The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints - Dad of 4 - Shruggers Book Club
Frankenmuth, MI
Joined September 2010
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This is exactly what I warn members about.
Way less people are going to accept the true gospel than most think. They won't abide celestial law
I found the original letter, That sparked President Oak's response. It's as cringe as you think it is. President Oak's responded in a far more Christlike manner than I would have.
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I often address this directly when I visit and sit in on ward and branch councils.
One time I heard someone say we're a volunteer organization. We're not. We have all raised our arms to the square and consecrated all we have to the building up of the kingdom.
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Many suspect this same thing of Dan
The lean into scholarship is so heavy - he makes the same mistake scholars have made for centuries. He's too busy feigning objectivity that he forgets to stand for anything - adamant that he separates personal faith and profession
This is the last time I will mention or refer to Jacob Hansen on social media. This is in response to my pointing out that Jacob pretends to have the prerogative to arbitrate "the boundaries of the celestial order." He pretends that he's just reporting static & objective lines >
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Say what you want about the lady - at least she had the sense to leave and not attempt to corrupt others by masquerading as a faithful believer in the doctrine
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Ben Kaiser retweeted
Pay attention.
When is the last time you watched the episode of SpongeBob: Shanghaied
It's hilariously superb - maybe the best episode
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Since what occurred in Grand Blanc, I have been trying to get the inoperable and unusable windows in 2 separate buildings within our stake replaced and am being told - they're not supposed to open.
Before the police began breaking them, their operable windows saved many lives.
Awesome. We won’t see any improvements here for at least 50 more years. We can’t even get mounted cameras or mounted whiteboards in classrooms or basic repairs to things.
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Ben Kaiser retweeted
Not so fast, Belgium.
The city of Los Angeles still has another 29 days to count all the goals from tonight's match.
This guy is absolutely delusional if he honestly thinks that dehumanizing an entire religion doesn't cause radicalization against that faith.
Don't forget that the day a man drove his truck into a church, started shooting, and then burned it down, people were too busy qualifying their statements with some form of "but they're not Christian" to actually care about what occurred. As quick as that building burned - so it was with how quick those that even noticed in the first place moved on.
Kyle and everyone else deflecting and downplaying what happened by hiding behind faux parallels to leftism enjoy these fruits only because we're basically choked each Sunday with the doctrine of being peacemakers.
We're humans, Americans, your neighbors, and would stand shoulder to shoulder with you in any righteous endeavor. And yet you justify the treatment because it's low "T" to combat it.
Was it low T to be forced from their homes again and again? How about hunted down due to the extermination order? What about freezing the death on the plains? Our history is steeped in bloody tragedy - mostly at the hands of the evangelical right!
Yet we vote with you, argue for mutual causes, serve in your communities, give relentlessly to your charities and even if we solved every major humanitarian crisis on the face of this earth you would still come with the same 5 bullshit arguments against us.
The Mormons coming out of the woodwork to cry about this post is astounding. Read the comments. Just whiny victim crap.
I have never met LDS dudes like this in person. Maybe because they were either military or law enforcement colleagues. Such low-T stuff below.
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Data Centers bring tech. Tech people hate you. They will destroy your state. They will corrupt your local governments, schools, universities, and usher in legislation that at every turn seeks to strip away fundamental rights in the name of whatever is trending at the time
truly don't understand why I'm supposed to be upset about this.
"They want to build a big building in the middle of nowhere" okay?
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Theo Von Gets Emotional Over Jesus ✝️ youtube.com/shorts/7cjODOZ7W… via @YouTube
Too many people feel like this and don't know it or at least cannot articulate it. Worse, those that love, hope, and pray to help don't know how or are often frustrated.
It's that old adage - you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. When the Lord says "an appointed time" or "in his time" or "in due season" or even "wait upon the Lord" - he too means that even if you think you're ready or think it's time, or if you're wondering when this season will end or circumstances change...
He knows us better than we know ourselves and when we say we wait upon the Lord it is not without anxious, consistent, and earnest effort - rather, there is a patience and a faith associated with waiting upon the Lord.
I pray for Theo and all those in the season of change - that they keep searching and may they find the Lord's hand outstretched
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I calculated the exact % I paid last year which includes fast offerings. This was just paying on Gross & again, fast offerings or other donation categories: Gross Income divided by total donations: 10.7%
Does it really matter how I calculate my tithing?
Yes. It matters a LOT.
The Doctrine and Covenants defines tithing as "one-tenth of all [your] interest," which the Church Handbook further clarifies as "income." Beyond that specific definition, the Church generally leaves the mechanics of the calculation to the individual.
While the "gross vs. net" debate is common, we rarely put numbers on the conversation. To see how much these interpretations diverge in practice, I ran a case study for a hypothetical family with a stable, comfortable income and a 25% savings rate across eight different plausible methodologies of calculating tithing-- all of which I have heard from active, recommend-holding Latter-day Saints.
For a family making $150,000/year, the difference between the lowest and highest interpretations in this scenario is nearly $21,000! 😮
Why the Numbers Matter
This exercise isn't meant to prescribe a specific method or define what is "right." For that, see the Handbook and the words of the Prophets (churchofjesuschrist.org/stud…).
But the Lord instructs us to "count the cost" (Luke 14:27-33) and be informed and intentional about our discipleship. This case study should help ground the conversation and decisions around tithing calculation.
Explore the Data
If you want to see how these different "lenses" change the math for your own household, you can view and copy the calculation spreadsheet here:
docs.google.com/spreadsheets…
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There was some controversy about the comment made during general conference about selling a car to pay tithing. People should do that and then some to stay current. Whatever it takes.
One of the strongest witnesses & testimonies I have of seeing the Lord's hand in my life has been a direct result of paying tithing: exactly, & then some.
My Bishop confided in me that many members are claiming they are now unable to pay tithing.
This will not end well.
I recommend doing anything needed to pay tithing. Stopping the payments of tithing can mess up your life real quick!
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