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silentbuilder retweeted
This reminds me of an off-plan property purchase gone horribly wrong.
You buy because you recognise the brand and the developer has a reasonably good reputation. You commit your savings and keep paying the instalments. Meanwhile, the marketing continues: beautiful images of the finished development, reassuring progress updates, and promises that handover is coming soon. Everything encourages you to believe the developer intends to deliver what it sold you.
Then, close to the expected handover, construction stops.
The developer says the economy was bad, the project is no longer viable, and it’s sorry. There will be no property and no refund. The money you committed, perhaps years of savings, is gone.
When buyers demand answers, they’re reminded that there were risks all along. Instead of a meaningful remedy, they’re offered help finding another project to invest in, as though the answer to losing money is to commit more money somewhere else.
Imagine how that would feel. You made decisions based on the developer’s reputation, its communications, and the expectations it continued to encourage. Now you’re left carrying the loss while the people responsible are silent, and it would seem, expect everyone to simply accept the outcome and move on.
Nearly Two Years on Abstract: A Personal Account
After investing nearly two years of my time, energy, and money into @AbstractChain, the reported decision to shut down the chain has left me deeply disappointed.
I was not a casual participant. I played countless games, created content, completed hundreds of thousands of transactions, remained active for hundreds of days, accumulated millions of XP, and spent approximately $30K across the ecosystem. The attached Abstract Passport reflects only part of that commitment.
Throughout this journey, the community was repeatedly encouraged by ambitious statements from the leadership. Michael Lee (@CashBowie) spoke confidently about a future token, potential XP rewards such as flights, accommodation, Super Bowl tickets, and World Cup tickets, and a sustainable ecosystem where people could both enjoy themselves and earn value.
Luca Netz (@LucaNetz) also described an economy in which users would not simply play games but could earn from their participation. He discussed Project Quantum, a potential token valuation of $20B to $30B FDV, and a system through which XP and community activity could generate economic value.
These statements created expectations. They gave people reasons to invest more time, money, creativity, and trust in Abstract. Yet, from my perspective, the outcomes repeatedly presented to the community never materialized. Instead, users were kept engaged by increasingly ambitious promises while receiving little clarity about what was actually achievable.
The team made clear promises that encouraged people to invest their time, money, and trust in Abstract. None of those promises were fulfilled, and the community was left without transparency, accountability, or a meaningful explanation.
What hurts me most is not the money. It is the time. Money may eventually be earned again, but almost two years of sustained effort can never be recovered. It is difficult to accept that the people who helped build activity, visibility, and culture around Abstract may now walk away with nothing, without even a transparent explanation or a meaningful attempt at recognition.
Some people appear to take pleasure in the losses of others. I find that truly pathetic. A healthier Web3 community requires more informed participants who are willing to speak when something is wrong. Accountability is not FUD. Asking difficult questions is not an attack. It is one of the few ways this industry can mature.
I also cannot ignore Luca’s silence. If he genuinely believed that the community had been treated fairly, would he not be willing to explain what happened, address the promises that were made, and propose a meaningful solution? Silence may not prove wrongdoing on its own, but in circumstances like these, it raises serious questions. A leader who has nothing to hide should be prepared to communicate openly and take responsibility. Instead, Luca has chosen silence while the people who invested their time, money, and trust are left without answers.
Even redirecting part of the budget used for marketing and merchandise toward recognizing committed Abstract users could have demonstrated goodwill. From the outside, however, it feels as though meaningful compensation or acknowledgment has not been treated as a priority.
My experience with @Somnia_Network showed me that another approach is possible. I became active during its testnet, contributed to the ecosystem, created content, and earned $30K. More importantly, Somnia founder @0xPaulThomas consistently communicated the project’s development, updates, and objectives through video content. Whether everything succeeded or not, the community could see genuine effort, progress, and leadership.
My experience with Abstract was the opposite. Apart from interviews, which were often filled with major promises, Luca rarely communicated directly about the project during the nearly two years I participated. Those interviews strengthened people’s confidence and encouraged further commitment, but the community now deserves more than silence.
After everything that has happened, I have completely lost my trust in Luca and his team. Trust cannot survive indefinitely on branding, interviews, or promises. It requires delivery, transparency, and accountability, especially when people have invested significant portions of their lives and savings.
This is my personal experience, supported by the record of my activity in the attached Abstract Passport, a tool created by Abstract community member @bycoinraven. I welcome informed disagreement and any factual corrections from the team. However, please engage with the substance of what happened before dismissing the concerns of those who gave this ecosystem their time, money, and trust.
The Abstract community deserves answers.
silentbuilder retweeted
Some say that Abstract is "being responsible" by not launching a token with no pmf. But for years users spent real money on XP with the promise of a token. And these promises helped moon PENGU. Of which the team sold hundreds of millions of dollars worth. Compensate these people.
Luca Netz made me lose faith in Web3.
I was on Abstract from day one. I never stopped believing because Luca was behind it, and I trusted his promises. I spent around $40–50K and dedicated nearly two years of my life to it.
We were promised a token. They kept our hopes alive until the very end, only to tell us we would receive nothing for the Xp we had earned.
After all that time, money, and trust, I feel scammed by @LucaNetz I won’t stay silent
Nearly Two Years on Abstract: A Personal Account
After investing nearly two years of my time, energy, and money into @AbstractChain, the reported decision to shut down the chain has left me deeply disappointed.
I was not a casual participant. I played countless games, created content, completed hundreds of thousands of transactions, remained active for hundreds of days, accumulated millions of XP, and spent approximately $30K across the ecosystem. The attached Abstract Passport reflects only part of that commitment.
Throughout this journey, the community was repeatedly encouraged by ambitious statements from the leadership. Michael Lee (@CashBowie) spoke confidently about a future token, potential XP rewards such as flights, accommodation, Super Bowl tickets, and World Cup tickets, and a sustainable ecosystem where people could both enjoy themselves and earn value.
Luca Netz (@LucaNetz) also described an economy in which users would not simply play games but could earn from their participation. He discussed Project Quantum, a potential token valuation of $20B to $30B FDV, and a system through which XP and community activity could generate economic value.
These statements created expectations. They gave people reasons to invest more time, money, creativity, and trust in Abstract. Yet, from my perspective, the outcomes repeatedly presented to the community never materialized. Instead, users were kept engaged by increasingly ambitious promises while receiving little clarity about what was actually achievable.
The team made clear promises that encouraged people to invest their time, money, and trust in Abstract. None of those promises were fulfilled, and the community was left without transparency, accountability, or a meaningful explanation.
What hurts me most is not the money. It is the time. Money may eventually be earned again, but almost two years of sustained effort can never be recovered. It is difficult to accept that the people who helped build activity, visibility, and culture around Abstract may now walk away with nothing, without even a transparent explanation or a meaningful attempt at recognition.
Some people appear to take pleasure in the losses of others. I find that truly pathetic. A healthier Web3 community requires more informed participants who are willing to speak when something is wrong. Accountability is not FUD. Asking difficult questions is not an attack. It is one of the few ways this industry can mature.
I also cannot ignore Luca’s silence. If he genuinely believed that the community had been treated fairly, would he not be willing to explain what happened, address the promises that were made, and propose a meaningful solution? Silence may not prove wrongdoing on its own, but in circumstances like these, it raises serious questions. A leader who has nothing to hide should be prepared to communicate openly and take responsibility. Instead, Luca has chosen silence while the people who invested their time, money, and trust are left without answers.
Even redirecting part of the budget used for marketing and merchandise toward recognizing committed Abstract users could have demonstrated goodwill. From the outside, however, it feels as though meaningful compensation or acknowledgment has not been treated as a priority.
My experience with @Somnia_Network showed me that another approach is possible. I became active during its testnet, contributed to the ecosystem, created content, and earned $30K. More importantly, Somnia founder @0xPaulThomas consistently communicated the project’s development, updates, and objectives through video content. Whether everything succeeded or not, the community could see genuine effort, progress, and leadership.
My experience with Abstract was the opposite. Apart from interviews, which were often filled with major promises, Luca rarely communicated directly about the project during the nearly two years I participated. Those interviews strengthened people’s confidence and encouraged further commitment, but the community now deserves more than silence.
After everything that has happened, I have completely lost my trust in Luca and his team. Trust cannot survive indefinitely on branding, interviews, or promises. It requires delivery, transparency, and accountability, especially when people have invested significant portions of their lives and savings.
This is my personal experience, supported by the record of my activity in the attached Abstract Passport, a tool created by Abstract community member @bycoinraven. I welcome informed disagreement and any factual corrections from the team. However, please engage with the substance of what happened before dismissing the concerns of those who gave this ecosystem their time, money, and trust.
The Abstract community deserves answers.
silentbuilder retweeted
Luca Netz made me lose faith in Web3.
I was on Abstract from day one. I never stopped believing because Luca was behind it, and I trusted his promises. I spent around $40–50K and dedicated nearly two years of my life to it.
We were promised a token. They kept our hopes alive until the very end, only to tell us we would receive nothing for the Xp we had earned.
After all that time, money, and trust, I feel scammed by @LucaNetz I won’t stay silent
It’s not hard to understand why @BoredApeYC is the most successful project.
On one side, there’s a team that constantly exploits its users and makes empty promises; on the other, there’s a team that genuinely values and rewards its community.
I’m not surprised, and people will realize this soon enough.
The Apes are truly building differently.
Pudgy DAOs: Public Support, Private Accountability?
Pudgy DAOs raises serious questions about transparency, endorsement and accountability within the Abstract ecosystem.
The official launch page states that @pudgydaos was built on @AbstractChain and that its launch event was presented by PENGU Asia. It also announced that Pudgy Penguins CEO Luca Netz (@LucaNetz) and CCO Peter Lobanov (@chefgoyardi) would attend discussions described as helping shape the project’s future.
@PenguAsia, whose X profile displays a @pudgypenguins affiliate badge, also repeatedly promoted Pudgy DAOs. Public involvement from recognized executives and affiliated communities could reasonably have influenced how participants assessed the project’s credibility and risks.
The ED3N Ventures Connection
The network extends to ED3N Ventures. The website linked by @eden_holdings presents Yield Guild Games as a Core Project. Its Highlights section repeatedly features YGG related organizations, partnerships, financing rounds and gaming activities.
The official Pudgy DAOs launch page goes further. It states that ED3N’s track record includes cofounding and scaling YGG and presents ED3N as a venture studio providing projects with capital, strategy and access to a global network.
There is also a verifiable technical connection. Multiple visual assets on the Pudgy DAOs website are loaded through the same content delivery domain used by the ED3N Ventures website. Direct links to these files are included in the evidence section.
This shared infrastructure does not prove that ED3N owned or controlled Pudgy DAOs. It does, however, establish a documented technical link and strengthens the need for both parties to explain the nature and extent of their operational relationship.
YGG Play and Abstract
@YGG_Play also has direct ties to Abstract. YGG confirms that @LOLLandGame was built on Abstract, that @GIGACHADBAT launched there and that Abstract became the primary home of YGG Play’s casual gaming ecosystem.
LOL Land also collaborated with Pudgy Penguins and PENGU Asia through Pengu Wonderland. According to YGG, the project used Pudgy Penguins intellectual property and featured members of the Pudgy community.
ED3N Ventures also repeatedly features YGG, its regional organizations and related gaming initiatives in its Highlights section. These recurring relationships, the support surrounding them and the purposes they served deserve closer examination and a transparent explanation.
User Complaints and Unanswered Questions
Against this background, users replying under a Pudgy DAOs post say they lost money and are requesting refunds.
We have not found a clear public statement addressing these complaints, explaining the project’s current status or establishing whether a refund process exists.
We also could not identify a clear public disclosure naming the founders or responsible operators of Pudgy DAOs. As shown in the evidence section, @fides_0x used collective language when discussing the project.
This language may indicate involvement, but it does not independently establish a specific formal role. That uncertainty is itself part of the transparency problem.
The SimpleFarmer Allegation
A separate allegation was published by @0xStudy, not by @OxSimpleFarmer.
The post alleges that @RajPatel obstructed SimpleFarmer following discussions about launching his project on Abstract.
This allegation has not been independently verified and should not be treated as an established fact. It nevertheless deserves examination and a direct response from Raj Patel or the Abstract team, particularly regarding whether projects were evaluated according to clear and consistent criteria.
The Broader Question
None of these connections independently proves fraud, favoritism or coordinated wrongdoing. Together, however, they raise a legitimate public interest question:
Why did projects connected to prominent executives, affiliated communities and established venture networks receive significant visibility while users were later requesting refunds and another builder was reportedly facing obstruction?
My personal view is that senior figures within Abstract appear to have opened doors for people in their network, while several projects receiving this access later failed or became inactive. I believe this apparent pattern deserves serious and independent scrutiny.
This leads to a broader question that should be investigated rather than assumed:
Was Abstract Chain created or subsequently used, even in part, to provide legitimacy, visibility or liquidity to projects originating from this connected network?
This is my opinion and a question requiring investigation, not an established conclusion. Any credible answer must be based on verifiable records, transparent disclosures and direct responses from the people and organizations involved.
Pudgy DAOs is presented here as a documented case study of a broader transparency problem. Concerns involving other projects should be investigated separately and assessed according to the evidence available in each case.
Public support creates public responsibility. Pudgy leadership, PENGU Asia, ED3N Ventures and Abstract should clearly disclose their roles, the extent of their involvement and the protections that existed for participants.
Evidence
Official Pudgy DAOs Launch Event Page
Documents the involvement of PENGU Asia, Luca Netz, Peter Lobanov, Abstract and ED3N Ventures.
luma.com/PudgyDAOs
Post Containing User Loss and Refund Complaints
xitter.cf/pudgydaos/status/19828…
Fides Post Using Collective Language About Pudgy DAOs
The language may indicate involvement but does not independently establish a formal role.
xitter.cf/fides_0x/status/197393…
ED3N Ventures Core Projects and Highlights
Lists YGG as a Core Project and repeatedly features YGG related organizations, partnerships, financing rounds and gaming activities.
ed3n.ventures/
@0xStudy Allegation Concerning SimpleFarmer and Raj Patel
This is an allegation requiring independent verification and a response from the parties involved.
xitter.cf/0xStudy/status/2108019…
YGG Confirmation That LOL Land Was Built on Abstract
yieldguild.io/news/lol-land-…
YGG Play and Pudgy Penguins Collaboration Through Pengu Wonderland
yieldguild.io/news/ygg-play-…
GIGACHADBAT Launch on Abstract
yieldguild.io/news/ygg-play-…
YGG Description of Abstract as the Primary Home of YGG Play Games
yieldguild.io/news/a-further…
Pudgy DAOs Visual Assets Hosted on the cdn.ed3ninternal.com Domain
Featured DAOs visual asset
cdn.ed3ninternal.com/daos/im…
Raising Soon visual asset
cdn.ed3ninternal.com/daos/im…
Live Raises visual asset
cdn.ed3ninternal.com/daos/im…
ED3N Ventures Asset Hosted on the Same Domain
ED3N website terrain asset
cdn.ed3ninternal.com/ed3n-we…
silentbuilder retweeted
Our lawyers have asked us to begin formally collecting and preserving evidence from affected Abstract users, builders and investors.
So today we’re opening the Recall Evidence Form:
recallpudgy.xyz/evidence
If you were affected, please submit:
• what happened to you
• wallet addresses involved
• screenshots / posts / messages
• transactions and losses
• promises or representations you relied on
• deleted or changed content
• videos, documents or other supporting evidence
• anything else you believe may be relevant
Please stick to facts and upload the strongest evidence you have.
Every submission will help us build a clearer record of what happened, identify patterns across affected users, and support the legal team as the case develops.
If you know someone who was affected, send them the form.
The larger and better documented the case file becomes, the stronger the legal and commercial pressure becomes.
Don’t argue. File it.
silentbuilder retweeted
For those that don’t know.
@coingecko received a massive allocation of $pengu
THIS IS A PAID AD
Courtesy of @pudgypenguins @IglooInc and @LucaNetz
It’s sole purpose is to make you think Pengu is bullish to buy so they can exit their $6M per month vested allocations
$PENGU is up 8.9% today following its listing on SoFi, the first nationally chartered bank to offer crypto trading to consumers.
silentbuilder retweeted
In August 2025, @LucaNetz said:
"I think if we don't IPO in the next two years, I’d be disappointed in myself. So, hold me accountable."
To all rattled Pengus on the timeline, hold your cult leader accountable for the collapse of Abstract and question him on this IPO nonsense.
silentbuilder retweeted
In 2022 Luca Netz openly promoted whitelist farming and how to scale it. Later Abstract encouraged the same kind of activity with XP and badges, then started filtering farmers. Now the network is shutting down on Dec 15. The community deserves a clear explanation
From Farming Whitelists to Filtering Farmers
In January 2022, @LucaNetz publicly described NFT whitelist farming as a way to earn between $7,000 and $15,000 per month. He recommended targeting hyped projects, securing whitelist access and selling before reveal.
In a related post, he explained how the process could be automated by hiring virtual assistants to grind Discord whitelists and involving friends or family in exchange for a share of the profits. Another archived post shows him asking whether anyone could obtain thousands of Discord accounts.
These are not assumptions about his past. His own public statements document that he participated in and promoted the same farming culture that later became a target of scrutiny within Abstract.
@AbstractChain encouraged users to play ecosystem games, collect badges, earn XP and remain continuously active. Many community members spent money and invested substantial time based on expectations created around participation and future rewards.
The Four Pillars document then presented farmers as users to be identified through factors such as activity, behavior, onchain history and reputation. In practice, the founder who once promoted whitelist farming later became associated with an ecosystem that treated farmers primarily as a category to detect and filter.
Now Abstract is winding down. The network says it will cease operating on December 15, 2026. After almost two years of community participation, the final result is not a sustainable ecosystem or a meaningful return for many users. It is a shutdown and a deadline to move their assets.
This is the central contradiction. Farming was presented as a profitable strategy when Luca practiced and promoted it. Under Abstract, similar incentive driven behavior was encouraged through XP and badges, then viewed with suspicion when users expected recognition.
The community deserves a complete explanation of how farmers were classified, which users were excluded and what value was created from nearly two years of their money, labor and attention.
Abstract may be ending, but accountability should not end with it.
silentbuilder retweeted
I have a confession to make.
@LucaNetz paid me to give an HONEST review of Abstract Chain.
So, Luca Schnetzle, here it is.
You spent months:
- selling the dream of mass adoption
- encouraging users to farm XP
- developers to build projects
- communities to invest their time, money and trust
You even promised
Abstract would become the biggest L2 “by a Texas mile”
and publicly asked to be held ACCOUNTABLE!
And what did everyone get?
- shutdown
- tens of millions burned
- another Web3 SCAM
The biggest thing Abstract rugged wasn't a token
It was people's TRUST
And before anyone calls me a salty farmer:
I farmed ZERO XP
I invested ZERO dollars
I lost absolutely NOTHING
I simply believe Web3 deserves better than endless promises followed by excuses and money extraction
So Luca, I hope you enjoyed my honest review
Because HONESTY is exactly what your community deserves from you
- a full explanation
- real transparency
- actual accountability
You asked people to hold you accountable
Well, here we are🐧🤡
silentbuilder retweeted
From Farming Whitelists to Filtering Farmers
In January 2022, @LucaNetz publicly described NFT whitelist farming as a way to earn between $7,000 and $15,000 per month. He recommended targeting hyped projects, securing whitelist access and selling before reveal.
In a related post, he explained how the process could be automated by hiring virtual assistants to grind Discord whitelists and involving friends or family in exchange for a share of the profits. Another archived post shows him asking whether anyone could obtain thousands of Discord accounts.
These are not assumptions about his past. His own public statements document that he participated in and promoted the same farming culture that later became a target of scrutiny within Abstract.
@AbstractChain encouraged users to play ecosystem games, collect badges, earn XP and remain continuously active. Many community members spent money and invested substantial time based on expectations created around participation and future rewards.
The Four Pillars document then presented farmers as users to be identified through factors such as activity, behavior, onchain history and reputation. In practice, the founder who once promoted whitelist farming later became associated with an ecosystem that treated farmers primarily as a category to detect and filter.
Now Abstract is winding down. The network says it will cease operating on December 15, 2026. After almost two years of community participation, the final result is not a sustainable ecosystem or a meaningful return for many users. It is a shutdown and a deadline to move their assets.
This is the central contradiction. Farming was presented as a profitable strategy when Luca practiced and promoted it. Under Abstract, similar incentive driven behavior was encouraged through XP and badges, then viewed with suspicion when users expected recognition.
The community deserves a complete explanation of how farmers were classified, which users were excluded and what value was created from nearly two years of their money, labor and attention.
Abstract may be ending, but accountability should not end with it.
From Farming Whitelists to Filtering Farmers
In January 2022, @LucaNetz publicly described NFT whitelist farming as a way to earn between $7,000 and $15,000 per month. He recommended targeting hyped projects, securing whitelist access and selling before reveal.
In a related post, he explained how the process could be automated by hiring virtual assistants to grind Discord whitelists and involving friends or family in exchange for a share of the profits. Another archived post shows him asking whether anyone could obtain thousands of Discord accounts.
These are not assumptions about his past. His own public statements document that he participated in and promoted the same farming culture that later became a target of scrutiny within Abstract.
@AbstractChain encouraged users to play ecosystem games, collect badges, earn XP and remain continuously active. Many community members spent money and invested substantial time based on expectations created around participation and future rewards.
The Four Pillars document then presented farmers as users to be identified through factors such as activity, behavior, onchain history and reputation. In practice, the founder who once promoted whitelist farming later became associated with an ecosystem that treated farmers primarily as a category to detect and filter.
Now Abstract is winding down. The network says it will cease operating on December 15, 2026. After almost two years of community participation, the final result is not a sustainable ecosystem or a meaningful return for many users. It is a shutdown and a deadline to move their assets.
This is the central contradiction. Farming was presented as a profitable strategy when Luca practiced and promoted it. Under Abstract, similar incentive driven behavior was encouraged through XP and badges, then viewed with suspicion when users expected recognition.
The community deserves a complete explanation of how farmers were classified, which users were excluded and what value was created from nearly two years of their money, labor and attention.
Abstract may be ending, but accountability should not end with it.
Sources
Archived January 2022 post by Luca Netz on whitelist farming:
web.archive.org/web/20220116…
Luca Netz explaining how whitelist farming could be automated and scaled:
xitter.cf/LucaNetz/status/148278…
Archived post in which Luca Netz asks for thousands of Discord accounts: web.archive.org/web/20220103…
@FourPillarsFP report, page 23: Abstract’s approach to identifying and filtering farmers:
docsend.com/view/kre7hr5rr88…
Four Pillars post introducing the report:
xitter.cf/FourPillarsFP/status/1…
silentbuilder retweeted
Unfortunately the pudgy team cant argue any of these facts.
silentbuilder retweeted
I agree and this article is very well written!
Igloo and Abstract’s leadership should establish a transparent, capped, and abuse resistant community recognition program. It could include:
① Recognition based on preserved XP, badges, participation history, and verified onchain activity.
② Direct support for builders, community organizers, and creators who invested significant labor in Abstract.
③ Consideration of documented recurring costs generated through official campaigns.
④ Clear eligibility rules, funding limits, an appeals process, and public reporting.
This is an ethical demand from the community, not a claim that every participant has an identical legal entitlement. A remedy would show that the people who helped produce Abstract’s metrics were not disposable once the strategy changed.





























