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Nothing concern Yoruba people with religion extremism! Let love lead.
FYI: Bishop David Oyedepo has family members that are muslims infact one is even head of an Islamic sect in Omu Aran. Koko Zaria the Deputy State chairman of Lagos NURTW is his nephew.
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I'm a prince of Oyo, thru d lineage of Adesina, the Arole of Oba Abiodun, and lemme tell u dis 4 free: d fact dat Oyo became an empire doesn't make it greater than our fathers' stool. D Alaafins of old understood this, but u guys keep fighting over unnecessary supremacy contests.
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There is no how a nation can be great without leveraging their cultural heritage and identity. A foreign way of life can not lead you to sustainable development.
Ọbàlùfọ̀n Aláyémọrẹ was the sitting Ooni when he led armies personally to Efon Alaaye.
As Ooni he founded Ilara Mokin
You are just wildly unintelligent. A disgrace.
This is really embarrassing for the entire Yoruba people that Oyos can be this degenerate
What other people?
Is it not yorubaland all of us are? You think people across yorùbáland aren't aware of the history of every corner of yorubaland
Is Oyo not mentioned in Ifá that is learnt across yorubaland.
We will tell you your history since you don't know
I've been seeing your mentions, but not one thing that is from Oyo-ilé
Saki is Saki, Iseyin is Iseyin, They aren't even Oyo subgroup but Oke-ogun.
Anyway I don't want to drag this issue further. My point is only a bastard Yoruba will say Ife didn't give Yoruba recognition
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Because they know their history. Only bastards and the unfortunate deny their history
Lol. We are not even bigging up Ife enough
Wait let me big up Ife as our ancestors did
Ife the place where the sun rises
Ife where the world was created
Ife of the great valley
Ife the city of the divinities.
Great Ife
Omo, if we open history for Oyo ehn.
Should we revisit who Sango actually is and what he did in that axis, the era of the Eleyo Ajori.
The Bariba link. Etc.
If you want to talk of lineage please stop this. Na Alaafin go lose if elders start talking openly.
Omo no wisdom at all
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When you study history, it will be very difficult for people to deceive you, cus all the tricks have been used in the past.
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Seun: Is Lagos smelling?
Gbadebo Rhodes: Yes, Lagos is smelling…
Dr Hamzat: We are working on loading + material loading stations…
Funso Doherty: As a Lagosian, it is difficult for me to agree with anyone who says Lagos is…
Again, GRV’s loyalty doesn’t lie with Lagos.
When people who have actually read history and studied Yoruba traditions extensively call c. 13th/14th century Ife an empire
I don't know why some riffraffs are punching air about it, like how do you think from Accra to Benin City, almost all the monarchies claim to trace to Ife?
This is how you know someone that is not university trained in the humanities but acts like they are on the Internet to give a false sense of intellectualism.
This entire load of rant is based on the false idea that academic historians rely only on written records.
Everything you said is cope, not an argument. I don’t give a fuck what you think or like; only actual archaeological and historical data matter.
More ancient, popular, powerful, and legendary figures have been subjected to them. Orunmila is not special in academic discourse.
“Philosophy” here applies only to systems and methods of thought from Hellenic, Sinic, and Indic frameworks. It has a specific meaning in academia and scholarly works. It’s also a European invented term, lol. The Ifá corpus is more like the Mahabharata, Metamorphosis, Iliad, than Plato’s dialogue.
Don’t confuse wisdom texts with philosophy in technical language. What evidence shows the entire oral Ifá corpus and its ~200 Odus were truly said by Orunmila in the 5th century BC?
Don’t mistake traditional explanations for actual archaeological, historical, and academic data and methodology.
Besides, you guys have made countless strawmen of my original quote, which was simply about Socrates having more historically backed and assured written documentation than Orunmila, Socrates’ historical tangibility, and that there is a great difference between them, unlike what the OP stated.
This along with Ijebu state is not needed.
Okun and Warri states (or rather due to size, merger with Ilaje to form a new State) are more important.
😂😂 A whole Ojima Arujale that left Ife with Oranmiyan but chose to stay at Okeluse don turn to Edo descendant 😂
I like how you miscreants are reinforcing how you can't escape the Yoruba connection you have been trying to run from. You will still come back where you belong
Forget recency bias sef. Yes Ife empire came long before the Oyo empire
But what's more recent than the global recognition brought to the entire Africa by the Ife Bronze heads - true marvel of Yoruba art genius
What piece of cultural global recognition did Oyo give Yoruba?
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Cus tell me why a grown man, a Yoruba at that would say Ife never brought global recognition to Yoruba
Don't you know abt the Ife glass beads, Ife Bronze heads, Ife legacy as source of several monarchies in the West Africa forest belt
There is no Yoruba w/o c. 13th century Ife
I think the biggest problem to historical discourse in Nigeria is that it's in the hands of too many people operating in an uncontrolled environment.
European history operates by scholars trained in a controlled environment, so even content creators must refer to scholars.