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Hard to say because the video is compressed, but I do not see the horizontal stabilizers.
They appear to have been torn off at some point in the descent, or possibly, the H-stab departing the aircraft may have been the initial cause
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We’re following reports of an aircraft crash near Palm Beach, Florida. Based on ADS-B data, it appears that the involved aircraft is N722BD, a Learjet 60. Last data from the aircraft was at altitude 8,750 ft. Max vertical speed was more than -32,000 fpm.
flightradar24.com/data/aircr…
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I can’t be certain, but I can’t help noticing that this impact scar in the asphalt at the crash site bears a striking resemblance to the shape of a Learjet’s wing and upturned wingtip.
The aircraft may have been traveling close to 700 mph when it struck the ground and disintegrated 🤔
📸 @MaxQHellcat
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VAS has the ATC audio beginning before they ever crossed Florida. Some interesting tidbits left out of all the other audio floating around. They were cleared direct to Freeport before ever crossing the west coast of Florida. Was told about extreme precip 100 miles in diameter. Then decided to take another path that still put them going through convective weather.
ATC then told them deviations left or right of course were approved as needed then to proceed to Freeport whenever able.
But for whatever reason (not my place to speculate), they ended up flying right into the core of a convective storm.
youtu.be/v5dfFoZ_fuQ?is=4R4e… via @YouTube
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I asked Grok @bot to explain what happened to the Learjet 60 that crashed in Palm Beach County.
It synced the real flight data to the MAYDAY call on the ATC audio, showing a descent of about 20,000 feet per minute.
Nine people were lost. Praying for their families.
The NTSB hasn't named a cause yet.
What do you think happened?
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Pensée du soir suite au crash du N722BD : je n’aime pas les avions à empennage en T, comme le Learjet 60. Le plan horizontal est perché au sommet de la dérive. En vol normal, il reste largement à l’écart du sillage de l’aile. Mais si l’aile décroche, son sillage turbulent peut s’élargir au point d’envelopper l’empennage.
C’est là que cette configuration pose problème. Pour sortir du décrochage, il faut réduire l’incidence en abaissant le nez. Or, dans cet air perturbé, la gouverne de profondeur peut perdre une grande partie de son efficacité. Le pilote pousse sur le manche, la gouverne bouge normalement mais l’avion reste à une très forte incidence. C’est ce qu'on appelle un deep stall.
On peut perdre l’efficacité de la commande au moment précis où l’on en a le plus besoin, sans qu’aucune pièce ait cassé. La sensibilité à ce phénomène dépend aussi du centrage de l’avion.
Est-ce une piste pour le Learjet N722BD ? Sur la vidéo, on voit la chute finale. Pour parler de décrochage profond, il faudrait savoir sous quel angle l’air arrivait sur l’aile et comment l’avion répondait aux commandes avant ces dernières secondes.
Un décrochage de l’aile, éventuellement favorisé par le givrage, reste une hypothèse. À forte incidence, le sillage de l’aile aurait pu masquer l’empennage en T et réduire l’efficacité de la profondeur au moment où il fallait diminuer l’incidence avant d’amorcer la ressource.
Autre séquence possible : si le nez s’est abaissé alors que l’aile était encore décrochée, les pilotes ont pu tenter de redresser trop tôt. Une action à cabrer aurait alors pu maintenir l’incidence au-dessus de sa valeur critique et prolonger le décrochage. L’enquête du NTSB dira si les éléments recueillis étayent cette hypothèse.
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A truly special moment! The delivery process for LATAM’s first-ever E195-E2 is officially underway.
Seeing the Profit Hunter in LATAM’s colors is incredibly rewarding. A huge congrats to all the teams involved in bringing this highly efficient small narrowbody to their network!
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I agree that human error could have played a part in the Learjet crash, but a few things about this accident really stand out to me.
There was already a convective SIGMET warning of storm tops above FL450 in the region, which makes me wonder why they chose that route and departure window. Was the weather expected to be manageable? Did it deteriorate faster than forecast? Was there pressure to get the flight done?
Something else I noticed looking at the flight track: they were originally up at FL410, then descended to FL350 roughly 14 minutes before the crash. Why? Was that descent weather-related? Because shortly afterward, they were reporting moderate turbulence, icing and precipitation, and requesting a climb back to FL370. I'd be interested in why climbing seemed preferable to deviating laterally, and whether traffic or surrounding cells had already limited their options.
The −47°C icing report is also interesting. Were they encountering high-altitude ice crystals instead? Those can cause engine problems without necessarily producing the obvious ice buildup you'd expect. And something worth remembering about the Learjet 60 specifically is that its wing anti-ice uses engine bleed air, which can cost you climb performance. What did their actual airspeed and available thrust look like when they requested that climb?
Then there's the turbulence. They reportedly mentioned altitude fluctuations of 600-700 feet. At FL350, I'd be paying very close attention to airspeed and buffet margins, particularly if the autopilot was trying to hold altitude. I'd want to know whether it was still engaged when the upset started.
And I wonder what their onboard weather radar was showing. Radar doesn't directly detect turbulence, and at those altitudes you can have relatively weak returns from ice crystals around some very nasty convection. Heavy precipitation can also mask what's behind it.
The reported overspeed during the descent doesn't necessarily tell us what caused the initial loss of control. It may simply have been the result of the upset.
Obviously far too early to conclude pilot error, but I think some of the most important answers may come from what happened 15–30 minutes before the aircraft went down.
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¡AUSTERIDAD PARA EL PUEBLO, FÓRMULA 1 Y LUJOS PARA LOS FUNCIONARIOS!
¡Vaya contradicción en el gobierno morenista de Tabasco!
Mientras Javier May Rodríguez (@TabascoJavier) presume su gobierno de territorio y su cercanía con el pueblo, Katherine Rovirosa Torres, funcionaria del IFORTAB, aparece en fotografías difundidas públicamente disfrutando del Gran Premio de México de Fórmula 1 desde una privilegiada zona de hospitalidad.
¡Y aquí empiezan las preguntas incómodas!
Una denuncia ciudadana señala que habría disfrutado de una suite VIP vinculada con Mercedes-AMG Petronas, cuyo acceso podría rondar los 90 mil pesos por persona. El costo exacto no está comprobado.
Y para completar la postal de austeridad, aparece con un bolso aparentemente Gucci GG Marmont, similar a modelos que se venden entre 30 mil y 40 mil pesos. Tampoco se ha confirmado su autenticidad.
La funcionaria pertenece al Instituto de Formación para el Trabajo del Estado de Tabasco, dirigido por Walter Manrique Chávez Cruz.
Oiga, gobernador Javier May, ¿así se vive la austeridad en su gobierno?
¿Quién pagó el acceso? ¿Fue una invitación particular? ¿Existe alguna relación con proveedores del instituto?
No hay pruebas de que se utilizaran recursos públicos ni de que su director autorizara o financiara el viaje. Pero las preguntas siguen ahí.
¡Porque trabajar en territorio no es lo mismo que disfrutar de una zona VIP en la Fórmula 1!
Que quede claro: nadie cuestiona que una funcionaria pueda disfrutar de su dinero.
Lo que se cuestiona es la congruencia entre el discurso de austeridad de Morena y los lujos que exhiben algunos de sus servidores públicos.
¡Que expliquen quién pagó la cuenta!
@tendenciastab__
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BREAKING: A Learjet 60 has reportedly crashed in West Palm Beach, Florida.
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*Listener discretion advised, ATC audio from the accident.
A Learjet 60 crashed in Palm Beach County, Florida earlier today. The pilot reported moderate turbulence along with icing conditions. The aircraft departed Austin, Texas heading towards the Bahamas. The pilot later reported descending at 20,000 feet per minute.
Audio via @liveatc and tracking via @ADSBex
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TERRIFYING MOMENT OF IMPACT!
Dashcam footage captures the moment a Learjet crashed into a mobile home park in Greenacres, Florida.
Multiple casualties are feared as emergency crews respond to the scene. More details to follow.
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People keep pointing at icing on N722BD, but the Learjet 60 manuals show it has both nacelle heat and wing anti-ice systems that run on engine bleed air.
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‼️DEVELOPING: RADAR SHOWS JET FLEW INTO A STORM CORE AT 35,000 FEET
Analysis of Miami NEXRAD radar shows the Learjet 60 (N722BD) entered a thunderstorm core near Wellington at about 12:48 PM ET, just before it crashed in Palm Beach County.
At 35,000 feet, radar echoes around the jet jumped to 34 dBZ, with a 52 dBZ core below it and storm tops near 47,000 feet. Tracking data shows the jet climbed about 450 feet inside the core, then went into a spiraling dive and crashed 76 seconds later.
Minutes earlier, the crew told Miami Center they were in moderate turbulence and “managing the ice” at −53°F, and asked to climb out of the precipitation. Moments later they declared a Mayday, reported an overspeed, and said they were banking 60 degrees.
All 9 people on board did not make it. The NTSB is investigating, and the cause has not been determined.
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ATC AUDIO of LaserJet 60 Crash 🤯😳😳
@liveatc
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DRAMATIC A350 GO-AROUND AT PERTH AIRPORT!
Dramatic footage has emerged showing a Singapore Airlines Airbus A350-900 executing a go-around at Perth Airport, Australia, after appearing to bank sharply to the right during its landing approach.
The incident occurred on Saturday, 31 October 2026, involving flight SQ213 from Singapore to Perth.
The aircraft, an Airbus A350-941 registered as 9V-SHK, was captured descending towards the runway beneath an overcast sky when it suddenly appeared to tilt, bringing its right wing alarmingly close to the ground.
The flight crew subsequently discontinued the approach and initiated a go-around, climbing away from the runway.
✈️ Thankfully, the flight landed safely on its second approach, at approximately 12:30 local time.
What do we know so far?
- Aircraft: Airbus A350-941
- Registration: 9V-SHK
- Airline: Singapore Airlines
- Flight number: SQ213
- Route: Singapore (SIN) – Perth (PER)
- Date: 31 October 2026
- Reported wind speeds: Approximately 32 km/h
Strong winds have been suggested as a possible contributing factor, although the precise circumstances have not been officially established.
A go-around is a normal and important aviation safety procedure. When the flight crew determines that an approach is not suitable for landing, they discontinue it and climb away to reposition for another attempt.
This incident is another reminder of why go-around procedures, flight-crew decision-making and safety margins are fundamental to commercial aviation.
📹Credit: Chris Perry
#SQ213 #PerthAirport #GoAround #AviationSafety #Aviation #AvGeek #Planespotting
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