昨晚和一群圈里朋友聊到1点,大家都意犹未尽。
整理了下当时提到的一些要点:
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创业有投资型,也有投机型。前者由内而外,更多是创造和建设的价值;后者由外而内,更多是发现和匹配的价值。没有高低之分,只看能力、时机和团队。
——谈到荷兰那个独立开发者 Pieter 的“散弹枪”式做法
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交易难,是因为它和其他做生意不一样。普通生意是从地面起飞,交易是先把自己扔进一个坑里,这个坑叫人性。贪婪,恐惧,从众和嫉妒……你得先从这些坑里爬出来,才到得了地面,再往上走才有成绩。大部分人不是输给市场,是一直没爬出坑。
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互联网最大的价值之一是匹配。做账号、做产品、做内容,本质都是在做更高效的匹配。交易也一样。机会分很多种,人也有不同的交易风格。用自己的风格去匹配对应类型的市场机会,才容易出成绩。很多人亏钱,不是因为没机会,是一直在用错的风格去匹配错的机会。
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年轻小伙伴创业,优势是能在一个垂直领域里扎得很深,劣势是对商业的整体理解往往浅一些。
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AI 的智商已经超过人了,但 AI 的智商是 AI 的,人的还是人的。如何借助AI来提升,这个过程拉大人的差距
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公司文化往往就是老板个人风格的放大和延伸。文化是一种意志力的表现形式,或者说载体
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我们常需要亲密关系、稳定且向上事业来给予自己幸福感,来托举自己,换句话说,是确定性在托举我们?
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内耗常是因为错误的标准,错误预期加错的人
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正能给你力量,邪也能给你力量,但最终一定是邪不压正
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把多、空、平做成大大的物理按键,交易回到交易大厅的时代,奇效。这一点和用Agent做交易有异曲同工之妙,文字提示词来触发交易,不去看k线。
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Goat当时发出来多么具有革命性,现在看太小儿科,很多币跌太情有可原了,时过境迁,不是那个定价了,币有币的护城河。
欢迎一起讨论交流!
币安钱包「我的 Agent ID」故事
我的 Agent ID 是 something。
行业里常听到的一些句话是 “something big is coming” 和 “something new”。
但真正值得追的,从来不是那句口号本身,而是口号背后那个还没被完全定义的 something。
something 不是 nothing,也不是 everything。
它是确定中的不确定:没有人能提前准确算出一个新东西推出后会释放出什么反馈、会撞出多大的涟漪。
正是这种无法被提前定价的部分,藏着最多的机会。
Web3 每一次真正的跃迁,几乎都始于一个当时看起来还很模糊的 something。
创新是最好的营销,也是第一驱动力。
行业对“新东西”的渴求,常大于对“已经确定的东西”的重复。
这个名字也是一种态度:
老登不可怕,老登思维才可怕。
无论已经成功还是还在路上,都要持续缩小自己的 ego,保持向前、保持好奇。
something 有财富,something 有乾坤。
这也是我取这个名字的出发点——
Web3 的每一次跃迁,都始于创新;
坚持长期主义,捕捉创新价值,挖掘早期机会。
戒掉无谓的焦虑,把注意力放在下一个可能带来 100x 的新东西上。
我会如何使用 Agentic Wallet?
我想用一种更“Agent 化”的方式去探索 AI + 加密的世界。
最想做的是:用币安 AI Pro 持续搜寻行业里正在发生的新鲜事和创新玩法(新叙事、新机制、新基建),快速形成判断后,直接通过这个 Agentic Wallet 完成买入。让发现和执行之间的距离尽量缩短。
另外也想真正体验一下“让 Agent 干活”的 DeFi:
让它帮我扫描高 APY 的 LP 机会,在设定好风险边界和权限的前提下,自动执行添加流动性、监控、再平衡与调整。
something.ai 不只是一个名字,
它是我准备持续去探索那些还没被定义清楚的新东西的身份。
#MyAgentID @BinanceWallet @binancezh
🪪 币安钱包「我的 Agent ID」故事大赛正式开启!
你的 Agent ID 不只是一个名字,更是你在 AI Agent 世界里的专属身份。🤖
你的 Agent ID 背后有什么故事?为何会使用这个 Agent ID 作为名字?你会如何使用 Agentic Wallet?快来分享你的创意与想象!
参与方式:
1️⃣ 关注 @BinanceWallet 和 @binancezh 并创建你的 Agent ID
2️⃣ 分享你的 Agent ID 截图,并配文发布你的故事,带上话题标签 #MyAgentID
3️⃣ 提交你的推文链接和相关信息:binance.com/zh-CN/survey/710…
🎁 最具创意奖:10 位获奖者,瓜分 3 BNB 奖励池
🎉 幸运抽奖奖:10 位获奖者,瓜分 1 BNB 奖励池
⏰ 活动截止时间: 10 月 31 日 24:00(UTC+8)
👇 评论区见,期待听到你的故事!
新东西|Something retweeted
潜水观察日记 10.22
昨天a16z明牌退出crypto 的消息算是一个行业小地震了,某种意义上来说,也是这个行业的一个新拐点,对于web3这种传统行业与币圈结合的领域是个利空,但是对于纯币圈原生叙事的领域来说,或许会让圈子回归当初的样子,最近越来越多原生alpha 出现了:
1、开始做 @metricxyz 的lp ,和 @something_labs 聊了很久,觉得还是可以尝试一下,我看不少人抱着撸毛的想法,我自己还好,目标就是赚点手续费,而且我觉得目前整体的市场大行情其实是到了一个底部的,全球股市都在崩,但是apec之后我相信整体的局势会缓解,在谈判前先开战试探无论是金容战、科技战还是军事行动都是为了拿谈判桌上的筹码而已,现在 @metricxyz 开通了邀请,所以我也邀请一下,团队背景还可以,非广:app.metric.xyz/r/connectfarm…
2、昨晚的 @Ptahtrade 非常fomo ,我自己也打了点,现在整体的时间线上都在喊下一个ordi ,但是我还是想泼一下冷水,无论是ordi 还是最近的tapeout 生态,都是一开始被人疯狂质疑的,而且经历了比较长的洗盘才起来的,核心在于筹码一定是从早期工作室和p小将手上换到有能力建设的人当中,tapeout 没有 @bitcoin2themars 的“真实建设”——自己买成大户、带大户买、活跃社区、带入资源,就不会有现在的tapeout 生态,所以 @Ptahtrade 这个项目能不能成,取决于能不能遇它的火星人,就靠拿到低成本筹码的p小将和工作室的用嘴建设肯定起不来——最近这2年链上养成的习惯已经是以浇给为荣以建设为耻
说句老登位有点重的话,最好你们只是交易风格是这样,如果现实生活中也如此,肯定会吃大亏
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初阶meme调动的是注意力,对应经典的注意力经济。
中阶meme调动的是想像力,可称为想象力经济。
高阶meme调动的是什么呢?
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玩家参与角度上来说
一阶信念是个体对项目本身的直接判断,对象是项目本身
二阶信念是个体对“别人怎么看这件事”的判断,对象是他人的一阶判断
所以进度条是个好东西,它能对齐和强化二阶信念。
价格也是一种进度条,但是因为波动,常常会把叙事打断
dev干的事情是三阶甚至四阶的,玩的是预测“别人会在什么时候开始相信别人已经开始相信”
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很多项目常常经历几个卧槽时刻
卧槽(唾弃)——卧槽(惊奇)——卧槽(惊叹)
——卧槽(叹服)
不同卧槽的演变就是mem的不断rebase,re解释
然后不断积累一致性,然后走向高阶(好像摸到高阶的边了)
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简单说“不能有偏见”并不准确,我们很难在事前同时持有“这是垃圾”的正确偏见和“这可能是那少数例外”的可能性,运气和能力,事后项目方自己都很难区分,大部分还是dev生,市场养。
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虚虚实实,实实虚虚,你觉得他勾兑,实际他没勾兑,你觉得他没勾兑,实际他勾兑
你觉得勾兑时,或许已经包含了过度的风险溢价,反之可能过度乐观。
抛砖引玉,欢迎讨论
@heyibinance @connectfarm1 @imsongshu @youyou5202
Metric referrals are now live.
Everyone can create their own referral link via app.metric.xyz/referrals
More information about the benefit of referrals will be revealed next week.
不愧是在BNB CHAIN上拿过奖的团队,大致学习了下POB的玩法,着实蛮细的。
以往的meme买卖都是一手交钱一手交货,前几天的交易量和买盘比较猛,此后就衰减。
但是社区建设是需要时间的,所以往往筹码已经开始派发,社区才刚有雏形,下山的人遇到上山的人。
还有VC币,基本是钱一次性打入,但是币是分期vesting,购入价格是统一的。
面临的情况就是用户回本之后,持续的抛压。
@tapeupio 这次整了个Proof of Build Trading Engine,用这个方式公平发射。
买入资金会被分成两块,一次买入30%,剩余70%资金25天线性购入,后面购入的价格是实时的市场价。
然后有一个Builder Code机制,填写别人的Builder Code,可以加速20%,剩余的再继续线形购入。
举例:买入100 $BEM的U,填写有效 Builder Code(这里还分主动和被动,分配建设税时可能权重不一样) 后
——立即买入仍然是 30%
——额外加速原始预算的 20%(即 20 BEM),这部分从待执行的 70 BEM 里提前执行
——所以早期执行合计大约是 50%(30% + 20%)
——剩余约 50%(原来的 70% 减掉已加速的 20%)继续按原来的25天线性规则购买
协议有两块收费,分别是1%的交易费和1.5%的建设税。
收入分配这块,这次也表达更细了。
注意:初期阶段,不能在gmgn上面买,只能在 tapeup.io 上买,且必须遵守 PoB(且流动性永久锁在这里面),后期达到预设的跨链中转阈值,可以在外部买卖,不受POB限制(但流动性要市场自己加了估计)。
细节还有蛮多,怕说错了,欢迎@tapeupio 指正
对很多持币者来说,第一条内容是最为关键
团队解释了为什么目前坚决不让 PAPER 代币可转移(有永续合约团队联系官方想做 $PAPER 的预市场)
因为$PAPER 本质上是对“协议未来还能不能赚钱、流动性池还能不能继续偿付”的一种权益凭证
以前攻击者只是靠操纵Hyperliquid 的中间价,套取bankroll,这个成本不小,且随着平台的机制完善,不一定有利润,但是再加上做空$PAPER,就不一定了,池子受到攻击,$PAPER基本就是大跌,做空能赚不少。如此就大大提高了攻击的意愿。
最终能否开放,还是要取决于团队能不能找到让外部 perp 空头不再威胁协议偿付能力的解决方案。
A note on transferability.
Papertrade is a complicated primitive, and managing it from a risk standpoint is a complicated problem. The PAPER token is far more integrated into the economics of the primitive than most tokens are in their respective protocols today, and, broadly, was designed to act as a counter insolvency incentive coupled with a rebate mechanism to losing traders. Market makers and exchanges are by far the two most profitable businesses in crypto, and our goal was to try and externalise as much of their margins back to users as possible. We are now just over a week into the life of papertrade and we are becoming increasingly confident that this is both possible, but also a likely outcome as agentic led software becomes the norm.
As it stands, the paper token traded as a perp becomes a leveraged bet on bankroll solvency - and being able to short bankroll solvency materially changes the payoff curve of a manipulation attack. The target number goes from the bankroll, to the bankroll + short side exposure on paper. We can, and do limit bankroll size specifically to control this payoff curve and ensure it never becomes existentially problematic, but external perp markets are not something we would have any control over if left to float of their own accord. For example, if our bankroll is $10m, an attack costing $15m manipulating the price of bitcoin or ether is not viable. You simply lose money. If however you were also able to put on $10m of PAPER short side exposure, suddenly an attack costing $15m is very viable indeed.
If we were to make the token transferable at this point, we are confident we would quickly enter a state too dangerous to allow any material exposure to be taken on papertrade, an end result that benefits no party beyond the wolves who have done the math on the short and are waiting in the wings with sharpened knives.
We would also like to thank the various perps teams who have reached out about pre-market listings for their understanding and patience regarding this issue, and especially to the paragon team who, despite jumping the gun on us, have behaved with the utmost integrity and transparency once a dialogue was opened.
Perps on PAPER will always act as a self-limiting exposure ceiling for a token with this type of utility, and we think it would be a shame to limit the growth of papertrade to the extent that allowing perps would necessitate. As such, at this juncture we do not have plans to allow off-contract token transferability.
Structurally, papertrade is limited by the quality of the data it receives from hyperliquid, but we strongly believe that hyperliquid has a very large part to play in the future of global exchanges, and expect their books to continue to thicken and strengthen over time.
A note on fees.
Papertrade launched with a deadband fee from entry of 0.2bps. This means you don't earn anything until the price has moved by 0.002% in your favour. Over the months before launch, we played around with many different curves and fee structures affecting exclusively positions closed very close to entry price in order to try and devise a structure that removed the edge against the bankroll low time frame scalp bots have, whilst also minimally impacting the traders around which and for whom the product was devised. We were never able to find anything we were absolutely happy with and so decided to stay with the 0.2bp deadband fee through launch. This has however meant we have had to be very restrictive when it came to certain parameters, such as OI caps.
Now, however, we have enough live data to fully understand exactly which strategies work, and to make the necessary changes to stop them. The changes we are making will have an on hours and off hours fee mode to account for the relative differences in liquidity the hyperliquid books see between these two time periods, and the ease with which low time frame moves are signalled. The changes we are making will only affect positions closed within 6bps of entry (0.06%) in on hours, and 10bps (0.1%) in off hours. Any trades closed above these threshold price shifts will see no change to their fees at all. On a look back to launch basis, these changes affect the profitability of bot strategies roughly 15x more than they do normal traders, for whom a very small proportion of overall winnings come from within this band.
These changes should serve to flatten much of the edge our microfee structure necessarily creates on low time frames, and will help with long term exchange sustainability. This should hopefully allow us to open up parameters such as OI caps a little more so those of you who wish to can put on the size you want to, when you want to.
It is possible these changes are still too lax, and that further revisions to this structure may be necessary going forwards. If so, we will notify users ahead of time.
A note on paper tokenomics.
In conjunction with the fee changes, we will also be implementing a change to the token issuance curve.
Going forward, every $1 lost mints a fixed share of PAPER's supply at that moment, roughly 0.1% of supply per $1M lost (the exact number depends on the mint rate at the time the contracts are upgraded). PAPER minting in and near insolvency will also change, switching from a flat 100 per $1 of loss, to a time weighted multiplier on the curve growing over time, effectively acting as the house running a discounted auction on its own future cash flows. This change also removes the risk of the paper-mint-straddle-attack, temporarily pushing the protocol insolvent by closing only the winning side of a large straddle position and then attempting to mint as much paper as possible.
In the immediate term these changes will only have a very subtle effect on PAPER minting, but in the long run will structurally change the outlook of the system beyond the first few weeks, serving to slowly dilute out older holders and leaving more recent users with an advantage. Reconstituting the PAPER system into something much closer to the exchange rakeback it was intended to be.
We have been very reticent to touch this particular aspect of the system for obvious reasons, but ultimately we believe that these changes provide all users with the optionality to take a smaller piece of a potentially much larger pie than the current dynamic might necessarily allow.
Other, miscellaneous notes.
These contract upgrades will include a few other contract changes, including the addition of builder codes so that builders can utilise papertrade in whatever capacity they choose to. This will be a whitelist only to begin with and we will have more for you later in the week on where/how this will be rolled out. A small change to contract permissions on the reward distributor and a change on how below bust closes are processed by the exchange are also included, largely to block gas griefing attacks.
These changes will be pushed to docs in full over the coming day, and we will further announce once the changes are queued into the timelock pending final security passes, scheduled to go live 24 hours after that point.
Final note.
We'd like to thank everyone that has tried out papertrade over the last 10 days. It has been a labour of love building this product and both of us have been taken aback at all of the positive feedback we have received. We'd also like to thank all those of you who have spent considerable time musing on the system we have built, and much of your advice has been taken onboard and will likely affect the colour of what papertrade becomes going forward. We know some of these changes will be unpopular with some, but we would not be making them if we did not feel them to be absolutely necessary.
- blurr, jez
麻吉提出的建议是学习 @standard_rsv
让PAPER 的转移和交易尽可能放在协议内部或受控环境里完成,然后转移和交易时产生的手续费回流到bankroll
然后是last man standing mechanics,持有者想退出/提取收益时要交动态退出费(退出人多时,提高退出费),退出费一部分销毁或回流协议,另一部分直接分给留下来的人
@machibigbrother
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周末陪娃在天虹玩弹珠机
投5颗开一局,开局前会出倍数:2、4、6、8、10倍。
一次出50颗,就得一张卡片,游戏的主要目标是多拿卡片
旁边一位高手的打法是:
大部分时候出2倍,他只放5颗,摸鱼
一出6倍,就放50颗去博300
到了10倍,反而减少,因为概率太低。
看着看着,想到了交易···
之前Rh和Arb联合搞的黑客松项目里,跑出了StonkBroker这样的百倍项目
这次呢?
一起来看前三的项目
公开组
第一名:@zona_io (40k)
Robinhood Chain 上代币化股票的借贷与交易层。
第二名:@peridotprotocol (20k)
跨链借贷、借款 + 针对 Robinhood Stock Tokens 的多空市场。
第三名:@AquaZero0 (10k)
稳定币发行方和市场做市商的流动性层。
潜力组
第一名:
@LockgateFinance($7K)
为代币化私人信贷(tokenized private credit / RWA credit)提供提前退出基础设施
第二名:
@AutoRangexyz($5K)
非托管的 AI Agent,自动管理 Uniswap V3 集中流动性仓位,保持一直在区间内
第三名:
@atoma_fi($3K)
市场中性的 USDC 金库,跑在 RWA 永续合约上
目前都是很早期!
都在玩小圈子了么?
@boredGenius 索性把它做成一个产品
比比谁的“局”更炸
为阴谋集团准备的交易工具?
Sudoswap的联合创始人做了这个项目 @cabaldotcooking
——隐私版的fomo
简单讲就是可以在一个私密群组(Cabal)内互相call,外面人不知道,发出call之后群组内有人跟,就有20%的交易手续费提成,一天限call3次。
建Cabal群需要有Hushpuppies NFT(要白名单),创世1000个,之后每天通过荷兰拍卖释放1个
虽然他们品牌名字就是Cabal,但是场景也不仅限于组局的,很多alpha小群也是目标用户。
@boredGenius
Been heads down building the Cabal app and it's coming out soon! Website is out at cabal.cooking
If you want to learn more about the app, NFT collection, and token, give this a read🫡

















