Data over Mythology. Applying the GOAT debate rules consistently. Long strings are at @mythnixstrings. I’ll fix mistakes. I’m blocking trolls now.

Joined July 2019
MJ fans believe that MJ and Lebron had the same injury luck. LeBron had WAY MORE teammate injuries, and it’s ignored in the GOAT debate. MJ went 2-7 in CF and Finals when a starter played 13 minutes or less. Think he gets 6 titles with his top scorers missing 20% of his games?
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Old heads must be so happy. The NBA is BACK, baby! Woo hoo! Somebody got hurt driving to the lane! THIS is more like it! More! More!!!
Jalen Williams has suffered a serious ankle injury, and they are bringing out the stretcher Sending prayers. 🙏
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In the last couple games, Lebron cleared a combined 73,485 minutes across playoffs and regular season games. That’s 25,000 more minutes than Jordan played. The equivalent of Kawhi’s entire regular season career. What’s the narrative? Oh yeah…Jordan worked harder. 🤦‍♂️
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I was told Scottie Pippen had to be “made” by MJ, and wasn’t even good in 1988. Here’s the LA Times on November 3, 1987: “Then there is Pippen’s growing stature as a star of the future and possible equal.” Equal to JORDAN. A week into his career. When do the lies stop?
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Bronny James makes the Laker squad and, of course, gets the following from Laker fans, per Twitter: They don’t have the “guts” to cut him Bronny is toxic Bronny is the worst draft pick ever (only Laker draft pick in the last 10 yrs with the team) Stay classy, Kobe fans.
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MJ fans believe Jordan’s Finals appearances make him the GOAT over LeBron. Meanwhile, MJ had better teams and weaker opponents, which shows in the fact his odds to win were 4 points higher, on average. Once again, MJ has a lower bar to clear, one that’s treated as equal.
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LeBron’s dominance is unmatched…
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Lebron is continually criticized for being “carried” to the Finals in 2007 by Gibson. Gibson was 21. I’m not sure why LeBron doesn’t get credit for “making” him, like others do. Did you know LeBron’s starter teammates played 23 seconds in that 4th quarter? GOAT.
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This should disqualify Jordan from being the GOAT, right? A one-time champion head coach was the “biggest star” in Chicago. Doesn’t this undo all the “Jordan had the biggest aura” arguments? Imagine if people said LeBron was a lesser star than Sean McVay.
"He was larger than life. ... Michael Jordan was a global icon and certainly beloved in Chicago, but Mike Ditka was the biggest star in Chicago sports." @Espngreeny explains how much of an impact Mike Ditka had on the city of Chicago 🙌 (via @PatMcAfeeShow)
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Larry Bird gets a free pass for his “chokes.” He lost game 7 in 1982 vs the Sixers. Here’s what Dick Stockton said on the broadcast before it started. Nobody thought Boston would lose. This is how Bird is treated hypothetically. He’d always win. Reality was different.
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I was told all Michael Jordan cared about winning. Winning, winning, winning. Except, of course, when Michael Jordan actually said “winning isn’t always about championships.” Can you imagine if LeBron said this? It’d be referenced on Twitter every hour for 30 years.
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How many MJ fans know that MJ went to Reinsdorf’s house to get all his teammates traded after 1990? And how many know that, when Reinsdorf told him no—he asked his agent to get him out of his contract? Jordan had Pippen and Grant and wanted them gone.
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In a single paragraph, Michael Jordan does four things LeBron James would never be allowed to do: Complain about management Complain about teammates in public Complain about the coach Humiliate a teammate Any one of these would be met with “Jordan would never.”
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Here’s another quote from “humble” Michael Jordan that, if LeBron said it, LeBron would be considered the most egotistical and arrogant guy ever…
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As you watch LeBron play his 24th preseason…compare his competitiveness to Jordan. Do you remember when the “greatest competitor ever” who “loved basketball” said he wasn’t going to training camp because he was too tired? I thought athletes in their prime didn’t get tired?
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We all know Michael Jordan never blamed his teammates for losses, right? He was too humble. He was always fully accountable. We can just ignore this is what he said about his teammates after a game in 1990…
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In 1990, when Michael Jordan was losing to the Pistons, he had an All Star on his team in Pippen. The media treated the Bulls as though the were still just MJ. Here’s a game Pippen scored TWENTY NINE points as an All Star, and the coverage calls Chicago a “one man show.”
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Michael Jordan could lose prior to 1991 and get no blame for it. He was “young,” so he was allowed to get better all the way until age 28. Jordan even SAID he was still getting better. Meanwhile, LeBron is disqualified at age 26. Not allowed to get better after 2011.
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A gentle reminder that the guy who cared the MOST about his stats and image was MICHAEL JORDAN. He’s also an investor in DraftKings. xitter.cf/cpeniv/status/16133160…
Michael Jordan: “If I were to play today... I can’t worry about what people are betting on. I can’t worry about what the stats are. I never worry about the stats. All I care about is the end of the game... If we win, I couldn’t care less who won the bet, who didn’t win the bet. I know I won the game. Ultimately, that’s all that I even focused on... Today, you’ve got to build a brand... That takes away from the team aspect... I don’t envy that. I’m glad I was born at the time that I was born.” (via @Sportradar, h/t @TheNBABase)
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MJ fans laugh at Pippen for not winning in 1994, with a team that won at a 58 win pace when he played. They say that team could “never win,” and was never a threat. Meanwhile, the 2011 Miami Heat won that same 58 games. THAT team not winning is “the greatest collapse ever.” 🤔
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People blame LeBron for losing in 2017 & 2018. Did you know that LeBron was more of an underdog than MJ was vs Boston in 1986? For Jordan, his going 0-6 was celebrated, because it was SO hard. While LeBron was supposed to WIN, or else he’s a loser. Different standards.
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