BF5 was the result of so much that we asked for, and players boycotted it because they didn't like the trailer. Attrition in the form of limited ammo and health, being able to resupply from flags instead of begging teammates, maps designed with areas for simultaneous vehicle and infantry cqb combat, weapons that could actually be controlled during fire (the sights always pointed where the bullets went), enter vehicle animations, the ability to build fortifications and defences, largely the removal of 3d spotting and a proper role for recon, warning players when they had been spotted, high bullet velocities (started in bf1), reintroduction of weapon customisation, deeper vehicle customisation, battle royale, immersive spawns at match start, the best vehicle physics frostbite has ever had, no manpad lockons and a return to powerful fixed antiair, truck-towable defences like aa and at arty, actual mannable artillery on some maps (throwback to bf Vietnam), better class identities across the board. Yes they kept women in the game, and featured things like amputees in the campaign - but this was just more of them trying to satisfy everybody by adding things that were requested by the community. And what did the community do? threw it in their face. Players made up their minds over marketing material, like they always do - like how they decide to pre-order stuff that has a good trailer. Then people got emotionally invested in that decision, and boycotted it for years. The game never even saw its eastern front expansion. THE Battlefield game where the devs listened to players the most, and the message they received was "never listen to the players". So that's what they're doing, going by the data, the actual numbers. Y'all deserve BF6.