Steve Bannon insists that Donald Trump will be president again for a third term in 2028—and that America needs him to. Mr Bannon, one of the chief architects of the MAGA movement, spoke to Zanny Minton Beddoes, our editor-in-chief, and Ed Carr, our deputy editor, in Washington, DC. At The Economist, we believe it is important to engage seriously with people whose ideas challenge our own. The ideas Mr Bannon champions are gaining traction across America and beyond. Watch the full interview on Thursday at 6pm London time: econ.st/48JBpcU