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• Image sensors
— Sony —
- 1/1.6 108mp
- Hita Kuchi 1μm { experimental }
- IMX 903 { iPhone 16P }
Dual Pixel AF
- Custom IMX { 898 ¿ } 1/1.12"
Xiaomi 14Ultra?
Double layer 1.4μm quad pixel AF 0.7x0.7 • QDOL⁴ • RAW16
Photodiodes binning
50mp, 25mp, 12.5mp, 6.25mp { experimental }
- 0.6μm double layer transistor
200mp 1/1.3" • 108mp 1/2" • 50mp 1/2.9" • 64mp 1/2.6"
- M4/3" 21.77mm • 80mp • 3.3μm
quad pixel, non double layer transistor
full 2x2OCL, pd & fl binning
80 - 40 - 20 - 10mp
*could be for xiaomi 15 ultra
- IMX 875 1/2.27" 48mp
- IMX 854 1/2.52" 48mp
- Z { 24 ultra custom? }
— Samsung —
2024 - 2025
- Isocell HP5 1/1.56" 0.5μm 201mp
Super PD Pro • Enchanced F-DTI • 12bit ADC • Smart-Iso Ultra • iTCG
ultra thin module
- Isocell GNU 1/1.22" • 1.28μm 50mp
Quad Pixel Pro 0.64x0.64
RAW16 super conversion gain
noise <1e • iTCG •upto 80k fwc / electrons
- Isocell HW series { nano photonics • xiso-cell }
HW1 1" 75mp 1.28μm
HW2 1/1.25" 48mp 1.28μm
HW3 1/1.4" 50mp 1.12μm
HW5 1/1.6" 48mp 1μm ↓
Xiaomi 15 ultra 5x tele? F2.8
Unapproved • CornerPixel , Penta²pixel { RGBW 25-1 }
2025 - 2027+
-Isocell HR1 324mp • 0.52μm • 1/1.12" • Hexa²pixel • S26 Ultra
quad pixel pro 324 - 81- 36 - 9
0.52μm 1.04μm 1.56μm 3.12μm
enchanced iTCG + DSG • RAW16+
[email protected] 81@24fps 36@60
- HR2 0.5μm { unknown }
*nano photonics cancelled for 324
-Isocell HU1 • 432mp • 0.56μm Type 1"
Hexa²pixel
1.12μm 1.68μm 3.36μm
432 - 108 - 48 - 12mp
- Isocell HU2 • 432mp • 0.5μm 1/1.1"
Hexa²pixel check Image 2
Hexa doesn't start from 6.
Combination of tetra & nona
- Isocell HV1 576mp • 1/0.9" • 0.32μm
Tetra³pixel • S28 Ultra?
576 - 144 - 36 - 9mp
0.32μm 0.64μm 1.28μm 3.84μm
iHSG + TSG RAW20+
- HV2 VTFET cmos ?
quad pixel ***
remosaic upto 2.3 gigapixel
- Isocell HV3 • 572.8mp • 0.2875μm • 1/1.00"
572.8 - 143.2 - 35.8 - 8.95mp
0.575μm 1.15μm 3.45μm
3D bending pixel transistor
ultra thin module
made for compact / foldables
• Image 2 • Tetra³pixel
Further version for security & automotive
ultra high fps, flexibility, and lowlight
hexa³
576 - 144 - 64 - 16 - 2.6mp
*unexamined
• Extra •
S24 series = LPDDR5X. no DDR5T
Update from this
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/170891…
Galaxy S24 series = 2200nits
no 2500.
2500nits version only for iPhone 16
What's new in HP2SX ?
Although HP2 performs great enough, it's actually a failure. that was rushed production, too much optical losses due to grid distance shrinking
Super QPD { μm lens / 4 bayer } replaced with new solution.
advanced Q-cell + DCC
as you can see on Image #4
although it seems different from published paper, I'm told there are pentagonal structure
no further details.
can't explain. I'm confused as well
• Check Image 3
This slight modification improved focusing & low light performance significantly. picture details are noticeably different { 23U - 24U }
What's new on HP2 on S25U ?
iTCG + DSG 16bit
12bit ADC
I think samsung should update hp2 product page.
5x tele may be not called IMX
maybe Z
F/3.0
Qualcomm have approved samsung 3nm, may appear on gen 4 oryon
Samsung 3GAP is significantly better than 3GAE, you may want to read it
ieeexplore.ieee.org/document…
3nm MBCFET
22% speed/performance & 34% power/efficiency compared to 4nm
It's even higher than what tsmc gain
on N3E vs 5nm, 18% & 32%
Mbcfet also allows 70% higher current for peak performance, which is perfectly suitable for oryon.
Fun fact,
N3B 3.7ghz was tested for hpc chips
but apple put it on bionic 17
which cause overheat on heavy workload
reference : ieeexplore.ieee.org/document…
Samsung may skip vizion 44D to 55D
real-time 60fps depth image
some paper reference on Image 4
Isocell GNU, strongest samsung sensor even killed HP2
some references on Image 4
Isocell HW / xiso-cell only for resolutions below 100mp.
Nano photonics can't be installed for high mp. It requires 3x more computing power
*some informations are acquired directly from author, no full pdf version.
Some of these already changed
But not really on S24
I don't think entire S24 series would use 2500 nits ( max version of M13 )
my false info from last year ↓
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/…
S24 series supposed to have only 2150-2200 nits max
there's no way they skipped this
because samsung still consider costcut the display by using smaller emitters. yes it's M13 material, but same emitters size from M11
*you can zoom M11 vs M12 iP14 to know what i mean by small & bigger emitters*
or i can say by their trademark
diamond pixel vs round diamond pixel
the differences between these pixel arrangements & size are just brightness, due to it's smaller size
efficiency, accuracy, etc still the same
2 different versions
M13 diamond pixel 2200 nits
M13 R. diamond pixel 2500 nits
I would expect S24 & S24+ use standard M13
only S24 Ultra use M13 full version
S24 & 24+ 2200 nits
S24 Ultra 2500 nits
or even worst, all variants use standard M13
other possibilities
S24 & 24+ M13 8 bit UDR1500
S24 Ultra M13 10 bit UDR2000
or
S24 & 24+ M12+
S24U standard M13 UDR1500
both displays, whatever happened Ultra confirmed would have different advanced ETL layer for ultimate efficiency from doosan solus
Samsung & Apple isn't the type of company that gives massive upgrade/generation
1750- 2200 are already big for a matte finish display
unless they want to play with numbers like chinese brands
like until now, no tester can reach 2500 & 2600 brightness claim of Opp X6 Pro and Xiaomi 13U
already mentioned earlier M13 would reach 2500, but if the rumours said all variants use the same display . . . .
that would be so hard to believe
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/162705…
The adoption of M13 panel, which is big upgrade from S23, was possible because samsung just transferred key tadf material production from germany to korea. significantly cheaper
The next biggest upgrade is M16 at
3000 nits with half power consumption of M11 at 1750 nits
Some ppl couldn't understand
Because i always cut most of my posts to meet the rate limit
and 4 pictures limit also annoying.
This post had exactly 4000 characters
Additional extension
*The image of tetra³ is purposely mistaken to not precede the author
36mp is 1.92μm not 1.28
the bayer layout also different.
it's 4x4 not 6x6
*Approved doesn't mean confirmed, qualcomm will see if 3gap yield proven to be 70%, or at least slightly lower
But since this is the first one, to avoid false news spreading
maybe i had too share the realistic one
Actual Tetra³pixel • Image 1
Image 2
Future hexa²plus / hexa³
"tentative name" unexamined concept
4-1 • 9-1 • 36-1 • 144-1 binning
the first sensor with 5 resolutions
no 216 binning
The first phone with hw / xiso-cell & 432mp wouldn't be samsung
Which phone will have it first ?
432mp 1/0.92"
Starting from 2025,
big pixel size = better quality = myth. not prediction, already tested
new era of tiny pixels 💠
Some sensors name could be wrong
HR can capture 324mp at 12.5 fps
default setting 36mp
a HV version support 16K recording
Both hr & hv have the exact resolution for 4K & 8K. the smoothest & highest bitrate achievable on smartphone without stacked dram.
That's was impressive, Xiaomi.
Xiaomi 14 Pro Frame use 99% Pure Titanium, which is Grade 2/7
Xiaomi mentioned aerospace grade,
that must be Ti Grade 2
99% Ti + C + Fe + H + N + O
Xiaomi also use advanced 1016 linear vibration motor, which is usually equipped on flagship gaming phone
New cooling system ?
Ice Loop
Xiaomi claims their new cooling system is 300% better than VC
1024 stepless variable aperture ?
This is new. i hope they're real
That means you can freely choose aperture between F/1.42 - F/4.0
that's like 0.02519± each step
What's more interesting xiaomi also use self developed glass for front & back, claims it's stronger than victus 2
Dynamic 4-mic recording
Xiaomi claims they've developed 6 way algorithm for ultra clear sound quality. up down left right front back
4 5G antennas
and finally, USB 3.2 gen 2
20gbps ?
4k60 front
Hmm couldn't spot xiaomi weakness anymore. the least costcut
It's about time for apple & samsung to step up, feel the pressures like in 2019
Known from budget flagship, to real flagship from all aspects.
China pricing starts from $685
You may underestimate this
but gen 3 really bring significant upgrades on flagship camera
Support for staggered hdr image sensors
less blurry hdr & better quality
combine shadow & highlight much faster
or what samsung called smart iso pro
• Support for DCG
{ dual conversion gain }
This is for 48-50mp hdr / raw capture
• Support for Multi Frame & QDOL
{ quad digital overlap }
for 14bit capture
on Android, currently only S23U & Xiaomi 13U have 14bit
Their 50mp quality would be amazing next year
Looks like iPhone prores gonna have a really tough competition . . . .
Less blanking hdr ?
well this is important, but sounds vague since there's no clear numbers / comparison
12 layers of semantic segmentation
This is big for ai camera that it could detect more objects in real-time
restoring the details & accurate colors
8 gen 3 also also support real-time AI processing on photo & video
furthermore, photo expansion ? video object eraser ? a lot of AIs
I don't really like photography but this gonna get me addicted 🫠
Actually i doubt a smartphone chip can be this strong to process these AI features, let's see if gen 3 worth the hype 👁️
Final part
3.5
Still on this
teapawt.net/UniverseIce/status/171…
Instead, I'll extend the entire thread. from both links
Old
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/165785…
New
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/…
Unexplained things only
some of these already explained on previous parts / other tweets
Mpeg5/evc was invalid.
after recent developer conference event, samsung officially named it's next gen codec APV
for more details you can read here
Samsung AVP/APV
8kassociation.com/industry-i…
LPDRR6 is on track, samsung already talked about this since techday 2021
mass production starts Q2 2024
expected to be June
UFS 4.1
Looks like it's coming earlier on some 2024 lineups
UFS 5.0 { 8th gen, 236 layers }
already started development since 2021
some references on 2022&2023
ieeexplore.ieee.org/document…
ieeexplore.ieee.org/document…
Super QPD
a microlens on every 4 pixels
{ red green² blue }
Ultra / Nano PD
Nano color routing on every pixels
4X faster & better
started development since 2021
First gen 0.8μm { 2021 }
ieeexplore.ieee.org/document…
Second gen 0.5μm { 2022 }
with video
opg.optica.org/abstract.cfm?…
Final preparation { 2023 }
ieeexplore.ieee.org/document…
There is fourth one which haven't been published for public
Samsung itself announced nano photonic for 2024 on techday
semiconductor.samsung.com/ne…
Mass production somewhere in 2025
It's said on earlier abstract that 324 sensor could capture full 320mp at 30fps without stacked dram
despite super high megapixel, shutter speed was magical.
no further details yet
What about SN SX SP ?
this is old naming. already used by samsung for years
Here's an example of 1 sensor with 3 different versions
semiconductor.samsung.com/im…
What about metalens ?
samsung patent with full details on pdf
patent.nweon.com/29506
samsung statement since 2021
thelec.net/news/articleView.….
2022 0.36mm
2025 0.3mm
additionally
2027 0.25mm
2028 0.2mm
Metalens 2nd gen ?
F/0.8 ?
2nd gen is produced by more advanced machine, expected to be multi-e beam litho
one of the reference
ieeexplore.ieee.org/document…
flatmetalens is nano level structure, only possible to made with DUV, EUV, E-beam & future machines
Front & rear { dual } upc ?
based on patent registered in kipris, but the link is encrypted
Here's alternative source
galaxyclub.nl/nieuws/patent-…
Hexa²pixel ? RGBW ?
Samsung already made rgbw version for techno
Sony have imx866
Hexa² is different than any existing tech, 324 432 576
Now 576mp
There's several unnaounced products before this.
First, start from dual pixel
Isocell GN1 & 2 & 5 have dual pixel pro
means 1 photodiode split into 2
technically GN5 have the smallest sensor in the world, reaching 0.5μm size in september 2021
a year ahead omnivision claim as the smallest 0.56μm
some OVB0A presentation slides
magazine.semiconductordigest…
Finally, upcoming IMX903 have dual pixel. iPhone16 could have 96mp feature
Interestingly, not just dual pixel
Sony also catching up to samsung's game. IMX 907 is quad pixel
a 50mp sensor can capture 200mp
This would be fun for future iPhone, Fold & other compact devices
What is quad pixel?
below is samsung's version of upcoming GN sensor in late 2024
which could come to fold 8 instead the previous GN5
GN 8 1/1.22" 1.28 μm 50mp
1 photodiode split into 4
This is even stronger than current flagship HP2. crazy
Back to 576mp
This sensor combined
Quad Pixel
ieeexplore.ieee.org/document…
Dual VTG
ieeexplore.ieee.org/document…
Metaphotonic
opg.optica.org/abstract.cfm?…
Based on VTFET architecture
ieeexplore.ieee.org/document…
•2
ieeexplore.ieee.org/document…
Both Samsung & IBM working on 1.7nm for 2027
including next gen Isocell { CMOS }
vtfet is naturally gaafet, so there's good reason to jump directly to vtfet
What about 576 hexa²plus & hexa³ ?
Hexa²plus was my own guess based on more pixel binning options
576 - 96 - 48 - 16
More optimized recording for 12K { 80mp }, 8K { 35mp }, 4K { 9mp }
Hexa³ 216 binning ?
Hexa³ is indeed possible & most likely for automotive & for ultra high fps.
minimum mp for FHD is 2.1mp
576 : 216 = 2.6mp
also suitable for cctv cameras.
Part 3 / 3
teapawt.net/UniverseIce/status/171…
Oh well. another lame screenshot
This thread has been quoted on october, I'm no longer mentioned charging & hexa³ ↓
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/…
The question is
is it fAbRiCatEd ?
aBsUrD & uNrEaLiStiC ? 😹
Today I'm not just explaining charging, but the entire thread from link above.
First, about charging
That was an old tweet from may, 2 months before s24 series battery fixed
Why did i say 65W ?
Let's start from battery.
Samsung use 3C battery
maximum safe voltage for dense single cell type per C-rate is 22w
That's why several chinese phones have odd number, 66w charging
For dual-cell type, it's safe to go 25w each. means upto 150w charging for 6C { 3+3 } battery
Smartphones with 240w charging, use 10C battery. which is EV grade
especially from bbk groups, with 1600 cycle. this is the safest & highest battery quality
One of samsung battery supplier, ATL already have 5C years ago
atlbattery.com/en/product.ht…
Now samsung have 4 battery suppliers even though SDI & ATL already more than enough
to save some cost & stable battery price between regions
That's enough about battery.
Next : charging protocol algorithm
Before we talked about this,
you should know that software & several tiny chips are required to support the hardware capability
and they're not cheap
that's why qc4 qc5 pd 3.1 chargers are mostly 2-3x more expensive than lower variant especially powerbank
you could try to watch powerbank teardown / d.i.y built from scratch
Fun fact. quick charge 4+ - 5 module are more expensive than vapor chamber / super large copper plate cooling
In the case with Galaxy S23 Ultra, it support PD 3.0 for upto 100w charging
Let's take a look at teardown Image below ↓ 1 & 2
•Img 1 • Left
For wireless,
Samsung use CPS4038 that support 40w wireless charging & 10w reverse charging
Source : convenientpower.com/productd…
In reality, only 25w wireless & 7.5w reverse.
•Img 1 • Right
For wired,
Samsung use PCA9481AUK
unfortunately it was back picture, I can't find high quality teardown with top picture
Source nxp.com/part/PCA9481AUK#/
This another lame cost-cutting
as you can read, the chip only allows 3.6V max. which is lower than S23 & S24 battery voltage itself
This is why samsung can't reach 45w charging.
42w is maximum for the chip can handle
and extremely hard to reach 40w
65W is super easy for samsung to bring up, even with cheap single cell. included higher wireless
But cost-cut in all businesses are just disgusting. although it make sense for large-scale production
$2 cut per product can save them $20m after 10 million sales
I'm sure if huawei wasn't sanctioned apple & samsung already have 40 & 65w last year
That's all for 65W
What about 120W ?
Is Samsung using new battery?
Well. it's still based on lithium ion
with more matured stacked battery
but different anode material
you can read here
samsungsdi.com/column/all/de…
Lithium SCN
240-350W ?
It's based on this
researchgate.net/publication…
a team samsung institute technology
Lithium + graphene balls
They claim it was 5x faster speed news.samsung.com/global/sams…
This is an old work
If based on 45w, that means 225w
If combined with recent work
It could reach 350+
a.k.a Lithium Graphene SCN
Alternative to this material is solid state battery, which will have similar max charge speed.
So, is it aBsUrD & uNrEaLiStiC like a certain cat claimed ?
That's all about battery.
He called me unrealistic
In fact, Ice made a lot of nonsense tweets as well & deleted them
some examples of deleted
The main context was 1" on galaxy
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/…
Context
TCL display beat samsung & lg 😹
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/…
Oh nevermind. I'd be glad to share full links if X increased rate limit
Next ? Image Sensor
teapawt.net/UniverseIce/stat…
" This is so RiDiCuLoUs "
He even called me stupid
teapawt.net/UniverseIce/stat…
Yeah sure. we are stupid
you are the smartest
and again
almost reached 4000 characters limit
this is too long 🙃
Let's continue in part 3.5
Part 3 / 3
teapawt.net/UniverseIce/status/171…
Oh well. another lame screenshot
This thread has been quoted on october, I'm no longer mentioned charging & hexa³ ↓
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/…
The question is
is it fAbRiCatEd ?
aBsUrD & uNrEaLiStiC ? 😹
Today I'm not just explaining charging, but the entire thread from link above.
First, about charging
That was an old tweet from may, 2 months before s24 series battery fixed
Why did i say 65W ?
Let's start from battery.
Samsung use 3C battery
maximum safe voltage for dense single cell type per C-rate is 22w
That's why several chinese phones have odd number, 66w charging
For dual-cell type, it's safe to go 25w each. means upto 150w charging for 6C { 3+3 } battery
Smartphones with 240w charging, use 10C battery. which is EV grade
especially from bbk groups, with 1600 cycle. this is the safest & highest battery quality
One of samsung battery supplier, ATL already have 5C years ago
atlbattery.com/en/product.ht…
Now samsung have 4 battery suppliers even though SDI & ATL already more than enough
to save some cost & stable battery price between regions
That's enough about battery.
Next : charging protocol algorithm
Before we talked about this,
you should know that software & several tiny chips are required to support the hardware capability
and they're not cheap
that's why qc4 qc5 pd 3.1 chargers are mostly 2-3x more expensive than lower variant especially powerbank
you could try to watch powerbank teardown / d.i.y built from scratch
Fun fact. quick charge 4+ - 5 module are more expensive than vapor chamber / super large copper plate cooling
In the case with Galaxy S23 Ultra, it support PD 3.0 for upto 100w charging
Let's take a look at teardown Image below ↓ 1 & 2
•Img 1 • Left
For wireless,
Samsung use CPS4038 that support 40w wireless charging & 10w reverse charging
Source : convenientpower.com/productd…
In reality, only 25w wireless & 7.5w reverse.
•Img 1 • Right
For wired,
Samsung use PCA9481AUK
unfortunately it was back picture, I can't find high quality teardown with top picture
Source nxp.com/part/PCA9481AUK#/
This another lame cost-cutting
as you can read, the chip only allows 3.6V max. which is lower than S23 & S24 battery voltage itself
This is why samsung can't reach 45w charging.
42w is maximum for the chip can handle
and extremely hard to reach 40w
65W is super easy for samsung to bring up, even with cheap single cell. included higher wireless
But cost-cut in all businesses are just disgusting. although it make sense for large-scale production
$2 cut per product can save them $20m after 10 million sales
I'm sure if huawei wasn't sanctioned apple & samsung already have 40 & 65w last year
That's all for 65W
What about 120W ?
Is Samsung using new battery?
Well. it's still based on lithium ion
with more matured stacked battery
but different anode material
you can read here
samsungsdi.com/column/all/de…
Lithium SCN
240-350W ?
It's based on this
researchgate.net/publication…
a team samsung institute technology
Lithium + graphene balls
They claim it was 5x faster speed news.samsung.com/global/sams…
This is an old work
If based on 45w, that means 225w
If combined with recent work
It could reach 350+
a.k.a Lithium Graphene SCN
Alternative to this material is solid state battery, which will have similar max charge speed.
So, is it aBsUrD & uNrEaLiStiC like a certain cat claimed ?
That's all about battery.
He called me unrealistic
In fact, Ice made a lot of nonsense tweets as well & deleted them
some examples of deleted
The main context was 1" on galaxy
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/…
Context
TCL display beat samsung & lg 😹
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/…
Oh nevermind. I'd be glad to share full links if X increased rate limit
Next ? Image Sensor
teapawt.net/UniverseIce/stat…
" This is so RiDiCuLoUs "
He even called me stupid
teapawt.net/UniverseIce/stat…
Yeah sure. we are stupid
you are the smartest
and again
almost reached 4000 characters limit
this is too long 🙃
Let's continue in part 3.5
Updates
S25
Likesaid here previously ↓
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/…
Samsung stay with HP2 on S25U
the full version of HP2 > IMX989
Isocell zoom pro ( main sensor ) 4x
Telephoto combo expected to switch 50mp 4x & 6x optical
New record & encode language still coming, but probably not UDR
Mpeg5 / EVC is possible
DDR6 10nm
UFS 4.1
4K amoled
Stacked battery could be delayed to S26
Next
S26U
HR1 324mp 1/1.12 0.5μm hexa²pixel
hexa² = 6, 12, 36 pixel binning
320mp 50mp 25mp 9mp
6 = red blue green green white white
12 = rgbw x3
36 = rggbww x6
17LPV CMOS
Nano photonics "Ultra QPD"?
324million TiO² nano lens
need source of how nanopillar works?
from isocell r&d team ↓
opg.optica.org/abstract.cfm?…
4K amoled
no HP5/7
Massive upgrade
S27U
Main HR1SX 324mp
removed UW
HP5/7 200mp 5X telephoto
Same technology as HR
ultra small front & rear vizion ToF 1/6.4
Metalens for main sensor
Variable F/1.2 - F/4.0
What is flat metalens?
see 3 picture references below
Metalens will replace conventional plastic lens module
significantly thinner.
only 1 layer needed instead 7-8 elements
ultimate full color routing
lifelike captures on all conditions
metalens are too small & complex to make that it needs duv machine for optimal result
samsung's 1st gen metalens could stretch upto 25%, that's why ultrawide sensor removed
main sensor still based on 24mm focal length, can stretch smoothly from 18mm - 30mm / 100° - 72° POV
honestly 18mm / 100° weren't enough for ultrawide, but in favor to save cost & make space for new HP5/7 tele sensor without decreasing battery capacity.
due to metalens, main sensor's 4x zoom can be extended to 5x
resulting super smooth zoom from 0.8x - 100x with just 2 sensors
I don't know if 27U tele limited to 100x, but 100x is minimum
max possibility is 200x
at 200mp, 5x optical - 50x digital - crop x4 lossless zoom = 200x
*50mp image
Still no info on magnification option for binned 12mp mode. this still too far
*New addition
S28U
HR1SP/U 324mp
Full version of HR series
Isocell zoom ultimate
6x lossless zoom + meta upto 7x
New metalens on telephoto
HP5/7 8x optical
variable 185mm - 205mm / 7~9x
14° - 12° POV
at 200mp, upto 36x lossless crop
smooth 0.8x - 180x zoom
180 is minimum
maximum possible range at 200mp
9x optical - 90x digital - 360x 50mp
Thanks to metalens, we're back to 2017 era. smartphones are flat again
nomore nonsense camera bump
S29U & beyond
HV1 576mp 1" 0.36μm
Telephoto sensor expected to adopt previous HR with 6x lossless crop
8x can zoom upto 540x
Samsung's metalens gen 2 can reach upto F/0.8 aperture ~ F/6
Need more details?
ask your mother 🗿
Yo this is too far already.
Samsung's goal is upto 576mp only for now, nobody knows what's beyond
576mp bump wouldn't be as thick as rumoured, that's completely false.
with metalens this would be flat / bumpless
DSLR market expected to lost significant value from 2027
The new era, battle of lens / nano technology
Camera sensor almost reached it's limit
Part 2.5 / 3
teapawt.net/UniverseIce/status/171…
# Image 1
S24U leak on January 2023?
well that's most likely wrong
but is it "fantasy" ?
L.O.L
It's an L shape periscope module, acquired from KIPRIS, unfortunately kipris link is encrypted
you can't copy paste / bookmark it
i tried to find all of the link references but give up.
there i give 3 patents, excluding abstracts
# Image 2
S23U 2200 nits?
already explained some here
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/…
M12 & M13 already exist since 2021
but M13 materials are new tadf oled, limited production
this is what i mean when i said they moved production from germany to korea
the inventor is cynora
{ acquired by Samsung on june 2022 }
cynora.com/technology-and-pr…
superior blue & green emitters
# Image 3
1750nits on ultra is wrong ?
Likesaid above, S23U use different aETL from 23&23+
it's the dimmest display at 0.8nits, and supposed be the highest among S23 series
and somehow samsung make them equal at 1750nits
There is several display tests from multiple sources that show S23U is noticeably superior despite the same 1750nits ad. just because they have the same brightness doesn't mean they're exactly the same
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teapawt.net/UniverseIce/status/171…
About 65W, Hexa³, S25 to 30, etc.
Full explanations on part 3 tomorrow.
This may be a long thread
"VaRiOuS fAnTaSiEs" 😹
L
Part 2 / 3
Let's continue.
From this post
teapawt.net/UniverseIce/status/171…
Why did i say UDR codec ?
Will it replace Dolby Vision ?
Well, the name was a guess
and i believe samsung may use similar name
Does Dolby Vision & Dolby Atmos replacement exist ? Yes.
A google & samsung project
named " Project Caviar "
I already knew this when i talked about UDR.
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/158227…
You can search project caviar on any search engine to find other references
this is one of them
google.com/amp/s/www.protoco…
UDR1500 & 2000 have been announced
But somehow S23U, iP14 Pro, Pixel8 Pro, Oppo Vivo etc that use samsung panel with greater nits than 1500 doesn't even use UDR1500 trademark. that's why i believe UDR should be something special rather than just brightness.
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teapawt.net/UniverseIce/status/171…
Let's start from # Image1
8K@60/HDR rumour
Why did i said this?
First of all, video recording isn't exactly based on SoC.
as you know even the mighty Xiaomi 13 Ultra only support 8K24
So, if other flagships only support 8K24 why S23 can 8K30 ?
Because samsung developed their own MFD, here's one example
ieeexplore.ieee.org/document… { 5nm sram decoder }
unfortunately there's no public source for encoder
S23 series 8K recording are significantly smoother than S22 despite 6fps differences
As i said before samsung decisions are based on competition, and 8K60/HDR is 100% ready.
The current S23 bitrate is upto 200mb at 8K30
8K60 fps is 300mb
if vanilla s23 support 200mbit
there's no reason s23u couldn't support 300mbit with superior tech
that's why i said there this isn't for S23 & 23+
but in the end that just their random decision. not to mention HP2 is nerfed than what described on original paper
2x faster frame rate than HM3
FHD 240 → 480
but 4K & 8K stay the same
Next
Image 2
Ok. this is retarded
I've quoted & renewed this 2 times, unfortunately he's too blind & dirty and exploit my old tweets
as i said before i never delete any tweets even if it shameful.
I'd prefer quote & correct it rather than hiding or deleted it like coward cat.
As you can see,
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/…
This post is from august 2022
quoted 2 times
In september 2022
*no longer valid*
and renewed in november
Although i'm still wrong on newest update, but cat pick the weird oldest one just to embarrass me infront of 470k followers
*my obsession since the beginning is being the fastest not the most accurate
I'd prefer tweet first & correct it later
Next
Image 3
I don't know why did he pick this
eco²oled is valid, it's used to Z series to compensate their small battery. so more reason for customers to buy galaxy Z without feeling inferior
S23+ use M11+ was wrong
S23U use M12+/13 ?
Well, i did say S23U use different display
and i mentioned M11+, 12+ many times
because i don't know the name, and noone knows
not even samsung name S23U display till now
based on reliable tester
xda-developers.com/samsung-g…
S23U use new green & red emitters
and same blue M11
23U also use same aETL from fold&flip, that's how 23u could reach 0.8nits
S23U display name is still mystery, not even cat can explain it
yet insulting. god level retard
Next
# Image 4
Ok what is this?
this tweet is from 2022
"there's no urgency for exynos comeback" is indeed correct.
S23 series full snapdragon
S24 was doubtful
but exynos clearly back now
not to mention i was the first to say 24ultra global snapdragon since april
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/…
S25 profit may be higher / 50% due to more chip dualization
with dream chip. i can almost guarantee global S25 series use dream & snapdragon
usually only X cores are customized, but in dream chip
X5 A7 & A5 are fully customized by arm & LSI. not factory default
Next
teapawt.net/UniverseIce/status/171…
Unfortunately i almost reached 4000 characters limit
need to extend part 2.5
*Image 1 2 3 4 is related to mentioned link, not this thread
open the link for full view or just see the cropped below
Images on this post are only for backup incase he delete it / I'm blocked
Part 2 / 3
Let's continue.
From this post
teapawt.net/UniverseIce/status/171…
Why did i say UDR codec ?
Will it replace Dolby Vision ?
Well, the name was a guess
and i believe samsung may use similar name
Does Dolby Vision & Dolby Atmos replacement exist ? Yes.
A google & samsung project
named " Project Caviar "
I already knew this when i talked about UDR.
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/158227…
You can search project caviar on any search engine to find other references
this is one of them
google.com/amp/s/www.protoco…
UDR1500 & 2000 have been announced
But somehow S23U, iP14 Pro, Pixel8 Pro, Oppo Vivo etc that use samsung panel with greater nits than 1500 doesn't even use UDR1500 trademark. that's why i believe UDR should be something special rather than just brightness.
Next
teapawt.net/UniverseIce/status/171…
Let's start from # Image1
8K@60/HDR rumour
Why did i said this?
First of all, video recording isn't exactly based on SoC.
as you know even the mighty Xiaomi 13 Ultra only support 8K24
So, if other flagships only support 8K24 why S23 can 8K30 ?
Because samsung developed their own MFD, here's one example
ieeexplore.ieee.org/document… { 5nm sram decoder }
unfortunately there's no public source for encoder
S23 series 8K recording are significantly smoother than S22 despite 6fps differences
As i said before samsung decisions are based on competition, and 8K60/HDR is 100% ready.
The current S23 bitrate is upto 200mb at 8K30
8K60 fps is 300mb
if vanilla s23 support 200mbit
there's no reason s23u couldn't support 300mbit with superior tech
that's why i said there this isn't for S23 & 23+
but in the end that just their random decision. not to mention HP2 is nerfed than what described on original paper
2x faster frame rate than HM3
FHD 240 → 480
but 4K & 8K stay the same
Next
Image 2
Ok. this is retarded
I've quoted & renewed this 2 times, unfortunately he's too blind & dirty and exploit my old tweets
as i said before i never delete any tweets even if it shameful.
I'd prefer quote & correct it rather than hiding or deleted it like coward cat.
As you can see,
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/…
This post is from august 2022
quoted 2 times
In september 2022
*no longer valid*
and renewed in november
Although i'm still wrong on newest update, but cat pick the weird oldest one just to embarrass me infront of 470k followers
*my obsession since the beginning is being the fastest not the most accurate
I'd prefer tweet first & correct it later
Next
Image 3
I don't know why did he pick this
eco²oled is valid, it's used to Z series to compensate their small battery. so more reason for customers to buy galaxy Z without feeling inferior
S23+ use M11+ was wrong
S23U use M12+/13 ?
Well, i did say S23U use different display
and i mentioned M11+, 12+ many times
because i don't know the name, and noone knows
not even samsung name S23U display till now
based on reliable tester
xda-developers.com/samsung-g…
S23U use new green & red emitters
and same blue M11
23U also use same aETL from fold&flip, that's how 23u could reach 0.8nits
S23U display name is still mystery, not even cat can explain it
yet insulting. god level retard
Next
# Image 4
Ok what is this?
this tweet is from 2022
"there's no urgency for exynos comeback" is indeed correct.
S23 series full snapdragon
S24 was doubtful
but exynos clearly back now
not to mention i was the first to say 24ultra global snapdragon since april
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/…
S25 profit may be higher / 50% due to more chip dualization
with dream chip. i can almost guarantee global S25 series use dream & snapdragon
usually only X cores are customized, but in dream chip
X5 A7 & A5 are fully customized by arm & LSI. not factory default
Next
teapawt.net/UniverseIce/status/171…
Unfortunately i almost reached 4000 characters limit
need to extend part 2.5
*Image 1 2 3 4 is related to mentioned link, not this thread
open the link for full view or just see the cropped below
Images on this post are only for backup incase he delete it / I'm blocked
After rethinking about it, i wouldn't share the papers.
These haters could simply mass report/ get my account got dmca strike or something
But here i am, as promised
will share sources from my last comeback only { otherwise i would be exhausted }
you could request source from other tweets if i have time
Sources
*Part 1 / 3
First
These are samsung supplier list
{ might not updated }
samsung.com/us/aboutsamsung/…
1
High purity alumina
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/171032…
Source
Dongwoo Fine-Chem Co.,Ltd.
dwchem.co.kr/contents.do?lan…
2
Real Isocell HP / HP2SP
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/170887…
Source
scholar.google.co.kr/citatio…
3
Transparent Antenna
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/171051…
Source
Dongwoo Fine-Chem Co.,Ltd.
dwchem.co.kr/contents.do?lan…
Paper
researchgate.net/publication…
4
{ Deleted Tweet }
Electromagnetic wave shielding shielding copper oil
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/171056…
Source
JX Nippon Mining & Metals Corp.
jx-nmm.com/chinese/products/…
5
Combo Coil Antenna
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/171131…
Source
Partron Co.,Ltd.
partron.co.kr/?construct=pro…
6
Samsung Pellicle & Other Equipments
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/171231…
News
english.etnews.com/202110132…
Source
Nuflare Technology Inc.
Matrics X9Ultra { Pellicle-less }
Mask Inspection
Supplied by Lasertec
lasertec.co.jp/en/products/s…
MBM™-2000PLUS • 3nm+
Mask Writer
nuflare.co.jp/english/produc…
7
Isocell GN 1/1.57" 50MP 1μm { GN7 ? }
50mp = 10K fwc
12.5mp = 40K fwc
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/171269…
Source
scholar.google.co.kr/citatio…
8
Isocell Vizion 44D 1/3.2" 3.5μm 1.2mp
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/171271…
Source
scholar.google.com/citations…
Bonus.
Vizion 33D 1/3" 7μm VGA SW-ISP
scholar.google.com/citations…
Vizion 55D 1/6.4" 3.5μm VGA
ieeexplore.ieee.org/document…
Another bonus
Isocell HM3
108mp = 6000 fwc
12mp = 18000 fwc
ieeexplore.ieee.org/document…
↑late submit,
extension from ieeexplore.ieee.org/document…
Part 2 coming tomorrow.
After rethinking about it, i wouldn't share the papers.
These haters could simply mass report/ get my account got dmca strike or something
But here i am, as promised
will share sources from my last comeback only { otherwise i would be exhausted }
you could request source from other tweets if i have time
Sources
*Part 1 / 3
First
These are samsung supplier list
{ might not updated }
samsung.com/us/aboutsamsung/…
1
High purity alumina
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/171032…
Source
Dongwoo Fine-Chem Co.,Ltd.
dwchem.co.kr/contents.do?lan…
2
Real Isocell HP / HP2SP
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/170887…
Source
scholar.google.co.kr/citatio…
3
Transparent Antenna
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/171051…
Source
Dongwoo Fine-Chem Co.,Ltd.
dwchem.co.kr/contents.do?lan…
Paper
researchgate.net/publication…
4
{ Deleted Tweet }
Electromagnetic wave shielding shielding copper oil
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/171056…
Source
JX Nippon Mining & Metals Corp.
jx-nmm.com/chinese/products/…
5
Combo Coil Antenna
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/171131…
Source
Partron Co.,Ltd.
partron.co.kr/?construct=pro…
6
Samsung Pellicle & Other Equipments
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/171231…
News
english.etnews.com/202110132…
Source
Nuflare Technology Inc.
Matrics X9Ultra { Pellicle-less }
Mask Inspection
Supplied by Lasertec
lasertec.co.jp/en/products/s…
MBM™-2000PLUS • 3nm+
Mask Writer
nuflare.co.jp/english/produc…
7
Isocell GN 1/1.57" 50MP 1μm { GN7 ? }
50mp = 10K fwc
12.5mp = 40K fwc
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/171269…
Source
scholar.google.co.kr/citatio…
8
Isocell Vizion 44D 1/3.2" 3.5μm 1.2mp
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/171271…
Source
scholar.google.com/citations…
Bonus.
Vizion 33D 1/3" 7μm VGA SW-ISP
scholar.google.com/citations…
Vizion 55D 1/6.4" 3.5μm VGA
ieeexplore.ieee.org/document…
Another bonus
Isocell HM3
108mp = 6000 fwc
12mp = 18000 fwc
ieeexplore.ieee.org/document…
↑late submit,
extension from ieeexplore.ieee.org/document…
Part 2 coming tomorrow.
Fantasies, he said.
Yeah sure thing
He even screenshot the old thread that's already renewed multiple times
Such shameful way to farm engagement from outdated post.
I'll share the valid sources { not tech news, random site, etc }for all my tweets from early october.
including original papers from samsung scientists { not full due to risk of getting flagged piracy }
then you can judge who's the one that full of fantasy.
get ready in 48 hours
you're just embarrassing yourself at this point, "fantasy" he said 👁️
You are free to express your opinions
I will share facts. not your bs drama
Fantasies, he said.
Yeah sure thing
He even screenshot the old thread that's already renewed multiple times
Such shameful way to farm engagement from outdated post.
I'll share the valid sources { not tech news, random site, etc }for all my tweets from early october.
including original papers from samsung scientists { not full due to risk of getting flagged piracy }
then you can judge who's the one that full of fantasy.
get ready in 48 hours
you're just embarrassing yourself at this point, "fantasy" he said 👁️
You are free to express your opinions
I will share facts. not your bs drama
Image 19
S11+ / 20+ = 4500 MaH not 5000
Image 20
5x where?
S20 Ultra 4x optical & 10x hybrid
S20+ 3x optical
S20 1.1x optical, 3x hybrid
It's funny that you want to be a prohet, many times. telling uncertainties
yet hating me on my future threads
I R O N I C
Image 16
Same fingerprint sensor
Teardown said otherwise
{ S22 vs 23 }
Image 17 & 18
According to the prophet, S23U use same material & agreed/quoted chun it was M11
Fact news.samsungdisplay.com/3395…
Img#16
I said on Ice's post that he's wrong.
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/…
Img#17
mentioned many times outside this Ice'post. S23U material is indeed different
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/…
Fastest than anyone.
teapawt.net/RGcloudS/status/…
The first to know HP2 on 23U
Score
Cloud 4 : Ice O
Unfortunately Ice's fingers are faster than the speed of light.
even last night F4.4 instantly deleted by him. what a coward running from responsibility
Fortunately, your entire tweets including replies are perfectly archived on my server.
from 2021-2023
I don't delete tweets & let other see my mistakes. learn from it
Oh well, that's enough.
20 Images for starter. need rest
I just spent my entire break time from work for just exposing your bullsh1ts.
probably tomorrow's bad day for me
bad mood entire day
I don't like this. wasting time
I want to be informative not dramatic
Why can't you just mind your own business & stop messing with others?
Do you want Part 2, Ice?
Quote me again, and I'll include your deleted tweets, 57 false deleted leaks in total. Combined with your correct informations, your accuracy become minus %
" Your seemingly accurate news is hardly accurate "
That's you. cat
Compensating your bad accuracy by deleting tweets, yet they still bad
