Christians are confused about morality:
They think there is either a "real standard" (by which they mean an cosmic authoritarian one) or it's purely a matter of individual preferences.
This is clearly a false dichotomy.
The debate is not between purely "objective" or purely "subjective," both views are useless. We have to integrate those components into a framework that accounts for both the value (our interests and experience) as well as the standard (the judgments and consequences of actions).
Such a framework exists and it does not require a god.
If there is no God, your conviction that some things are truly evil is just chemistry talking. You have no grounds to call anything wrong, only things you dislike. Your outrage is either evidence of a real standard or an emotion you refuse to abandon. One of those is true.
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P1. Any morally responsible agent who deliberately and avoidably ordains that persons will become irredeemable and suffer eternally, while withholding the only means by which they could be redeemed, is evil.
P2. According to Reformed Christianity, God deliberately and avoidably ordains that some persons will become irredeemable and suffer eternally, while withholding the only means by which they could be redeemed.
C. Therefore, the God of Reformed Christianity is evil.
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I’m reading “The Jesus Problem” by J M Robertson 1917 - and wowww. He offers an extremely compelling argument for Jesus being a mythical character.
Has anyone else read his work?
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What is the best evidence that Jesus was a real person?
The case for mysticism is stronger than I expected.
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BEWARE of the all-loving God!
Everything he does is loving, he's the literal embodiment of love itself...it's just a major bummer that this "love" also includes genocide, retribution, punishing innocents, and eternal suffering.
Dang it.
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It’s almost amazing that someone can talk about a topic for DECADES and avoid learning the most basic elements of the view they’re trying to argue against.
Is @DrFrankTurek a fool or a liar?
Where did we come from & where are we going? To celebrate the release of the newly revised & updated edition of 'I Don't Have Enough Faith to Be an Atheist', let's re-examine the scientific & philosophical evidence for the origin of the universe.
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lol beware of the all loving god!
"If you thought drowning babies was bad, you haven't seen the half of it!" - Christian that thinks God's nature is the foundation of morality
Atheist can't stand the fact that the Creator has the right and authority to judge and punish His creation because they know He will judge them one day, and the punishment will be much worse than a temporary event of drowning in water.
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I'm convinced that the entire APOLOGETICS enterprise depends on Christians being endlessly obtuse about any views other than their own.
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Christians in America have no idea what to do with art. They only know literalism.
Every time something Christian doesn’t align exactly with their theology they declare heresy and warn others to stay away, lest they be contaminated.
Chill out, guys.
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Christians don’t seem to know that the rest of us still have moral aspiration, discipline, humility, etc we’re growing and aiming to live the best most meaningful life we can.
These are part of growing up and maturing, not a part of your particular religion.
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Can someone please connect me with a Christian that can actually defend TAG?
Ideally one who has at least a cursory understanding of philosophy.
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