
Head of ArsenalOS @Anduriltech | 🌮 4 life | occasional shitposter
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Palmer tells people years in advance what he’s going to do. He’s been talking about building an American made computer for years. He’s been talking about bioengineering dire wolves for years. He’s not just great ideas. He’s great execution.
I just keep this meme saved
We are releasing → classcad.ai today: AI driven embeddable CAD. If you ever enjoyed my OSS projects (zustand, react-spring, r3f, pmndrs), these all came out of CC. 🍻
A small 🇨🇭 team has been working on CAD for so many years, release seemed always out of reach. This is a huge milestone for us and i'd appreciate a RT. 🙏
Looking for our next leader to help accelerate ArsenalOS' sustainment capabilities! Come work with me as we enable @anduriltech's ever-expanding fleet of heterogenous robots across the globe! This ain't a "I've implemented Maximo / SAP PM / ServiceMax / IFS before" style job. You must be a builder, a systems-thinker, a earn-your-stripes-in-the-trenches doer, and absolutely hate to lose! #donotworkatanudril
Here’s the thing. I’ve been on both sides of the coin and know that there’s opportunities to legit contribute to national security MORE in some private jobs than in service. But don’t confuse contribution with sacrifice. No deftech VC is offering to lay down their life.
I think a lot of veterans are paralyzed by the amount of options available to them when leaving service, and as a result, cling onto the first stable thing that crosses their path during the transition. And a lot of these firms know it and exploit it.
Replying to @USinHolySee
Pope Leo confirmed he is rooting for the country of his birth in the World Cup.
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Wanted to add a clarification/followup here.
Have chatted with @packyM directly and more thoroughly understood the sequencing, and I fully retract my implication that Packy and/or Not Boring have acted inappropriately or unethically.
As I now understand it, Packy and Not Boring use the AngelList platform to manage their entities (which lots of funds do!). USVC is, of course, a new fund affiliated with AngelList.
Ankur seems to have asked for Packy's permission to email his LPs. Packy says he did not give Ankur a list of contacts, but that USVC already had a list. Packy said they could email his LPs. Ankur represented they had Anduril permission, and Packy took them at their word.
Ankur emailed Packy's LPs (see attached photo) representing that they had Packy's permission and that they'd "only consummate the transaction with company signoff." I understand Ankur/USVC may have similarly solicited the LPs of other fund entities managed on the AL platform.
Anduril did not, in fact, sign off. We probably don't even have the legal standing to sign off or not, but saying one thing and doing the other is, IMO, a bit deceptive.
One of Packy's LPs agreed to sell their position in Packy's SPV to USVC. This transaction did not require Packy's approval (which is odd to me, but ok). The transaction was completed on the AngelList platform. Thus USVC is an investor in Packy's Not Boring SPV, which in turn does actually own some direct Anduril shares.
Packy's got a fair point that many VC or PE funds routinely have investors that need liquidity for whatever reasons, including diversification, emergencies, taxes, other investment opportunities, or just plain old "I want cash." Anduril has had many early investors in exactly that position, and we've gladly facilitated transactions for folks to get liquidity.
Those transactions, however, are usually *very* quiet and do not result in chest pumping flexes from investors touting their access so as to gin up interest and raise more money for their funds.
Packy also asked me a very reasonable question... why do I care so much?
There are a few reasons. First, honesty is important, and there are genuine bad actors in the secondary markets. Indeed a gentleman just got sentenced to 4 years in prison for fraudulently representing access to Anduril shares: justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/man… My spidey senses start to tingle when I see investors we've never heard of or specifically not brought into rounds representing Anduril access they don't have... what's going on here? Obviously I don't think that is what Packy or USVC are doing here, and I'm explicitly not drawing a comparison between either of them and the Pennetta case, but that case is a main driver why I care about honesty and transparency in these markets. Along those lines, USVC's own website represents the fund is an Anduril shareholder (and not a shareholder in Not Boring SPV). Maybe semantics, sure, but as Packy's followup tweet clarifies, his entity does have a carry that USVC's position would be subject to... do the investors in USVC know that? To his credit, Ankur's tweet thread did clarify the SPV holding... in tweet 4.
Second, transparency is important. Investors buying into USVC (or any other SPV/secondary entity out on the market) have zero access to any of Anduril's financials, strategy, plans, goals, etc, nor do they for any other company they're hawking access to. We've never shared any information with Ankur or USVC, so we know they can't be sharing any (accurate, at least) information with their investors. The angle of "what story are they pitching about us" does genuinely concern me... my cofounder Trae and I have both seen "pitch" decks or, in one case, sat in on a webinar where an investor (not USVC, to be clear) was pitching Anduril with *completely wrong information.* Some of the information was falsely flattering, some of it falsely negative... but false either way. Pretty wild! It's not hard to imagine someone forwarding a deck like that to a journalist or tweeting it out, and then there's a public record of fake information with some vague "sources say" attribution. Not great!
Third, smart companies care a LOT about managing the pace of fundraising, which investors they're targeting for which round, what valuations are justified they can feel comfortable growing into, etc. We genuinely want to make our investors money by spending their cash on growing Anduril through hiring, new factory buildouts, new R&D efforts, etc... and we are *extremely* diligent about who we're bringing into the fold, what promises we're making them, what targets we think we can realistically hit, etc. Every company should be the same! Secondary buyers throwing around inaccurate information to solicit interest or brokers making commission based on transaction *volume* in a thinly traded market is not conducive to our goal of carefully managing growth and investor expectations. Clearly that's not what Packy was doing here, but I can't speak to USVC's side.
So TL;DR - I retract any negative implication about Packy, clearly not his intent to facilitate anything unethical. The reader can take their own position on USVC's conduct.
Replying to @mttgrmm @ankurnagpal
What appears to have happened is that @packyM's Not Boring raised an SPV that we brought into a round a couple years ago. We had spent some time with Packy, gotten to know each other a bit, and he wrote a long deep dive about Anduril and our M&A strategy.
Knowing what we know now, we clearly should not have taken an investment from Not Boring. Future founders, be careful! Might not want to trust Packy and his Not Boring entities.
Packy, for unclear reasons, sold a slice of his SPV to USVC. USVC owns a slice of Packy's entity. We have no visibility or info about Packy's fees or carry, but we do know that entity has not transacted or transferred any of the shares they bought.
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This post states that Packy sold a slice of his SPV to USVC. Packy and Ankur Nagpal stated that Packy did not sell his SPV management company or carry made $0 on the deal and that USVC bought directly from LPs in the SPV seeking liquidity.
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