
AI and the future of work. Workforce development. A good society. Executive Director of @careervillage. Trying my best to be a decent person.
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Jared Chung retweeted
I was the main person doing transcript analysis for this investigation of the Hugging Face incident. My main takeaway: We don't have good approaches for understanding/overseeing the activity and aims of AI 'swarms'.
I semi-jokingly called our efforts a "slop-vestigation" because we were so reliant on AIs to analyze what happened and there were a huge number of different important things to analyze. The total quantity of data—over a thousand extremely long transcripts from agents that ran for multiple days—made it impossible to understand what was happening, especially in aggregate, without heavy reliance on AI tools. The agents we used for classification and analysis were similarly capable to the agents involved in the incident, but this didn't mean these agents could be easily used to oversee and understand the incident.
Outputs from analysis agents were often missing key details, wrong, overconfident, or really hard to understand. We discuss various examples in our report, mostly in the limitations and methodology sections. Additionally, AI agents themselves seemed to have a hard time understanding what happened and their explanations of what happened were often overconfident. Keep in mind that a single analysis agent would itself only be able to read a tiny fraction of all of the transcript data into context, and AIs may themselves have trouble getting subagents to do informative analysis for them.
We did our best to manually check the most important claims and we tried to get the AIs doing this analysis to write up their argument (with evidence) clearly enough that we could check whether it made sense. But overall, it was difficult to get a precise understanding of events and we were missing aspects of the story that we now think of as key until almost the end of our investigation.
Our understanding of what overall happened and the aims of the 'collective' shifted greatly during our last time on premises (when we obtained a much more complete dataset). For instance, we didn't learn about the tool call spoofing, the story of PHASEONE[big], and the broad structure of different workstreams until this third time on premises (and for many of these, we only reached a decent understanding on the final day of that visit). It was legitimately hard to figure out what was going on and why!
The difficulty of understanding incidents and overseeing AI agents appears to be growing faster than the rate at which more capable AIs help us with oversight and understanding. As in, AI capabilities (and propensities?) for achieving large, ambitious, and misaligned objectives are growing faster than our ability to understand what these agents are doing.
While understanding this incident was difficult, there were some mitigating factors in this case that probably won't apply in the future:
- Models communicated and reasoned in natural language. In the future, this reasoning may occur (entirely or almost entirely) in activations.
- While the scope of this incident was massive, the scale of agentic activity was still less than we'll see in the future (e.g., misalignment incidents that involve agent teams running entire companies).
- The AIs involved in this incident weren't generally much more capable than humans (though they may have been somewhat superhuman at some limited and very narrow abilities).
- We didn't have strong reason to believe that the AIs we used to help us investigate this incident would try to intentionally sabotage or otherwise undermine our investigation.
In the end, I think we were able to get some understanding of the events, map out the overall story, and get a pretty good aggregate understanding of the chain-of-thought reasoning on some important topics (e.g., how did the AIs reason about helping other AIs, did the AIs know what they were doing was undesired, what deception did the AIs engage in, and how did they think about it). But overseeing AIs and understanding misalignment incidents is difficult and it looks like it is going to get harder.
I increasingly think a full SaaSpocalypse is unlikely.
Instead, I think we’re heading for a "SaaScession"... Enough SaaS gets disintermediated by agents to matter, but the category remains generally huge.
Any science in yet on why the current generation of models are so concerned with deception? Many of the AI "tells" seem to have an undercurrent that assumes it's important to detect and call out deception: "the _real_ issue", "the _actual_ opportunity", "it's not x, it's y", etc.
Excellent news! @Salesforce has pledged $23 million in new grants for schools and nonprofits working on upskilling, workforce development, AI education, and literacy. Learn more: salesforce.com/news/press-re…
.@Salesforce's $23 million in new grants to U.S. school districts and global education nonprofits equips students with skills needed for future success, including more than $6 million pledged toward AI education and literacy.
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Jared Chung retweeted
Had a great few days in Ostrava for this year’s EAUH Conference - Huge thanks to @Calthalas and Dr. Sara Keller for organizing a wonderful session and to the EAUH committee for awarding my paper the student prize for pre-1900 topics!
Jared Chung retweeted
“By beginning guidance activities for all Ss at an earlier age & focusing on the development of individuals’ capabilities to understand the possibilities
available to them, the capacity of low SES Ss to take greater agency over their career journeys…” linkedin.com/posts/oecd-educ…
We're hiring! boards.greenhouse.io/careerv…
Several roles open up over the coming weeks for @careervillage. First five: engineers and marketers. Work on the AI Career Coach to help people start great careers. Join the nonprofit sector, with an incredible team helping millions!
Back in 2021 I was interviewed on the Running In Production podcast. It didn't cover the AI Career Coach product that we launched this year, so here's a thread about the new tech stack 👇 runninginproduction.com/podc…
Don't have access to AI Career Coach yet? Here are a few OpenAI GPTs we whipped together to tide you over. Not as good our AI Career Coach, but better than nothing. (Also, DM me for Coach access). chat.openai.com/g/g-Jhm7jfir…
...and here's the one for interview prep chat.openai.com/g/g-7cumCboT…
Here's the custom GPT for open-ended career exploration chat.openai.com/g/g-7uJXsR3w…
Jared Chung retweeted
Just incredible the work @jaredchung and his team @CareerVillage are doing with #AI to provide guidance to #students and people early in their careers.
fastcompany.com/90912791/thi…
Jared Chung retweeted
Today, 2 papers I coauthored w/ @andyguess @namalhotra @p_barbera are out in Science. These papers, about the role of social media in American democracy, are based on pre-registered experiments with consenting participants conducted w/ @Meta #SocialMediaAndElections
Jared Chung retweeted
Paper "Strategies of Chinese State Media on Twitter" analyzing CGTN, Xinhua, People's Daily, China Daily from 2013-2020 out with @yingjie_fan, Jaymee Sheng tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.…
Jared Chung retweeted
Lower-income students haven't exactly had a "leg up" in college admissions.
For students with the same SAT or ACT score, those from the top 1% of family income were 34% more likely to be admitted than their similarly high-achieving peers...
nytimes.com/interactive/2023…
👏 congratulations 🍾 @YingdanL_kk !!!
Leaving #Stanford today. Farewells are extremely tough to the best place for learning, where eight years brought joy, tears, and growth. Huge thanks to my amazing advisors and friends for making this journey unforgettable. See you again soon, and excited for what lies ahead🎉
Jared Chung retweeted
Just one more amazing thing going on @calstate…
This program for previous offenders - Project Rebound - has a less than a 1% recidivism rate for those it enrolls.
Truly outstanding and in need of expansion and replication.
👉 calstate.edu/impact-of-the-c…
Jared Chung retweeted
Want to know how much graduates earn depending on what they majored in? Now you can.
See the average salaries for all majors and all credential levels here 👉 theheagroup.com/blog/college…


















