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๐ธ urule ๐บ semi retarded trader ๐ผ retweeted
We raised $1.2M to hand agents the means of computation.
We're building the rails for agents to provision their own compute, hardware and first-class private infrastructure.
things happening in the big wide world
@CryptoCronkite you gonna love it
theguardian.com/world/2026/oโฆ
Good post!
Zcashโs answer is pretty clear imo. Imagine openAI announces โWe have a cryptographically relevant attack on ECDLP, that goes public in one weekโ.
Zcashs response would be to call an emergency 24hr token holder vote for pausing all the ecc, which itโs prepared to do, and then all miners independently decide if itโs legitimate. If miners agree, which itโs unclear why they wouldnโt, ecc is frozen well within time.
This is the quantum recoverability plan, itโs the exact same for another ecdlp break.
Reminder right now, everyone is panicking off of 0 demonstrated progress, and instead concern about the hypothetical of a nation of geniuses in a data center.
๐ธ urule ๐บ semi retarded trader ๐ผ retweeted
Everyone is free to make their own decisions on allocation. I applaud decisive decision making. No specific comment vs OP below, in fact am not super familiar w metavestor so truly have no pro/against him/her personally
Speaking to the points:
1) Measuring for tail events is savvy as a personal wealth decision. Everything worth doing however, usually has some sort of drag / burden / hurdle to it. Measuring & checking against priors is something you pretty much have to do with everything. It may feel unacceptable to some that the underlying asset in of itself faces security risk. That is understandable. To me, that is a category of risk that the market has actually shown itself as being ready to digest in capacity over time: bridge/exchange exploits, LUNA, Celsius/FTX, USDC depeg, etc. It is not equivalent of course, but they all speak to binary sponsorship unravelling & going to 0
BTC's history in fact predates this as -
2) I would argue that total perceived risk was actually much higher: RE: custody risk + rug risk + adoption risk + legal risk being elevated in BTC's infancy; namely an existential question to whether BTC would even graduate to being a social consensus asset. The reason this risk existed is probably a big primary driver of its return
So let's just be clean about this: the risk reward PROFILE isn't appealing to the author. The risk in an absolute sense itself is not the issue - in fact, it seems the author actually prefers HIGHER absolute left tail existential risk if anything - biotech RE: the most risk probably of any industry, see picture attached). Maybe the precision element is meaningful to the author though. This is not meant as a "gotcha" comment. Intended to be exploratory, because I do not think the sentence written as-is actually makes sense
3) "Does this make you want to long crypto?" - a peer of mine writes. In an absolute sense, no. That is obvious. However, does the escalation in the war on Iran make you want to long QQQ? Did Liberation Day make you want to long memory? The reason I bring this up is that markets rarely move on the margin on things that are *true* in an absolute sense. It is probably the 3rd, 4th or 5th derivative that matters. So not 2026 revenue, or QoQ revenue growth, or guidance on QoQ revenue growth, but rather what consensus was on QoQ revenue growth, and the actual โฒ beat/miss b/w Q2 reported & that
The reason this is important to bring up is that if there was some advancement in AI that specifically attached to crypto and only cryptocurrencies, that is net bearish ubiquitously. A potentially emerging super-cracker that can crack anything is just horrible for all things finance; this includes attaching/attacking bigger vulnerabilities & bigger industries with more liquidity. But in a world where there are bank runs and resulting anarchy, I think there is an argument to be made that permission-less currency ends up gaining MORE relative value net overall, especially vs fiat. Do you know how hard it is to withdraw even $10K cash from a bank? Do you actually think your bank / the gov't is going to step in and cover you? It is probably investing calories on what this draconian world looks like. The more concept of money would be very challenged - your passwords included.
4. I think the author misses or misunderstands what quantum concerns are. Quantum FUD and AI FUD is exactly the same. Which is: assuming unbounded leaps in progress that the human capacity cannot account for yet [assuming weeks, not years] it is theoretically possible that cryptography is cracked
Lastly, the author writes that the appeal of crypto initially to him/her was the tech, and that may/does not appeal any longer. That is a strong claim, but that was easily the case 2 years ago, and at the minimum 1 year ago. I just mostly think the author did not update his/her priors on this, and, like many do, use interesting events like this as an excuse/push to do something they had wanted to do for a while anyways
Ultimately, it seems that the author's argument is that banks are Too Big To Fail, which is why Drake's update is uniquely bad for crypto. I do not agree. Monetization of hacking is actually really worth thinking about & what that looks like too
My stance -
1) The Drake update will be a positive one in hindsight and may actually elicit real change with people taking preventive measures more seriously
2) Custody probably moves toward being coupled (so not DEFI) and around ETFs vs cold storage
3a) This was not the reason for the sell-off. You do not have to take my word for it - BTC and QQQ are down the exact same amount (~80 bps) since Drake's tweet. The OpenAI $20B revenue miss has more to do w risk pop than this, in all likelihood
3b) If Drake's update made you want to short, 3a) isn't actually bad for you if you think the mkt has not moved sufficiently on this, as it has yet to happen. If you are under writing this as the reason for being short/bearish, I believe you are mistaken
4) Apologies for all this word slop - it is worth noting though that I am bearish locally. Just had to make it clear it is not because of any of this
Honestly, I sold most of my spot crypto and offboarded today. It's just not worth the headache.
I don't want to check every single headline about AI math and cryptography research wondering if I'm about to get rugged. I don't want to wonder if every ancient BTC address making a transfer is ECDSA being cracked.
I had already refocused most of my time and energy on equities at this point, and Justin Drake's post just killed the rest of my desire to hold crypto. This isn't impulsive, I read hours of counterarguments.
1. People say this is incredibly unlikely. I just don't trust any human to predict the capability ceiling of superhuman mathematical AI. Have seen people be wrong about AI capability ceiling over and over.
2. What if I miss the next great bull cycle? Honestly, that's fine, there's plenty of other assets to trade with less stress of existential left tail risk.
3. People say that we would have bigger problems. Yes, I know that banks etc would also be at risk and society would be a clusterfuck, but the government should step in to save my money (and society) at that point. I don't know that they will for crypto. Plus, why would a malicious practitioner rather burn the whole world down over just stealing infinite crypto?
4. People say this is just like Quantum FUD. Nah, this is much more concrete and near term. This doesn't require a new scientific breakthrough, only the continued march of AI progress that we've been scaling on for years.
I got into crypto as a techno optimist but there's other investment expressions of that now. The development of AI (and recently the intersection of bio x AI) is more intellectually interesting to me. Being in crypto feels like being short AI progress, and I do not want to be short AI progress.
This is not investment advice, everyone should decide for themselves how they feel about the topic. I am just one random human being on the internet, expressing my thoughts.
Gm @ether_fi now makes more money than lighter but still trades at 1/5th the market cap
They have extremely strong and consistent week / week growth
All spending, user, cards, etc. metrics are at all time highs
They just launched a stablecoin with @ethenaโฆ imagine a stablecoin with over $1.5b of real yearly spendingโฆ not p2p transfers or defi chain switching loops or whatever
Theyโre going into the most fruitful consumer spending quarter (Christmas / Black Friday shopping)
Andโฆ they havenโt even done the Q4 holders call yet where weโre expecting them to launch perps ๐
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