Bloody awful views, often thieved from more sanguine people.

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Joined November 2015
There is considerable discourse about the UK PA project, so hoped it’d be helpful to distill info into 🧵 s 1: History of the PAs in the UK 2: Comparison of US vs UK PA courses 3: Breakdown of the PA Framework 4: Study of the PARA Content Map 5: Costs of employing PAs vs Drs 1/
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An oldie but a goldie. Stephen Powis repeatedly reassuring the public that PAs are trained for “specific tasks” but to date, there is no standardised scope of practice outlining these specific tasks, and what they cannot do without medical qualifications and licensing.
There is overwhelming evidence that the policies & funding of NHS England & GMC are set on replacing Drs with PAs When stating PAs have been integral to the NHS for 20yrs they are lying 2015 there were just 15 PAs in General Practice / 109 in hospitals
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Another MP keen to devalue doctors. I can understand and support the impetus to speak up for nurses. But yet again, this MP shows how quickly MPs and Govt conflate two very different roles, and rush to devalue doctors, often to push unsafe Dr substitution agenda.
This from RCN is archaic, misinformed & untrue. “nurses tend to be more replaceable than doctors” Anyone working in an acute specialty knows the value of experienced nurses & Jnr doctors learn much from them. Jnr docs on rotation are 100% replaceable. Skilled nurses are not.
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It’s a failing system that pays more to someone doing a job without qualifications (noctors) than to highly specialised nurses, pharmacists, PTs etc. It is criminal that ACPs are paid more than CNSs or specialist pharmacists Which tells you what the ACP role actually is 1/
Few people want these gutter-level roles anymore because the NHS has made them poorly paid and poorly valued. So the solution is to throw a few extra pounds at them, hand out a stack of modules, and dress them up as cheap doctor substitutes. And then call it “career progression.
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This is inefficient, ludicrous, and means that instead of using the AHP skillset we have, we use them for a role they’re not trained to do safely, and then what? Hire another AHP, often junior, or when senior, underpaid, to provide expertise this AHP SUPPOSEDLY provides? 5/
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You cannot have one person do two roles and call it an MDT either. Highlighting this as nonsense is suddenly called elitist, but let’s seriously look at what is being peddled and ask ourselves why we’re accepting this as safe healthcare. 6/6
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I’m unsure I’ve interacted with @DW8674 but I’d like to highlight these accounts who ask these questions, provide an answer, having blocked almost everyone who CAN provide an appropriate answer. Echo chambers but also arguing in an empty room and being thrilled at winning.
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In the NHS, if you improve efficiency and patient flows so that you have a fairly empty waiting room, this can be seen as a sign you are ”not working hard enough”. If you don’t do this and your wating room is full, this is often seen as being “over-worked” and “under-resourced”.
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For any high risk industry, you would seek out someone who is qualified and regulated specifically in that. If the @NHSuk has decided Medical qualifications, training, & regulation are unnecessary to practice Medicine, this is the expected outcome. Where is @YvetteCooperMP
Negligence claims rising over roughly the same time period doctor substitution has massively increased, especially in ED’s Clearly this isn’t evidence but it’s logical to suggest that neglecting appropriate qualifications causes harm Any journalists want to join the dots?
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I think the replies to this are probably the best explanation for why America is a bit of a bin fire at the moment 😂😕 It’s a joke, guys. He’s joking. I thought it was quite funny. We don’t actually sue everyone for fun, btw.
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A disappointing and predictable outcome to “ask your questions and I’ll answer” Is there someone more senior at UMAPS who could answer these questions, @pa_StephenNash? I appreciate if you’re less knowledgeable on this stuff.
Here are the questions, Stephen. Across two posts. I’d be grateful if you’d now answer, given that you’ve offered and say you have the answers:
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I can’t reply to this thread, so I’ll reply here. @RobSetters - I am actually research trained, as it happens. I have analysed the research presented in the way I have been trained to analyse research. Please provide me examples showing ACP/ANPs are safe to see UDF pts 1/
Then you provide them with evidence that ANPs, ACPs or others are safe then suddenly they become research methodology experts.
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You can’t complain that everyone is a methodology expert when you’re talking about people specifically trained in critical analysis, because you don’t agree with their critique. The point of peer review and public analysis is that research should be able to withstand it 2/2
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Admittedly I am not a financial expert. However, I did have a couple of questions The UMAPS Levy was passed in Dec 2025, imposing a one off £45 fee from each member, and a further £17/m increase in subs pay for membership to fund legal action The TU claims 1700 members 1/
For anyone needing proof that the MedTwitter anons don't actually understand half of what they confidently post about, this is quite a good one. UMAPs Trade Union is a separate legal entity. It has its own books and its own accounts. What they're waving around here are the accounts of the limited company that originally housed the trade union, not the accounts of UMAPs Trade Union. The TU books are separate. That's it. That's the big mystery solved. What's actually quite remarkable is how much research they've apparently put into this. They've found comments I've made months ago, looked up our membership fees, worked backwards from the PA workforce, estimated our membership and then apparently sat waiting for these accounts to be filed so they could run a thread about them. And after doing all of that research, they didn't bother establishing whose accounts they were actually looking at. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good smear campaign... I do wonder what else they're willing to research extensively, form very strong opinions about and then confidently present themselves as experts on whilst missing fairly fundamental facts. Wait... what do they say about associates again? The sad thing is that we knew this was coming. We knew that when these accounts were filed there would be people desperately looking through them for something they could use against me or the trade union. Being proved right on the day they're submitted is actually quite satisfying. I'm perfectly happy with scrutiny. It comes with the job. What I find increasingly telling is the extraordinary amount of time and effort some anonymous accounts dedicate to trying to undermine me and UMAPs personally rather than engaging with the things we're actually saying. At some point you have to ask yourself why. If we're so ridiculous, irrelevant and wrong, why are you watching this closely? Why are you trawling through Companies House? Why are you digging through interviews from six months ago? Why are you researching our membership fees and trying to reconstruct our income? They clearly see UMAPs challenging their narrative as enough of a problem to warrant the effort. That's probably the most interesting thing about this thread. There is a serious point underneath all of this though. If this is how people respond anonymously when somebody challenges them publicly, I genuinely wonder how they respond to challenge in the workplace. What happens when a colleague disagrees with them or raises concerns about their behaviour? Do they engage with what's being said, or do they try to discredit the person saying it? We talk endlessly about bullying, harassment and culture in the NHS. Perhaps the people so determined to scrutinise me should occasionally reflect on the behaviour they're displaying themselves. And @ExplosiveEnema2, now that you know the fundamental premise of your thread is wrong, I would expect a full retraction and apology for the harm caused from any professional who had made allegations like these publicly. Given my previous experience of anonymous MedTwitter accounts correcting the record when they get things wrong, however, I won't hold my breath.
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This is alongside UMAPS stating AAPA had also donated to them. I’m just a little curious about costs. I’d be really grateful if those who are legally versed, or indeed UMAPS themselves, would educate me further on this 7/7
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Some pertinent outstanding questions: - How many members pay the levy? - How many members at essential/advanced membership? - How long has the levy been operating (passed in Dec 2025, I assume active since Jan 2026 but happy for clarification)? - What are the legal costs?
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