Actually, they didn’t. Hospitals as a concept are original to Christianity, and this is a basic historical fact. This is why the communists made sure to capture the educational institutions first. You don’t have to teach lies, but you can certainly leave out many inconvenient truths.

The atheist believes that a hospital should be built instead of a church. The Church built another hospital while the atheist was busy thinking about how great his beliefs are.

It’s still so funny that they did this and then complained about being called “fake news”

“Was” and “is” are different things, bud Nobody said that the only thing which has ever caused people to become Muslim is violence Sometimes it’s just a good salesman with an ignorant mark

This is another difference between Christianity and Islam. We don’t actively hate the people we’re supposed to be converting.

Jake here was losing the argument, so he found a clip of Sam Samhoun (whom I don’t really pay much attention to) talking about an entirely different concept to make it seem like he wasn’t Like I said, fundamentally dishonest

Hey buddy which of those European countries converted because of conquest by Christians? Not Britain - Christianity came there when it was still illegal under Roman rule. Not France - the ruling dynasty converted when they were stronger than the Christian powers of the region. Not Germany - they too converted of their own volition. Spain, Italy, Greece, Norway, Sweden, Ireland, and really just about every other nation in southern and Western Europe chose Christianity without conquest forcing it onto them. Some of the Baltic states, parts of Poland and Lithuania, and a smattering of small regions in Germany had a more violent experience, but that was territorial as much as it was religious (if not more). But you? Your religion spread exclusively through violence for its first couple of centuries. Very few converted to Islam simply because they felt it to be the more reasonable religion.

The note is objectively correct. The original tweet was not objectively correct. If recognition of reality is “islamophobic,” then Islam is not reality.

He cites specific Old Testament scripture numerous times. You don’t get to ignore half his argument simply because it’s inconvenient.

This is the TLB version, which is a paraphrased version of the ASB, which is a translation based on the Masoretic Text, which is a mix of oral and manuscript traditions from the Talmudic Era. It was never intended to be anything approaching a literal translation. It’s designed to be accessible to the average American in 1971.

So to be clear, you aren’t going to bother refuting it?

We believe Mary willingly accepted this burden, and that Christ was incarnated within her through the miraculous work of the Holy Spirit. Misrepresenting our beliefs doesn’t make you correct.

They don’t. That’s not the point. The point is to make them feel unwelcome.

So to be clear, you aren’t going to bother refuting it? I thought you had a whole book chapter on why this Heiser is wrong…

Jake, your opinion of me is irrelevant. It’s Dr. Heiser you need to address.

There appear to have been binitarian ones, and there’s even some evidence for a third person of the Trinity being present even then. I’m sure you do have a chapter on it. I’m also sure it’s full of facetious nonsense like everything else you write. Thats why you didn’t actually present an argument and told me to go read your book. I told you to rebut a scholarly source and you said “read my drivel”. You’re an intellectual lightweight and nobody engages with you seriously for a reason.

You mean Judaism? The people you got it from? Who were definitely not Muslim?

I won’t debate you because you’re a fundamentally dishonest person, Jake. Briefly, we have numerous examples of the Old Testament recognizing Yahweh being in two places at once - both present in heaven and on earth in visible (in some instances physical) form. Go read Dr. Michael Heiser’s The Unseen Realm, then come back to me and explain why that scholarly opinion is incorrect.

Haha this guy doesn’t know what “turn the other cheek” means