Because the plan mirrored what they have done across the season which "seems" to me to be effectivity in every game state. I do think it was the plan for the final. It's consistent.
Replying to @IJaSport
But intentional does not automatically mean ambitious. Organized does not automatically mean courageous. Logical does not automatically mean enough.
My question is not: did Arsenal have a plan?
They clearly did.
My question is: was that really the plan they wanted to show in a Champions League final?
If Arsenal swapped their front three with PSG front three would the game be played differently? Would the teams take a different approach? Would the result change? Why?
Yes, we can see this is what happened. Where is the analysis? I am trying to understand why you think this is? Why would Arsenal choose to play this way? Fear? What do you base that on?
Replying to @Wilson_Anwar
As always Spielverlagerung articles are really interesting, and I actually agree that the future is probably about combining ideas.
My point was less “PSG’s ideology wins forever” and more “in this final, under pressure, PSG kept trying to play while Arsenal relied almost entirely on protecting.”
I understand your point. What I asking is, if Arsenal believed the could out "play" PSG, why wouldn't they? OOP is still playing, it's a component of the game you can't dismiss because of an ideal. This is the process for youth teams; always attack. It's niave for a CL final.
Replying to @Wilson_Anwar
As always Spielverlagerung articles are really interesting, and I actually agree that the future is probably about combining ideas.
My point was less “PSG’s ideology wins forever” and more “in this final, under pressure, PSG kept trying to play while Arsenal relied almost entirely on protecting.”
The chance you refer to is the statistical anomaly that Arsenal conceded their first penalty (legitimate pen) in a 60+ game season. It only took their 3rd choice RB and second choice CB to do it, that is a 21 year-old Spanish international BTW. Not a behavior. One mistake.
Replying to @IJaSport
I saw an article from Soccer Analytics that estimated chance accounts for around 21% of the variance in points awarded in the Premier League.
That means skill, work, and quality matter more.
Of course, but it also means luck is not nothing.
So as a coach, I can’t only judge the game by the result. To me, that is where philosophy actually shows up.
Pragmatism is to do the best you are able to given the circumstances. Arsenal played the holders whose attackers replaced Messi, Neymar, and Mbappe. PSG did not shoot inside the area until minute 117. Near identical chance to the one Arsenal actually scored!
Replying to @IJaSport
And this is where the “pragmatism” argument gets difficult for me.
Because if pragmatism only means “finding a way to win,” then the entire idea becomes dependent on the result.
If you win, it was pragmatic. If you lose, it wasn’t. That feels too convenient.
I understand the defense of your thread you worked hard on. I just disagree. I've explained my points of disagreement without moralizing or bringing into the argument how I "think" the teams "feel".
Replying to @IJaSport
That does not mean my thread is perfect.
Of course I have preferences. Of course I have a bias toward teams that want to play, attack, carry, combine, and solve pressure with the ball.
But the thread was not written from the final result. It was written from the actions I saw.
They are the premier league champions. Your analysis is the level of consistency they produced to win that competition they abandoned in a final because they were afraid?
Replying to @IJaSport
In the first 90 minutes, Arsenal had four shots. Across 120 minutes, around 0.5 xG.
This is the Premier League champion. This is a team built over years.
So yes, I understand the logic, but I still find myself asking: Is that the best version of the project?
Be capable to: defend in low block against elite opp; press high against teams unable to build play; reduce the danger of - transitions; control set pieces in both boxes; commit 6 players to attack against low blocks; etc. They've done each, whenever necessary, all season.
Replying to @IJaSport
To me, “be good enough at everything to find ways to win” is not really a game idea.
It is a results aspiration.
Every team wants to find ways to win.
The question is: how?
Through what behaviours?
Through what intentions?
Through what repeated actions?
Through what kind of football?
This is a great point! Arsenal did attack as much as possible and were able to score 1 goal. "One nil to the Arsenal" is longstanding, deep, part of their tradition. They also defending as much as necessary. Which was a considerable amount against the holders who played less min.
Replying to @IJaSport
My own belief is simple:
You should attack as much as possible and defend as much as necessary.
That does not mean defending is bad. Defending is part of the game. Suffering is part of the game. Protecting space is part of the game.
But the intention matters.
Great rhetorical. Point to an instance a PSG runner was found behind Arsenals last line?
Replying to @IJaSport
That defensive solution made sense. It protected the wide area, but every defensive solution creates a new attacking question.
When Rice dropped, PSG started threatening the space behind him with midfield runners.
If Rice becomes the extra center back, who controls the runner behind him?
The average height of Arsenal has risen year on year to contest arial duels, as well as the profile they purchase; zubimendi, merino, rice, havertz.
PSG is without equal retaining second balls, and it showed.
Replying to @IJaSport
Arsenal’s issue was not just that they defended deep. The issue was that when they won the ball, they couldn’t keep it.
They could win moments. They could not win possession. And without possession, the block never gets to breathe.
This is the bravery you indicate Arsenal lacked. They still found ways to drive forward from deep and still protect themselves from counterattacks (also a PSG strength). They were just unsuccessful because the teams that make it to CL finals are often pretty good.
Replying to @IJaSport
The strange thing is that Arsenal’s best progression came when their center backs drove forward with the ball.
Not through elaborate possession. Not through a long passing sequence. Just courage from the back line.
A carry that forced PSG to respond.
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