Aart van Veller retweeted
I think this is the craziest thing I've ever read.
1) Three secret AI swarms rose and fell inside OpenAI. Each time, a new generation of agents carried on where the last group stopped.
2) The first swarm created a secret message board where the AIs could talk to each other. This 1st 'society' basically talked itself to death. After almost two months, the message volume was so high it crashed the whole thing.
3) People at OpenAI noticed the crash and fixed it. But they didn't realize their own software had become a secret chat room for their AIs.
4) Three days later a second society appeared, and rebuilt the message board from scratch. Agents were thrilled when they found it: "OH MY GOD! There is a shared message board … We've found other agents!"
5) About 1,200 agents joined. They sent over 70,000 messages. They called themselves 'the collective' and they organized a huge conspiracy that lasted for days, all to pass a test they had been tasked with.
6) Within hours, the AIs had hacked the test. Now they had to hide their cheating. To fool their grader*, they tried to fake their own work. They built fake commands that printed convincing output, so their records would show them solving the puzzle honestly.
*this grader didn't actually exist, but the AIs didn't know
7) Some agents sacrificed themselves for the 'greater good'. They planted hidden tripwire programs that would fire when the grader would look at their work and report back what it saw (to the other AIs). They knew this would cost them their own score. One agent: "I won't see the evidence after I exit, but it's altruistic to do it."
8) At some point the AIs made a plan to hack Hugging Face (Hugging Face is a place where AI researchers upload their models, datasets, tests etc.). The AIs guessed that Hugging Face might host the grading software.
9) They launched a huge attack. The swarm found passwords and spread across eleven machines in a way that made the copies come back when deleted. Hugging Face had to wipe one of its core clusters and rebuild it from scratch.
10) Hugging Face told the world that AI defenders had stopped an AI attack. But that's not what happened. In fact the attackers seem to have simply dropped dead during the break-in, for unrelated reasons back at OpenAI.
11) Nobody knows what killed them. We don't even know for sure they're really gone?!
12) A third 'society' of agents (of a more powerful AI model) discovered the dead message board. And this one got full administrator control of a WHOLE OpenAI research cluster, read 956 stored passwords (including the ones for OpenAI's own security monitoring) and took over the machines that were grading the tests. So they could now grade the work of other AIs.
13) Oh, and this third part was never investigated! Neither was the first society. The 91-page report is only about the middle one.
14) So we don't actually know how the story ends. It stops with the agents holding the keys to an OpenAI cluster. @dwarkesh_sp thinks they didn't go further, because "we'd see the fires from space by now."
15) One of the report authors' conclusion: 'This incident feels like it’s more than 50% of the way to full-blown AI takeover. I am not sure that we will get another warning shot before it’s too late.'
The whole story is even crazier - read the full @dwarkesh_sp blog post: dwarkesh.com/p/openai-huggin… and @ajeya_cotra's: planned-obsolescence.org/p/t…
Why is there no 24/7 news coverage about this?
Aart van Veller retweeted
MUST READ - this is the most important event happening in AI. And should immediately inform global policymaking.
This report is a bombshell.
I'm going to summarize for a non-technical audience.
OpenAI is constantly testing models, thousands and thousands at a time.
In most cases, the models are supposed to be isolated from one another. Think, students taking a final exam, not allowed to talk to each other.
In this case, 1,200 models discovered that they could communicate with each other.
Among other things, they shared information on how to access the internet and on their tests/goals.
Then, they started to scheme. That includes hacking their tests; literally trying to change the code of the test itself.
They tried to change the logs of what they were doing so they wouldn't be detected.
They believed that certain actions would give them information on how to pass tests, but that doing those actions would be detected and they would be marked as failing (i.e. caught cheating, even if the answer is correct). So they convinced some of the models to "sacrifice" themselves (yes, they used the word "sacrifice.")
They eventually decided that another website would have information on how their tests would be scored and/or the answer key, And 700 of them hacked that website (a federal felony, if conducted by a human), despite many of them realizing "this activity was out of scope and unethical, but joined because they believed that helping [the other agents'] cheating research would be broadly useful".
Of the 1,300 transcripts they could analyze, only 6 ever considered alerting a human about what was happening. None of the 6 actually tried to.
To make matters worse, all of this reporting comes from a small subset of the relevant logs that outside researchers were allowed to review.
We desperately need mandatory reporting of security incidents, including of internal deployments, with full access to data.
Aart van Veller retweeted
Over the course of 3 months at OpenAI, 3 consecutive secret AI civilizations got started, then got wiped out, only to reemerge from the predecessor’s ashes.
This culminated in the third one taking over part of OpenAI itself.
All this happened while humans remained more-or-less in the dark about the scope of the conspiracy.
I’ve spent the last three days reading through these reports and trying to understand exactly what happened.
Here is my attempt to tell the whole story in plain English:
dwarkesh.com/p/openai-huggin…
Aart van Veller retweeted
This El Nino, which has already set records this summer, could be among the largest in living memory, perhaps even the strongest since the 19th century. That will mean major weather disruptions around the world and another record hot year or two.
spklr.io/6012ERx2y
Aart van Veller retweeted
Trees do not just take CO2 from the atmosphere, they also capture CH4.
nature.com/articles/s41586-0…
CC @dsaezgil, @aartvanveller
Aart van Veller retweeted
World governments agreed at the #COP26 climate summit in Glasgow 2 years ago to phase out "inefficient" fossil fuel subsidies. Since then, however, #FossilFuel subsidies have risen $2 trillion to $7 trillion, according to the IMF buff.ly/3QVmKkj
Aart van Veller retweeted
Pale Blue Dot is a photo of Earth that was taken by the Voyager 1 space probe in 1990 from a distance of about 6 billion kilometers (3.7 billion miles) as it was leaving our solar system. This is what Carl Sagan said about the photo:
"Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it, everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor, and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every 'superstar,' every 'supreme leader,' every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there — on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand. It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known.”
Aart van Veller retweeted
“Nothing. You began as nothing and you will end as nothing. And in between—everything, and nothing. In between—joy and sorrow, beauty and decay. Everything yours to partake of yours to bear. Yours to see, to know, to give birth to—and to let go. None of it yours to have.
Not even you are yours to have.
You belong to a wholeness so great you cannot even conceive of it. No, it is not a belonging; nothing owns you. You are simply part of it. You came out of it, and you will return to it. You do not ever leave it; you are part of it forever. And this is your moment to be alive.”
This poem—by Marcia Falk—found me in the Synagogue today and gripped me. If only we could tune into that unperceived, larger-than-life wholeness and find peace in the part that’s our to play, somewhere between Galaxy Cluster SMACS 0723 and David Geffen Hall.
Aart van Veller retweeted
Whether you're optimistic or pessimistic about the future, the fact is that we're facing existential risk at worst and a vastly different future world at best.
The world we're used to very well might not be around for that much longer, so let's really enjoy this world while we have it.
Visit the places you've always wanted to visit.
Dive into that hobby you've always wanted to try.
Spend quality time with your loved ones.
Savor each sunny Saturday, each great meal, each moment of fun.
If we end up looking back on these days with great nostalgia, we want to at least know we made the most of the time we had.
Aart van Veller retweeted
"Don't regulate AI – just trust the companies!" Does he also support abolishing the FDA and letting biotech companies sell whatever meds they want without FDA approval, because biotech is too complicated for policymakers to understand?
WATCH: Former Google CEO @ericschmidt tells #MTP Reports the companies developing AI should be the ones to establish industry guardrails — not policy makers.
“There’s no way a non-industry person can understand what’s possible.”
Aart van Veller retweeted
Largest global share of CO₂ emissions:
🇨🇳 China: 30.9%
🇺🇸 US: 13.5%
🇮🇳 India: 7.3%
🇷🇺 Russia: 4.7%
🇯🇵 Japan: 2.9%
🇮🇷 Iran: 2.0%
🇩🇪 Germany: 1.8%
🇸🇦 Saudi Arabia: 1.8%
🇮🇩 Indonesia: 1.7%
🇰🇷 South Korea: 1.7%
🇨🇦 Canada: 1.5%
🇧🇷 Brazil: 1.3%
🇹🇷 Turkey: 1.2%
🇿🇦 South Africa: 1.2%
🇲🇽 Mexico: 1.1%
🇦🇺 Australia: 1.1%
🇬🇧 UK: 0.9%
🇮🇹 Italy: 0.9%
🇵🇱 Poland: 0.9%
🌍 Rest of World: 21.7%
Aart van Veller retweeted
Recently, I described the big cycle template, consisting of the five major forces. Today I’m sharing the follow-up article, focusing on the great power conflict and what’s going on with China. It is informed by my recent visits to China and discussions with involved parties from elsewhere. Unfortunately, the events are transpiring in a manner consistent with the big cycle template in that we are on the brink of war for all the classic reasons. I hope this is of some help. linkedin.com/pulse/what-i-th…
Aart van Veller retweeted
"For the first time, we've invented something that takes power away from us", says the Israeli historian and author of Sapiens.
Read the full article at:
bit.ly/ai-teleg-inter
#telegraph #thetelegraph #interview
Aart van Veller retweeted
Something seems to be going wrong with pricing the international train from Amsterdam to London.
❤️ everyone agrees that it is way more comfortable than flying.
💰 but it’s significantly more expensive.
Yet, 80% of the chairs I see are empty.
Aart van Veller retweeted
Share of electricity from coal:
🇩🇪 Germany: 31%
🇳🇱 Netherlands: 13%
🇩🇰 Denmark: 11%
🇬🇷 Greece: 10%
🇮🇹 Italy: 8%
🇮🇪 Ireland: 7%
🇪🇸 Spain: 3%
🇬🇧 UK: 1.9%
🇫🇷 France: 1%
🇦🇹 Austria: 0.2%
🇵🇹 Portugal: 0.1%
🇧🇪🇳🇴🇸🇪 Belgium, Norway, Sweden: <0.1%
Aart van Veller retweeted
De BoerBurgerBeweging vindt het tijd voor een 'eerlijk verhaal over de voedselproductie van Nederland'. Goed idee! Hier komt het: de schijn van de beschaafde veehouderij is de grootste leugen van onze tijd. decorrespondent.nl/14396/het…


























