
Happy and proud of our team for completing this phase of the project, hilo.app is now a self fulfilling system that goes from market creation to voting and resolution powered by $hilo token utility and focused on data resolution rather than gambling.
We still have a humble user count at this stage but we’re very satisfied with how the system is working safely and smoothly, now our main focus is scaling user acquisition and bringing more people into the ecosystem, I appreciate everyone supporting us and following our journey.
Around 2% of the total ethereum:0x6c3fe25a4de7fa243c653cfe1f165bf11d99704e supply has already been locked in the first days of the Oracle release.
Users are putting their tokens to work to help provide accurate data and resolve thousands of markets.
Join the Oracle now: hilo.app
Shaco retweeted
Hilo App is Live! The first prediction app with zero risk. Sign up, start voting, and earn now!
.@VitalikButerin is slowly going through the thought process we went through to build Hilo. Would be nice if he could see @hilomarket but there’s too much noise in this space. Anyway we’re going live next week. Stay tuned, we passed 5,000 users on the waiting list in a few days.
Recently I have been starting to worry about the state of prediction markets, in their current form. They have achieved a certain level of success: market volume is high enough to make meaningful bets and have a full-time job as a trader, and they often prove useful as a supplement to other forms of news media. But also, they seem to be over-converging to an unhealthy product market fit: embracing short-term cryptocurrency price bets, sports betting, and other similar things that have dopamine value but not any kind of long-term fulfillment or societal information value. My guess is that teams feel motivated to capitulate to these things because they bring in large revenue during a bear market where people are desperate - an understandable motive, but one that leads to corposlop.
I have been thinking about how we can help get prediction markets out of this rut. My current view is that we should try harder to push them into a totally different use case: hedging, in a very generalized sense (TLDR: we're gonna replace fiat currency)
Prediction markets have two types of actors: (i) "smart traders" who provide information to the market, and earn money, and necessarily (ii) some kind of actor who loses money.
But who would be willing to lose money and keep coming back? There are basically three answers to this question:
1. "Naive traders": people with dumb opinions who bet on totally wrong things
2. "Info buyers": people who set up money-losing automated market makers, to motivate people to trade on markets to help the info buyer learn information they do not know.
3. "Hedgers": people who are -EV in a linear sense, but who use the market as insurance, reducing their risk.
(1) is where we are today. IMO there is nothing fundamentally morally wrong with taking money from people with dumb opinions. But there still is something fundamentally "cursed" about relying on this too much. It gives the platform the incentive to seek out traders with dumb opinions, and create a public brand and community that encourages dumb opinions to get more people to come in. This is the slide to corposlop.
(2) has always been the idealistic hope of people like Robin Hanson. However, info buying has a public goods problem: you pay for the info, but everyone in the world gets it, including those who don't pay. There are limited cases where it makes sense for one org to pay (esp. decision markets), but even there, it seems likely that the market volumes achieved with that strategy will not be too high.
This gets us to (3). Suppose that you have shares in a biotech company. It's public knowledge that the Purple Party is better for biotech than the Yellow Party. So if you buy a prediction market share betting that the Yellow Party will win the next election, on average, you are reducing your risk.
Mathematical example: suppose that if Purple wins, the share price will be a dice roll between [80...120], and if Yellow wins, it's between [60...100]. If you make a size $5 bet that Yellow will win, your earnings become equivalent to a dice roll between [70...110] in both cases. Taking a logarithmic model of utility, this risk reduction is worth $0.58.
Now, let's get to a more fascinating example. What do people who want stablecoins ultimately want? They want price stability. They have some future expenses in mind, and they want a guarantee that will be able to pay those expenses. But if crypto grows on top of USD-backed stablecoins, crypto is ultimately not truly decentralized. Furthermore, different people have different types of expenses. There has been lots of thinking about making an "ideal stablecoin" that is based on some decentralized global price index, but what if the real solution is to go a step further, and get rid of the concept of currency altogether?
Here's the idea. You have price indices on all major categories of goods and services that people buy (treating physical goods/services in different regions as different categories), and prediction markets on each category. Each user (individual or business) has a local LLM that understands that user's expenses, and offers the user a personalized basket of prediction market shares, representing "N days of that user's expected future expenses".
Now, we do not need fiat currency at all! People can hold stocks, ETH, or whatever else to grow wealth, and personalized prediction market shares when they want stability.
Both of these examples require prediction markets denominated in an asset people want to hold, whether interest-bearing fiat, wrapped stocks, or ETH. Non-interest-bearing fiat has too-high opportunity cost, that overwhelms the hedging value. But if we can make it work, it's much more sustainable than the status quo, because both sides of the equation are likely to be long-term happy with the product that they are buying, and very large volumes of sophisticated capital will be willing to participate.
Build the next generation of finance, not corposlop.
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Shaco retweeted
very bullish on the new thesis around @Hilomarket and what @realshaco is building:
prediction markets have a gambling problem and everyone knows it
the original thesis was "markets aggregate information better than experts" and what we got was "sportsbook with crypto rails" for the most part.
the issue:
when you make people risk money to express beliefs, you get asymmetric bets and entertainment seeking, not truth
@Hilomarket is trying something different and moving away from their previous model:
>no liquidity pools
>no money at risk
> just pure signal
you contribute predictions, the system weights you based on accuracy over time and being wrong isn't punished if it's informative
this is actually closer to what prediction markets were supposed to be
the real question: can you build a prediction market without financial incentives that people actually use?
Shaco retweeted
Traditional prediction markets struggle to support even 50 active markets without liquidity issues.
Hilo is designed to handle 1M+ markets daily.
That’s the difference between liquidity-limited systems and real data scalability.
Installable web app on all devices. No country restrictions. Stay tuned.
Shaco retweeted
The Hilo Thesis is now live!
You can find it in our Docs, along with updates to the Help Center to help you prepare for the platform.
Feel free to share your suggestions and ask questions in our Telegram or below.
Shaco retweeted
We’ve been quietly building something to fix what’s broken in prediction markets. Almost ready. Stay tuned.
Hilomarket's next update addresses many of the core issues facing today’s prediction markets, including critical scalability challenges. We’re shipping a fully updated, functional platform with a target release within the next two weeks. @Hilomarket
Predicting the future shouldn’t be built on gambling mechanics and this is something we’ve been quietly building toward, more soon
Tokens are meant to have utility, a role, a use case. $HILO already has over five major use cases, with more on the way. The entire supply is dedicated to the community and the public, none for VCs.
The @Hilomarket team has never paid VCs or listings with the token, nor allowed market makers to profit off volume. $HILO is driven purely by retail and real utility, nothing more, nothing less.
After the Limitless $LMTS situation, you’d think people would start backing teams focused on real progress. We’ll see.
tokens are a long term game. the onchain market making systems are working as intended. today we had a very successful stealth launch and managed to out run the snipers. the proceeds that you see inside 0xBF3132977d9801506deF8E927c4Ff06E5b0801d1 will be used for buybacks in appropriate price ranges as more airdrop recipients exit the network. we remind you that a decent % of circ supply was distributed in airdrops. yet due to insane buy pressure despite no CEX listing, price targets have been increased considerably. as a result, some buybacks have already been initiated.
to the fudders, we are ready to be your counterparty and guarantee the long term health of the network.
to the believers, we are just getting started.
thank you for your attention to this matter. glimitless.
We’re getting very close to making @Hilomarket the most complete prediction market platform, packed with features, accessibility, and endless possibilities.
From predicting and earning to socializing, exploring gamified modes, accessing deep data and analytics, and using developer tools, users and builders will have everything in one place.
Making sure you’ll have Hilomarket pinned on your browser.
Shaco retweeted
Time for a glow-up! Revealing our new logo.
A sharper, bolder identity for Hilomarket, built to reflect movement, precision, and the spirit of user-driven prediction markets.
Soon you’ll be able to build tools, bots, and whatever you want around @Hilomarket. As the first fully user-driven prediction market, I’m proud of how fast our team is moving. There’s a lot of noise out there, only the real ones will last. We’re nearing $200K in flow. Keep watching.
Shaco retweeted
Hilomarket Early Access is gaining momentum.
$140K+ in total volume, $54K in market liquidity, and 200+ user-created markets, powered by our growing community.
Shaco retweeted
Hilomarket is growing: 200+ user-created markets, $100K+ in flow 🚀
Next stop: $1M. Don’t miss the airdrop and earn HILO with every prediction!



















