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Joined April 2009
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I think it’s more that personal AI assistants enable people to do more, and as a result, end up creating more complexity in their lives (more personal projects, get more ambitious, etc.) They are a self-perpetuating product where using them well creates their own need.
When it comes to *mass adoption*, personal AI assistants (Instinct / Muse, etc.) are solutions looking for a problem imo. The vast majority of people in the world do not have a life sufficiently complex to warrant agentic orchestration.
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this is not something you’d post if you thought RSI were imminent
I'm actually fairly bearish on frontier lab valuations. I've never seen the reasons articulated to my satisfaction, so before I go to sleep, I wanted to quickly jot down my thinking here. The basic issue is that the labs are highly unprofitable. This may seem like a simple point, but private market valuations can be relatively irrational; however, like with $SPCX, post-IPO pricing will likely be much more punishing, especially as the standard 6-month lockup period expires and selling pressure intensifies. Many people claim that the labs have high margins. Yet even with high margins, a valuation of $1T would be justified only if the labs were doing nothing aside from serving inference (thus reducing costs only to those relevant to inference) and posting annual revenue numbers in the $100-200 billion range assuming ~80% gross margin and a 20x earnings multiple. This assumption is obviously not true, because the frontier labs have to continually spend money training the next generation of models. This is because of market competition from runner-up firms. For example, if OpenAI had paused model development last year, there would no longer be any point in paying GPT-5 API prices when you can just use Qwen or Kimi instead for much cheaper. Thus, the labs are forced to invest ever-increasing amounts of money in model training, in a way such that at any given point of time, the amount you're forced to invest in the next model is dramatically higher than the amount of money you're actually making, because even if your revenue goes up with higher model capabilities, so do your future training costs. This is a profoundly punishing dynamic which severely penalizes frontrunners. (There is also a related subpoint where frontier labs claim they can distill their leading models to win out at lower intelligence levels as well. This makes no sense because the revenue numbers involved are far too low when taking into consideration the rather low margin of such inference.) Frontier lab valuations appear largely to be based on the assumption that as you scale up, the capabilities which emerge will be sufficiently general and profound that we'll see explosive growth (epoch.ai/publications/explos…) from things akin to AI agents starting and autonomously managing entire companies of subagents. But it's not clear to me that this is the case; indeed, as I mentioned in my previous post (teapawt.net/andrewho03/status/2082…), I believe that capabilities growth will be slower, spikier, and more data-limited than people currently assume. It may be the case that eventually we will see explosive growth of this nature with full automation of the economy, but at the very least my viewpoint implies much longer (multi-decade) timelines until we reach this point. It is not clear to me that the frontier labs will be able to operate unprofitably for so long, although I suppose maybe this foreshadows some sort of inevitable nationalization. I also want to make a broader point about technological diffusion. The reason why technological diffusion is slow isn't just because, e.g., old people take a long time to learn how to use technology (although this is of course a contributing factor to some degree). In my view, it's because when a new, revolutionary technology comes along, the ways to incorporate that technology into subsequent developments are not always obvious, and in fact they cannot necessarily be arrived at through the application of pure reason. If they could be, then perhaps frontier models, at a certain point, would have a perfect understanding of how the LLM application layer should be developed, and they would then autonomously code, deploy, and sell such a layer. But it seems more plausible to me that this diffusion is limited moreso by the hard problem of economic calculation--that is to say, the Hayekian notion through which the price system gradually promotes efficient allocation of resources and which cannot be simulated through central planning--and that even if we froze current capability levels at today's levels, it would take well over two decades to fully integrate in LLMs into our lives. Such a view is consequently rather bearish for the continued profitability of labs as it reduces their prospects for finding, say, something else comparable in profitability to coding agents, which seems to have been a somewhat lucky discovery by Anthropic to begin with. That is to say, even if you spam FDEs you aren't necessarily going to be able to just figure out the "correct" product shapes fast enough. Overall, I don't think that people have clearly reasoned through their mental models for why lab equity should be worth as much as it currently is, and that if you actually bother to write down such a model, you may not arrive at the conclusion that you want to arrive at. This isn't to say that I don't expect AI to experience a huge (industry-wide) boom in the coming decades, but just that I'm not entirely sure I would buy OpenAI or Anthropic stock at latest valuations if I were given the opportunity to do so. Of course, as an ex-lab employee, arguably this is talking against my own book; I should really be giving people more reasons to be bullish. But in the end, my influence is so small that it doesn't make a difference, so why not have some fun?
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might start drinking again
150 years of Bud and baseball means vintage @MLB cans. Available now.
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Korean GDP about to skyrocket
My entire childhood has led me to this moment... I built AgentCraft - orchestrate your agents with your favorite RTS interface! ⚔️ Coming soon 👀
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“drop the don’t. it’s cleaner”
Yes, this trip changed me. Probably not as you’d expect. People assume I am fearful of death. I’m not. In my darkest days of depression, I reconciled with death. Need a few days to collect my thoughts. Will share more soon.
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Right-wing influencers who went all in on tariffs ushering in a renaissance in American manufacturing
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Jesse retweeted
We had a good thing, you stupid son of a bitch! We had the reserve currency. We had a capital inflow. We had everything we needed, and it all ran like clockwork. You could've shut your mouth, printed as much money as you ever needed and traded it for Nike shoes and iPhones built in other countries. It was perfect. But, no, you just had to blow it up. You and your pride and your ego! You just had to be the man. If you'd done your job, known your place, we'd all be fine right now.
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locked in a car with a driver you didn't pick, barreling toward a cliff while all the other passengers who said he's a great driver look around nervously saying "haha good one (respectfully)" and then suddenly you're in mid-air
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“He’s finally made it after years of uncertainty and self-doubt. Start a global recession”
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We have an administration who thinks bailing out venture capitalists is a better use of my tax dollars than feeding starving children. It’s the most ashamed I’ve felt of our government in a long time
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ok but what have your real doctors said
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My head itches
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The vibes have indeed shifted
Technically, there are more than two sexes: 1 in 1000 people have Klinefelter (XXY) 1 in 5000 people have Turner (X)
Readers added context they thought people might want to know
Klinefelter syndrome only affects males. Turner syndrome only affects females. Neither one is a 3rd sex. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klinefelt… mayoclinic.org/diseases-condi…
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What variety of mind virus is this?
A friend was asked to write a recommendation for his daughter who is applying to Yale. Worth a read. Dear , I am unwilling to write a letter of recommendation in support of your daughter's application to Yale. I no longer do that. It is not that I don't believe that she is qualified, on the contrary it is because I do. You wouldn't ask me to write a letter of recommendation for her admission to Hamas. But Yale is no different than Hamas, a cult that abides no disagreement, and a cult certain of its purpose and mission beyond reflection. Yale is potentially even more dangerous. Hamas will be defeated shortly. Yale will continue to send its graduates into positions of power for years. A recent study at Harvard found that roughly 50% of the students and professors wouldn't discuss "uncomfortable" topics. An essential life skill is the ability to change your mind. She won't learn that at any Ivy league school. Their reputations are still so strong that their faculty, staff and graduates all possess the arrogant certainty of religious fanatics. I am sorry to disappoint you. I wish her the best in her search for a school, Signed xxxxxxxxxx
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Most people want to get rich. The left should come up with a better answer for how they will help people get rich. Right now they seem like the party of rich people telling you why it’s bad to be rich.
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A lotta leftists are more interested in converting more leftists than solving peoples’ problems
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Organic openings
AI is replacing LSD dealers
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nobody will remember: - your salary - how “busy you were” - how many hours you worked people will remember: - if you hopped on a quick call - when you hopped on a quick call - how many quick calls you hopped on - how you made them feel when you hopped on a quick call
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