little higher, if a government official or some other prominent visitor takes notice of you, you are pleased, because you hope to get something from him, a job or some kind of reward. And if a man looks at you from whom you do not want anything, you are quite indifferent, are you not? So it is important to find out what is operating in your own mind when people look at you, because how you inwardly respond to a look or a smile means a great deal. Unfortunately, most of us are utterly unaware of all these things. We never notice the beggar, or the villager carrying his heavy burden, or the flying parrot. We are so occupied with our own sorrows, longings, fears, with our pleasures and rituals that we are unaware of many significant things in life. ☀ đŸ•Šïž 🙏Sadhu ! Sadhu ! Sadhu ! 🙏 đŸ•ŠïžAmong others it is used to express shared joy, moral approval, and spiritual agreement. Also means « excellent, well done, or it is good.» - «Amen or Hallelujah» J.K. Krishnamurti |❖Mindfulness € Self Mastery € Spirituality € Mental Clarity € Attachment Free ❖| ―🙏― 📖 VERSION FRANÇAISE 📖 đŸ•ŠïžOn LinkedIn « New Post » 626-R 🙏FR | Jiddu Krishnamurti |❖ Pour une COMPRÉHENSION OPTIMALE, LIRE avec ATTENTION le texte au complet « du DĂ©but Ă  la Fin » ❖| Causerie - Face Ă  LA VIE ☀ ☀ 15 LA COMPRÉHENSION EST CRÉATRICE☀ La plupart d'entre nous sont si appesantis par l'autoritĂ©, par les paroles d'autrui, par ce que dit la Bhagavad Gita ou quelque autre Ă©crit, que nos vies sont devenues trĂšs mĂ©diocres. Toutes ces mĂ©moires ne sont rien que nous ayons compris, rien de vivant et tant qu'elles nous encombreront, il n'y aura rien de neuf en nous. La vie, elle, est toujours neuve, et nous ne la comprendrons pas; nos existences deviendront mornes, nous tomberons dans une sorte de lĂ©thargie, nous deviendrons physiquement et mentalement gras et laids. La simplicitĂ© est un Ă©tat de libertĂ© par rapport au fardeau de l'expĂ©rience et de la mĂ©moire. On pense que la simplicitĂ© consiste Ă  n'avoir que peu de vĂȘtements et un bol de mendiant; que la vie simple consiste Ă  possĂ©der peu. Cela pourrait ĂȘtre vrai, mais la vraie simplicitĂ© consiste Ă  se libĂ©rer des connaissances et de l'accumulation de l'expĂ©rience. N'avez-vous pas observĂ© des personnes qui se donnent comme but de n'avoir pas de possessions et qui s'imaginent ainsi se dĂ©pouiller? Les avez-vous Ă©coutĂ©es? Peut-ĂȘtre ne possĂšdent-elles qu'un pagne et un bĂąton, mais elles sont remplies d'idĂ©aux, d'idĂ©es, de dogmes, de craintes et de ce qu'elles ont ramassĂ© dans des livres. Elles sont complexes, toujours en train de batailler contre elles-mĂȘmes, de courir derriĂšre leurs projections et leurs croyances. Elles ne sont pas simples. LA VRAIE SIMPLICITÉ CONSISTE À AVOIR L'ESPRIT INNOCENT, VIDÉ DE CETTE ACCUMULATION, DE CES CROYANCES, DE CETTE CRAINTE DE L'AUTORITÉ, ET CET ÉTAT NE PEUT SE PRODUIRE QUE LORSQUE L'ON COMPREND RÉELLEMENT CHAQUE EXPÉRIENCE D'INSTANT EN INSTANT. SI ON EN COMPREND UNE, ELLE DISPARAÎT SANS LAISSER DE RÉSIDU. Mais on se souvient du plaisir ou de la douleur que l'on a ressenti et cela empĂȘche d'ĂȘtre simple. Les personnes d'esprit religieux cherchent une simplicitĂ© extĂ©rieure, mais sont encombrĂ©es de dĂ©sirs, d'aspirations, de connaissances; elles sont dans un Ă©tat de chaos et de confusion et ont peur d'affronter directement la vie. Examinez bien l'envie, et vous verrez que c'est une forme de mĂ©moire trĂšs profondĂ©ment enracinĂ©e, qui nous dĂ©tĂ©riore et, ainsi que l'expĂ©rience, finit par nous dĂ©truire. Je ne veux pas dire qu'il faut oublier les faits quotidiens et Ă©viter de vivre des expĂ©riences. C'est impossible. Je veux dire que l'homme d'expĂ©rience n'est pas nĂ©cessairement un sage. S'il s'accroche Ă  son expĂ©rience, il n'a aucune sagesse: il est semblable Ă  n'importe quel Ă©colier qui accumule des connaissances. LE SAGE EST INNOCENT D'ESPRIT, LIBRE DE TOUTE EXPÉRIENCE; IL EST SIMPLE, INTÉRIEUREMENT, BIEN QU'EXTÉRIEUREMENT IL PUISSE AVOIR TOUT CE QU'ON PEUT AVOIR AU MONDE - OU À PEU PRÈS RIEN. Q.: Pourquoi est-on troublĂ© lorsqu'on est dĂ©visagĂ© avec insistance? ☀ K.: Cela vous Ă©nerve qu'on vous regarde? Lorsqu'un villageois, un domestique, quelqu'un que vous considĂ©rez infĂ©rieur vous observe, vous ne vous en rendez mĂȘme pas compte. Mais lorsqu'il s'agit de vos parents ou de vos professeurs, cela vous trouble, parce qu'ils vous dominent et pourraient porter certains jugements sur vous. Allant plus haut, si un personnage officiel vous remarque, cela vous fait plaisir parce que vous espĂ©rez qu'il vous procurera un avantage quelconque. Si une personne dont vous n'attendez rien vous regarde, cela vous laisse indiffĂ©rent. L'important est donc de savoir ce qui se passe dans votre esprit lorsqu'on vous regarde, car la façon dont vous rĂ©agissez Ă  un regard, Ă  un sourire, a une grande signification. Malheureusement, nous ne sommes pas conscients de nos rĂ©actions. Nous ne remarquons ni le mendiant, ni le paysan qui porte un lourd fardeau, ni l'oiseau qui vole. Nous sommes si absorbĂ©s par nos chagrins, nos espoirs, nos craintes, nos plaisirs, nos rituels, que nous ne percevons pas les choses essentielles. ☀ đŸ•Šïž 🙏 Sadhu ! Sadhu ! Sadhu ! 🙏 đŸ•Šïž UtilisĂ© entre autres pour exprimer une joie partagĂ©e de dĂ©votion, une approbation des valeurs morales et spirituelles. Aussi une expression d’accord et d’éloge, signifiant « excellent, bien, bon » – « Amen » ou « AllĂ©luia » J.K. Krishnamurti |❖ Pleine Conscience € MaĂźtrise de Soi € SpiritualitĂ© € ClartĂ© Mentale € Non-attachement ❖|
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đŸ’„đŸ—ïžâ˜€ïžđŸ™ NOTE: read the quoted post before my comments What Jiddu spoke of in this excerpt regarding feeling and labels is wise even if it can be very difficult to get one’s head around what he was speaking about let alone do it. To start with, it’s quite challenging to find a way to explain what he was talking about because it involves the ineffable, which can only be spoken of using metaphors or allegories etc., though he did so very well. A key is found in the first part of the excerpt: “WHEN THE MIND IS REALLY QUIET, THEN THE FEELINGS WHICH ARISE CAN BE DEALT WITH IMMEDIATELY. It is only when we give names to feelings and thereby strengthen them that the feelings have continuity; they are stored up in the center, from which we give further labels, either to strengthen or to communicate them.” When it comes to the importance of a quiet mind and what the how and why of how it affects our conscious ‘perception’ is not some magical trick. It’s tied to the minds Perception Process that I’ve explained in several posts including in the Additional Readings at the end my comments on excerpt #181 xitter.cf/TheTwinPowers/status/2
). By quieting the mind we interrupt the process between the first and second steps. In doing so, we also gain access to aspects of our true/non-self which allows us to end the separation between the observer and the observed and do what he mentioned in the above quote. Jiddu got into the shift in our conscious awareness in the rest of this excerpt. However, at the same time, what he spoke of can be confusing to those who’ve not experienced ‘true Being beyond mind – perceiving without thoughts/words getting in our way. It’s why I’ve taken a couple days to contemplate and meditate on what he said and on how to speak to or about it in a way that will be helpful rather than making it even more confusing. It comes down to the difference between being conscious through/via the ephemeral mundane mind and its constructs and that of our true/non-self. Our true/non-self is aware beyond anything the mind can even begin to comprehend; however, it doesn’t have a mind or thoughts as we know them. I tend to use different terms to differentiate between the mind, with its mental constructs, and that of our true/non-self, which doesn’t have them, by the terms knowledge and what I simply refer to as KNowing. The former is comprised of and uses labels; the latter doesn't have labels to use. This makes it virtually impossible to describe KNowing without constructs/labels of any kind. Paul Foster Case gave a pretty good ‘description’ of KNowings in his book The Tarot in reference to his explanation of the symbolism of Key 0, The Fool. In this case superconsciousness can equated to the consciousness of our true/non-self: “
although superconsciousness has no actual experience of those facts and events which are the warp and woof of human knowledge, it’s inherent awareness of the principles of its own nature far transcend the limits of human wisdom.” When we are conscious beyond mind, or even have sufficiently quietened it, we are also conscious with an aspect or aspects of our true/non-self. Figuratively speaking, between our permanent and non-permanent aspects there’s a sort of boundary layer between them where both are ‘present’. In this state of Being we can ‘be with any thing’ be it external or an internal feeling or even thought, and in so doing we all the mind’s labels/words and the limitations that come with them: “You never remain with any feeling, pure and simple, but always surround it with the paraphernalia of words. The word distorts it; thought, whirling round it, throws it into shadow, overpowers it with mountainous fears and longings. You never remain with a feeling, and with nothing else: with hate, or with that strange feeling of beauty. When the feeling of hate arises, you say how bad it is; there is the compulsion, the struggle to overcome it, the turmoil of thought about it...” After the above Jiddu spoke of the difficulty of staying with a feeling: “Since you have the feeling of hate, of wanting to hurt somebody with a gesture or a burning word, see if you can stay with that feeling. Can you? Have you ever tried? Try to remain with a feeling, and see what happens. You will find it amazingly difficult. Your mind will not leave the feeling alone; it comes rushing in with its remembrances, its associations, its do’s and don’ts, its everlasting chatter.” How we ‘stay with a feeling’ is by the same method as that of end the separation between the observer and the observed, which he spoke of frequently. We do it by quieting our mind and being fully attentive as this suspends the Perception Process between the first two steps 
 and keep the old mind quiet – we experience the ‘feeling without the word’: “...AN YOU LOOK WITHOUT THE MOVEMENT OF THE MIND? CAN YOU LIVE WITH THE FEELING BEHIND THE WORD, WITHOUT THE FEELING THAT THE WORD BUILDS UP? IF YOU CAN, THEN YOU WILL DISCOVER AN EXTRAORDINARY THING, a movement beyond the measure of time, a spring that knows no summer.” We can realize the extraordinary thing Jiddu spoke of by reading, contemplating and meditating on this and all the excerpts of his talks and writings Etienne’s been sharing with us as often as it takes. All we need do is be serious and persistent in what I mentioned and, of course, quiet our minds and be as fully attentive as possible for this is the way to it. As always, time is not an issue. We just take one 👣 and then another 👣and keep going
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197- #JidduKrishnamurti #PublicTalk #Krishnamurti - The Book of Life /Le Livre de la MĂ©ditation et de la Vie #Dialogue #Question #Answer ! ―☀ WORDS ☀― ☀ DO NOT NAME A FEELING ☀ WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DO NOT NAME? You look at an emotion, at a sensation, more directly and therefore have quite a different relationship to it, just as you have to a flower when you do not name it. You are forced to look at it anew. WHEN YOU DO NOT NAME A GROUP OF PEOPLE, YOU ARE COMPELLED TO LOOK AT EACH INDIVIDUAL FACE AND NOT TREAT THEM ALL AS A MASS. Therefore you are much more alert, much more observing, more understanding; you have a deeper sense of pity, love; but if you treat them all as the mass, it is over. If you do not label, you have to regard every feeling as it arises. When you label, is the feeling different from the label? Or does the label awaken the feeling?... If I do not name a feeling, that is to say if thought is not functioning merely because of words or if I do not think in terms of words, images or symbols, which most of us do— then what happens? Surely the mind then is not merely the observer. When the mind is not thinking in terms of words, symbols, images, there is no thinker separate from the thought, which is the word. Then the mind is quiet, is it not? Not made quiet, it is quiet. WHEN THE MIND IS REALLY QUIET, THEN THE FEELINGS WHICH ARISE CAN BE DEALT WITH IMMEDIATELY. It is only when we give names to feelings and thereby strengthen them that the feelings have continuity; they are stored up in the center, from which we give further labels, either to strengthen or to communicate them. ―☀― REMAIN WITH A FEELING AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS ☀― You never remain with any feeling, pure and simple, but always surround it with the paraphernalia of words. The word distorts it; thought, whirling round it, throws it into shadow, overpowers it with mountainous fears and longings. You never remain with a feeling, and with nothing else: with hate, or with that strange feeling of beauty. When the feeling of hate arises, you say how bad it is; there is the compulsion, the struggle to overcome it, the turmoil of thought about it... Try remaining with the feeling of hate, with the feeling of envy, jealousy, with the venom of ambition; for after all, that’s what you have in daily life, though you may want to live with love, or with the word `love’. Since you have the feeling of hate, of wanting to hurt somebody with a gesture or a burning word, see if you can stay with that feeling. Can you? Have you ever tried? Try to remain with a feeling, and see what happens. You will find it amazingly difficult. Your mind will not leave the feeling alone; it comes rushing in with its remembrances, its associations, its do’s and don’ts, its everlasting chatter. Pick up a piece of shell. đŸ’„/ đŸ’„Can you look at it, wonder at its delicate beauty, without saying how pretty it is, or what animal made it? CAN YOU LOOK WITHOUT THE MOVEMENT OF THE MIND? CAN YOU LIVE WITH THE FEELING BEHIND THE WORD, WITHOUT THE FEELING THAT THE WORD BUILDS UP? IF YOU CAN, THEN YOU WILL DISCOVER AN EXTRAORDINARY THING, a movement beyond the measure of time, a spring that knows no summer. #JKrishnamurti #Mindfulness #Wisdom #Wise #Life /
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