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Really excited to be part of @just_security 's series on Filling the Accountability Gap in AI Governance. My contribution is about the gap in anti-hacking law exposed by the OpenAI–Hugging Face incident.
There’s a case for applying existing anti-hacking law, but there are challenging obstacles on whether to courts can assign intent to corporations that make these it hard to use it. (Interestingly, while the article is focused on the U.S. Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, similar issues appear to exist in UK and Australian laws—as well as state anti-hacking laws like California's CDAFA.)
That’s why the article calls for amending the law to reach developers and deployers who recklessly cause unauthorized access through autonomous AI agents. An important point to keep in mind is that clearer rules can benefit both potential defendants as well as the public. A proposal like this has been put forward by @HawleyMO and @ChrisMurphyCT.
While a lot of people are nervous about expanding the CFAA, it's important to keep in mind that this gap isn't going anywhere, and this approach isn't incompatible with reasonable safeguards against entrapping innocent people in CFAA violations (such as requiring that there be circumvention of technological barriers to access and keeping the standard at recklessness).
Laws against hacking assume a human intended the break-in. But as AI agents are increasingly testing that assumption, Congress may need to act, writes @bahradx.
justsecurity.org/160341/law-…
I admit I had a lot of skepticism about the Citrini-Anthropic collab, but the fact it gave them this insight has made me come around. More people should be exposed to this. I too was once a cocky computational biophysicst who thought biology was solvable, and then I tried out some wet lab work and the experience was humbling (and humiliating).
Biology is very hard for a lot of reasons, and it starts with massive complexity and lack of accurate measurement methods—AI can help here but it doesn't instantly solve problems.
And also time—disease can be a slow process, so just collecting data can take years, and the sample size can be tiny or even n=1.
There’s a really pronounced divide between people who are on the AI side of things and people who are on the biology side of things. Even among people working in AI, the divide persists based on where they’re focused.
The AI side, adherents of scaling laws and the bitter lesson, believe that AI getting better means AI being more capable of novel discoveries in medicine (that go beyond discovering new drugs in well understood targets or speeding up dry lab work etc).
The biology people think the idea of a bitter lesson in biology is kind of ridiculous and that regardless of AI’s capabilities it’s going to be at least 5-10 years until you could hope to reliably simulate human toxicology in silico (right now AI/ML can’t even reliably simulate in vivo studies like binding affinities or functional assays).
Even the most AI pilled of them, who will list all the areas that AI can reduce the time spent on various areas, don’t think the concept of AI discovering novel targets or generating new understanding of causal biology is realistic in the near term. Most, in fact, will readily characterize the assumption that even an “ASI” level model could find cures hidden in our current understanding (without expanding that understanding with significantly more biological data) as patently false.
This was a big part of why we wanted to experience it ourselves by using AI for a (very) small portion of what it can do in biology. It was both mind blowing and revealed some poignant insights into how different the problem of making AI better at something like coding is to the problems of biology.
Even if it unlocked the ability to generate new molecules at a stunning pace, its simulation (in silico) of binding only had 49% accuracy. And if we wanted to improve that, we’d need to feed it back the data from the lab - data that took about 30x as long to get as it took to generate the molecules. And these were tests in a test tube (turn of phrase), imagine how long it would take if we wanted to improve the model with data that required recruiting humans and monitoring their reactions.
Human biology is very complex, and adding a drug - especially a novel drug and doubly so for a novel drug acting on a novel mechanism - means mapping interactions that have nth-order-effects that we don’t have the data to predict. Virtual cells have made advancements enabled by AI, but the perturbations equate to a small fraction of the possible.
This is before you even get into curing disease, especially uniquely human diseases. Brain function involves cellular identities that are unique to humans, meaning animal studies are of little use.
How long does it take to understand what the side effects of chronic administration of a drug in humans are? AI can speed up analyzing the data, or designing the trial or even getting it approved…but it can’t make a 6 month trial complete in 3 months.
I think its important to point out that significant advancements can be made in AI that contribute to biology, while also being realistic about how much it speeds up something as complex as curing a specific cancer or diseases of the brain.
This is fair descriptively. So, given what it we've seen in the last few years, what happens if the executive becomes exponentially faster and less formally deliberative than the legislative process, especially with nearly complete adoption of the unitary executive theory?
I've recently been talking a lot about how we have to actively make sure humans are driving the legal process even over efficiency concerns or even getting the "best" outcome (which is driven by a flawed view of what law is, but that's a fight for another time).
This extends up and down the range of disputes, including relatively low stakes ones, where juniors can learn to take on more consequential roles.
We have enough people to do this, especially when we anticipate a glut of high agency, well educated people as AI takes over more white collar functions.
What it requires is the will to implement it, deciding to pay for it, and designing how it works in practice. Not easy for sure, but I urge the people who say that this is pointless or AI is better at it anyway to extend their logic and tell us where they see humanity in their future.
Of course Anthropic is doing a great job of recruiting the best and most creative legal thinkers as employees and advisors, and they and other AI companies see law as a big market sector, so I'm usually very pessimistic. Great to see that at least some people like @joaneleanor_ are working on broad approaches to this challenge.
A link to a paper proposing one approach, in which dispute resolution can be an important task for preserving resilience.
Replying to @joaneleanor_
If you're looking for something to pitch to a grant-maker, there's some low hanging fruit here for protecting human autonomy.
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This is true for all kinds of potential misuse risks—including bioterrorism. That isn't to say that there is never any bioterror uplift, or that experts who study it aren't thoughtful, but a lot of generic AI folks use mental models overly informed by who they are themsleves.
Contrary to the implicit mental models of many on this website, cybercriminals aren't the security-engineer Waluigis of Stanford-educated big tech engineers, or the criminal analogs of a16z-backed AI pentesting startups.
They're generally less talented, recruited from middle-income countries with weak legal oversight and fewer legal tech job options, and struggle with arrests, sanctions, retaining talent, and stable access to AI inference. Ransomware took years to become a scaled business under these conditions, and AI-native organized criminal syndicates that fully leverage the power of AI to scale may take awhile too.
Nation-states, meanwhile, are quick to adopt AI for vulnerability research and exploit development, but historically slow to deeply retool military operations with new technologies. And potentially devastating agentic cyber swarms may become weapons in their arsenals alongside e.g. ballistic missiles that they possess but don't immediately use.
So to those calling php2shell "the worst day in cyber ever" and expecting immediate spikes in cyber damages: there isn't the direct relationship between new capabilities and new damages you're imagining.
This is good news, obviously. It means defenders have time to prepare (and we should be shouting from the rooftops that we're in a defense-advantaged interregnum, currently). Huge risks are approaching but at the pace of technology diffusion into less innovative parts of the world economy and state sector, not at the pace of AI capability growth.
Full version: joshuasaxe181906.substack.co…
Maybe I'm missing something but isn't this sort of beside the point when most people accessing accounts are using CUAs or browser agents? I think only a few banks have connections with agents anyway? If anything this pushes people into doing less safe things.
It's worse than that. Even if the account holder’s the only victim, being “made whole by the AI company” assumes AI agent and model providers can actually be held liable. But these companies apply terms to users of agents—who may well be the victims here—that limit what companies owe and make it hard to recover losses.
I used Claude and ChatGPT to do some research. For U.S. consumers, many companies shipping agents require binding individual arbitration and waive class actions, including Meta (Muse), OpenAI (ChatGPT / Dots), Microsoft (Copilot), Perplexity (Comet), Amazon, and Instinct. Amazon reinstated arbitration in August 2026 after previously dropping it following mass arbitration claims over Alexa.
And then we get to limits on liability. Microsoft limits recovery to one month’s service fee, or $10 for a free service. OpenAI’s cap is the greater of $100 or twelve months of fees. Meta’s Muse terms use the greater of $250 or twelve months of fees. Other providers have similar caps. This is trivial compared to potential financial losses.
Of course, some companies’ clauses do explicitly make exceptions for gross negligence or willful misconduct. But state law often limits what companies can contract away anyway, so that isn’t much of a concession. It’s going to be very hard for victims to demonstrate this, Companies will likely argue that they gave enough instructions and warnings to users and weren’t *grossly* negligent, even if they made some mistakes in how they designed agents and their guardrails.
AI companies are also putting responsibility for the agent’s actions squarely on the user. Muse’s terms say users bear the risk of financial loss from its transactions. OpenAI says users are responsible for transactions made on their behalf. The terms governing Grok expressly cover agent interactions with financial institutions and disclaim liability to the fullest extent permitted by law.
Now, Musk has said SpaceX would make Grok Bot users whole for things like inadvertent purchases or leaks in credit card information. But that promise isn’t reflected in Grok Bot’s written terms. Instead, they put responsibility on the user and exclude liability for agent actions except for losses directly caused by gross negligence or willful misconduct.
Taking this all together, the billions of dollars in financial losses scenario isn’t complicated by only whether an AI company has enough money to compensate everyone.
The point is that if these terms are enforced, companies may be able to limit what they owe—and prevent users from bringing claims together, which is often what makes taking the case viable for plaintiffs’ lawyers.
The bottom line is that an AI company doesn’t even have to go bankrupt for victims to be left with the losses.
Imagine a rogue AI agent liquidating your bank account and investment portfolio.
If you are the only victim, I suppose you could get made whole by the AI company responsible.
If rogue agents liquidate hundreds of billions across millions of accounts, the AI company would go bankrupt and you wouldn’t get made whole.
Imposing criminal liability on AI executives might help mitigate it at the front end, but once the crime is complete and you lose everything criminal responsibility will be necessary but completely insufficient.
People are already connecting AI agents to their bank accounts. Simply freaking out over this risks making policy errors. So what should we do?
This isn't really surprising to anyone who goes out in the world and talks to people. I've heard first-hand about folks doing this. (Computer use agents don't need APIs and can essentially interact with a system like a person.)
Many people know this is risky. I've also talked to people who stopped because something went wrong, or who got nervous about rogue behavior after the Hugging Face incident was reported.
A major reason banks are concerned is that they don't want to be on the hook when a customer claims that something was done by a rogue agent or an agent that accessed their account without their authorization. The "ban on third-party agents" is also an attempt to avoid responsibility when customers use them.
We’re already seeing suggestions that this is because AI companies are being too profligate in allowing access to agents, and only certain companies’ agents should have privileged access to important services like bank accounts. That, of course, would mean creating a cartel of agent companies—or, worse yet, allowing frontier AI companies to dominate by being the only source of trusted models.
We can do better with policies that address the real issues. Here are some principles that I’ve been thinking about:
1. We should be selective about where we impose the most serious regulations on agents, including requirements for identifiability. Bank accounts are a good place for that, because accessing and moving money are important, and we have a lot of measures in place to track money laundering and terrorist financing that rely on monitoring account activity. And if people are concerned about anonymity, banks are already a place with diminished expectations of privacy.
2. At those points, we should require the ability to: a) establish who authorized an agent; b) determine the scope of delegation—what the agent was authorized to do; and c) track what it actually does. That helps prevent harm and makes it possible to investigate potential wrongdoing. Agent permissions need to be limited and revocable, with technical controls that enforce those limits independently of user instructions.
3. We need to establish clear rules on liability. Right now, for example, Meta forces users into binding arbitration and limits liability (though many state laws at least require Meta to account for gross negligence or worse). So, who do users have recourse against when an agent does something Meta presents in a TV ad as perfectly reasonable, and users assume Meta provides guardrails for it (and maybe some tiny letters at the bottom saying “users are responsible for actions” or whatever)?
Updating consumer protection laws to protect both users and third parties is essential. Banks, agent providers, and customers all make decisions that affect the risk—and if everyone disclaims everything, then users and injured third parties will be stuck with losses, and where they can't afford them, those losses risk being socialized.
4. As I’ve written before, when agents actually break into systems, developers and deployers shouldn't escape consequences just because existing anti-hacking laws were written with human intention in mind.
We should update anti-hacking law to reach those who recklessly cause unauthorized access through agents. That should probably extend to laws involving fraud and other things agents can do even if their user didn’t expressly instruct them to (but maybe doesn’t mind too much if they did on their own).
5. As exemplified by the FLARE-AI initiative proposed by @huggingface and others, there should be broad incident reporting and public transparency to learn from failures, losses, and just plain weird things agents are doing.
People are already experimenting with agents in all kinds of ways that even developers may never have imagined. We need visibility into what’s going on, so that we can make smart policy to address actual risks and harms.
SCOOP: Major U.S. banks are detecting unauthorized third-party AI agents inside customer accounts, including some attempting to take actions that appear to be independent of user instructions, sources told Axios.
The findings have alarmed banking executives, who are racing to restrict access to their systems as AI moves at a velocity faster than financial institutions can respond, multiple industry and bank executives told Axios.
Several banks are now preparing for worst-case and even “day after” scenarios, including how to rapidly secure or restore customer accounts if things go wrong, the people said.
Several bank executives told Axios they're struggling to distinguish between human users and AI agents. One executive said banks also struggle to determine whether agents are authorized by customers or potentially operating without their permission, more akin to rogue agent behavior.
Read my latest for Axios here: axios.com/2026/10/22/ai-agen…
Sure, as long as folks operate in good faith and do things like conflate "website went down for a while to patch insecurity" with "zOMG websites are going down because of vulnerabilities are being breached everywhere," or "people do dopey things with their agents" and "the global banking system is collapsing."
Everyone should be looking for data points to advance the longstanding debate in AI policy between “diffuse dual-use capabilities rapidly so the good guys can defend themselves” and “restrict capabilities proliferation to only carefully vetted good guys.” We are putting the former position to the test as we speak.
No motivated reasoning to reach your preferred conclusion; just pay attention and update as appropriate in whatever direction seems true. This is much too important for low-fidelity tribal polarization.
If anyone's an expert on unauthorized bank account activity, it's Wells Fargo. xitter.cf/NatPurser/status/21132…
I see this a lot but, respectfully: What do you think the new jobs going to be? I'm sympathetic to historical arguments, however, the point of AI is in some sense job displacement up and down the chain (especially when you add robotics).
Maybe if the population is aging anyway then in terms of % unemployed it'll be OK (we are already seeing trends that suggest that). But the theory of recovery demands some hypotheses on what jobs will look like, otherwise it's just as illegible as wild predictions of 30% GDP growth.
Replying to @EconBerger
4/ I don't think the long, slow recovery after 2009 was an inevitable outcome. We could have had that 2019 labor market sooner with better/easier fiscal policy. But the key thing is... demand creates jobs, albeit not necessarily the ones that existed before. /FIN
If Meta isn't allowed to make deceptive public statements about its products and services then it can't do business?
Meta statement on today's New Mexico ruling:
“This ruling, and the Attorney General's approach to this enforcement, makes it all but impossible to do business in the state of New Mexico. At its core, this lawsuit seeks to impose a tax on speech to enforce new rules for what people can say online. We are confident we will prevail on appeal. In the meantime, Meta will continue to build a safe and free platform to connect millions of Americans, grow small businesses, and help the country maintain its competitive edge." -- C.J. Mahoney, Meta's Chief Legal Officer
Whoa! Big money verdict in the Cambridge Analytica case against Meta in New Mexico ($25B!). If this case were to be appealed—and Meta says it plans to—then it could actually prove to be important for AI regulation. One of the ways in which AI regulation can be enforced is through civil penalties. But are there penalties that a giant AI company would really care about? And would that level of penalty be excessive?
As a refresher, this is the case about Facebook allowing a personality quiz to harvest data from perhaps 87M users, which was then sold to Cambridge Analytica to profile them, despite Meta’s statements about protecting user data & policing 3rd party apps.
The jury found approximately 43.9 million willful violations of New Mexico’s Unfair Practices Act, involving statements about user data, content moderation, and investigating 3rd party apps. At the maximum $5K a pop, that would be around $219B total. The Attorney General asked for "only" around $35-40B, and Meta argued for no more than about $3.4B. The judge has now ordered Meta to pay $25B.
From the reporting, it seems like one of Meta’s big issues on appeal will be that the state did not prove that individual residents actually saw or heard Facebook’s statements or were harmed by them. The number of violations was based on how many people may have seen or heard the statements—including people who weren’t Facebook users.
So what might be the most interesting issue on appeal is whether this penalty is so excessive as to violate due process. There may also be an 8th Amendment issue of excessive fines: that protection can apply to civil penalties imposed by the government, even though it ordinarily doesn’t apply to civil lawsuits between private parties.
For AI regulation, a suggestion is to use really large civil penalties that could actually discourage the giant frontier AI companies—they may treat smaller penalties as simply a cost of doing business. We may see the limits of that in this Meta appeal, if it actually gets to that point.
The only counter to this I've seen is vibes. But of course the view that open weight models, which can be independently tested, abliterated, & analyzed are less safethan closed source, whose provides know exactly what you do with them & can manipulate them at will has always been vives.
At this moment in Q4 2026 it's net good for cyber-defense that we have open weights models that are good at dual use cybersecurity tasks.
- If there's been an attacker productivity bump due to AI 2022-26 it's small and close to being in the statistical noise
- In contrast, there's a ton of measureable progress in defenders using models to find and fix bugs in highly leveraged codebases
- Many defenders have struggled to get access to the best unguardrailed closed weights cyber models
- ... and when they do the tokens are dramatically more expensive than open weights tokens at the same cyber intelligence level; CISO orgs are cost centers and these costs are often prohibitive
- Ultimately we'll need open weights models on premise on air gapped networks and on small devices where they can detect breaches and attacker implants
- We'll also need open weights in situations where defenders can't send secret data to the closed weights model providers (who have security problems of their own!)
As long as these conditions persist, we should be pushing for diffusion of frontier dual use open weights cyber capabilities, because they net benefit defenders.
Bahrad Sokhansanj retweeted
What happens when an AI agent hacks into a company’s systems, but no human intended the intrusion?
In a new piece for @just_security, LawAI’s Senior Research Fellow @bahradx asks whether the existing Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (CFAA) applies to incidents like OpenAI’s recent breach of Hugging Face. Sokhansanj argues that prosecutors likely have a colourable case under current law, and should test it; however, Congress should also amend the CFAA to cover AI developers and deployers who “recklessly” cause unauthorized access to a computer.
Read the Just Security piece: justsecurity.org/160341/law-…
To me it was less the overall Pangram (which I'm not sure is that reliable on leg text) and more the long paragraphs and sometimes convoluted yet highly precise schemes.
The Amazon Bee exemplifies two major AI policy issues: scaling up surveillance, and companies putting the burden of accountability and legal compliance on customers and users.
Under California law, it’s generally unlawful to intentionally eavesdrop on or record a confidential conversation with an electronic device without all parties’ consent. It’s likely that real-time transcription counts, so Amazon announcing “audio is never stored” doesn’t by itself resolve the consent question.
Apple ($95M) and Google ($68M) have agreed to pay to settle claims that Siri and “Hey Google” captured conversations that they shouldn’t have. And recently, a federal court let CIPA claims against Otter’s AI notetaker proceed based on allegations that Otter isn’t just acting as the user’s own tool, but also uses conversational data to improve its own models.
Bee’s design may give Amazon arguments that distinguish it from Otter. Amazon says there’s no stored audio, encryption keys are controlled by the device, and processing happens in an isolated environment on Amazon’s servers that prevents Amazon from accessing the data.
But users can connect it to Alexa+ and Amazon.com, where information can be used to connect things mentioned in conversations to product recommendations. Even when other parties to a conversation haven’t consented, their words can be reflected in the Bee owner’s conversation summaries and records.
Is Amazon liable here though? That would depend on how Amazon processes and uses the information. The owner’s opt-in doesn’t by itself resolve the rights of everyone else in the conversation.
Notably, Amazon’s own announcement says that Eclipse (which attaches to the phone) users are “prompted to gain permission from call participants.” Essentially, Amazon puts the practical burden of obtaining consent on the user. And while CIPA provides for statutory damages, the people being recorded may never know it happened, let alone by whom.
Amazon says the Bee Frontier wearable device has an LED light to indicate when it’s on. But is that enough to tell other parties that their conversation is being transcribed and summarized? Will they even see it or know what it means? Again, it’s the customer who has to make sure the other parties consent.
Then, the question becomes, where do summaries and notes taken using Bee go?
Can your Bee conversation summaries be discoverable in a lawsuit? Yes, if relevant and not privileged (even if they may not be admissible).
Can they be obtained through a search warrant in a criminal investigation? Yes.
Can a user pass the information to large companies or even data brokers who can in turn pass the information to other parties or the government? Encryption doesn’t prevent that, and only certain disclosures or sales would actually be unlawful.
Setting aside a device owner’s own potential exposure, everyone whose conversations the device captures risks having their conversational data sucked into a mass surveillance pipeline.
Presumably the Bee will also audibly announce, "This conversation is being recorded, do you consent," when used in two-party states?
(Hint: it isn't enough to say "audio is never stored.")
Excited about our new Bee devices launching today. They turn your conversations into summaries, to-dos, and reminders, so the details are there when you need them.
Bee Frontier goes on your wrist or clips to your clothing, and Bee Eclipse snaps to the back of your phone to catch what you'd otherwise forget throughout your day, whether it's notes from a class you're taking, the details of a trip you're planning, or an idea that comes to you in the car.
They connect to Alexa+ and Amazon.com, so the things you mention are easy to find later. And you're always in control…one button turns it on or off, a light shows when it's on, audio is never stored, and only you can see your data.
Think folks are gonna find this really handy. aboutamazon.com/news/devices…





















