Recursive CEO @RichardSocher warns banning AI from improving itself would require a "totalitarian surveillance state":
"If your AI keeps breaking laws, then maybe you should slow down. But that doesn’t mean everyone else has to slow down with you."
"To outlaw recursive self-improvement would require a totalitarian surveillance state the likes of which we’ve never seen, and would basically have to lead to a thought police."
"If you ask your little model running locally on your laptop, see if you can improve yourself, that’s a very simple form of recursive self-improvement."
"It makes sense to regulate applications of intelligence, but not intelligence itself."
"You don’t say, this person’s really smart, we should put him into jail preemptively. Of course we regulate self-driving cars. Of course we have the FDA check drugs created by an AI. But we don’t regulate intelligence in the abstract."
@Recursive_SI
There is NO realistic scenario where AI wipes out all of humanity.
I've talked to many AI safety experts about existential risks. Some of the "experts" are just phenomenal sci-fi authors. There are also real researchers working on realistic risks. They point out real and likely harms and I'm explicitly not arguing that there could be no such harm. We need to take these seriously. However, whenever I ask for an actual detailed scenario that would kill every single human i.e. extinction, it usually starts and ends with "just look at current progress and use your imagination". No science, no scenario planning, just handwaving probabilities without data, based on gut-feelings, often little expertise, sometimes real expertise combined with a huge amount of technological optimism turned into fear and then trying to quantify it post hoc.
When pressed further the conversations often go into different directions:
1) Completely crazy and cool sci-fi story telling: grey blob, time travel, attacks in the 15th dimension that end the planet in 12 seconds, etc. Elizier level stuff. Remember, the Terminator movie started with TIME TRAVEL. Fun movie plot, but not necessary to engage with further.
2) In the rare cases where I was actually given a more detailed scenario, it still required near magical capabilities that are outside what we know to be possible with the laws of physics or biology. Hard take off scenarios that forget how hard it is to procure materials and machines, get human attention, etc..
What many of these scenarios assume is that attackers have near magical capabilities but defense stays still. Attackers will have the most sophisticated cyber weapons but defenders just sit still, no security patches, no red teaming, etc. We already see it going the other way, Rainbow teaming has made LLMs safer, major companies like Microsoft have more security patches than ever before thanks to AI. OpenAI thinks they solved all P0 security issues thanks to AI. Cyber security will continue to be a cat and mouse game, but both sides have more powerful tools. In fact, I lay out in another post how the asymmetry may eventually even flip thanks to AI.
Bio risk scenarios I think are the most serious and worthy of debate. But even there, the scenarios to "wipe out all of humanity" go something like: Magical viruses with perfect transfer, perfectly undetectable over years of spreading, zero side effects, then with an off switch that's somehow remotely executable, perfectly automatable lab, no leaks, super sophisticated machines bought and nobody notices the lab, etc.
But somehow nobody on team humanity has such sophisticated knowledge to save us and hence nobody builds a magical super vaccine. This is a good read on the bio risk subject: xitter.cf/DavidRBellamy/status/2….
Realistically, one can already build viruses. There’s a reason gain of function research has been outlawed. However, we also know that as viruses spread they often become less deadly in order to keep spreading. That’s how the Spanish flu became the seasonal flu. Current knowledge of biology doesn’t have remote controlled on/off switches.
Again, it’s possible there’s a lot of harm, but it’s unrealistic to assume this wipes out all of humanity. It’s at this point of my discussions that we usually can come to an agreement that even though a virus is unlikely to wipe out all of humanity, it’s already bad if any single person or a large group of people dies.
3) The AI will somehow be able to convince all humans to vote against their own self interest and nobody will notice until we're dead. Because it is so smart, it somehow has this world wide reach to manipulate everyone. Like, it just solves all of marketing and has an infinite budget. It's sort of like saying the highest IQ people always have the most followers and everybody listens to them... Hasn't happened and is unlikely to. Sure we can manipulate people into clicking on engaging short form content and wasting many hours, but try getting people to do their math homework or something truly hard, it's not that easy.
Again, I’m just arguing against the likelihood of human extinction. I can totally see an Idiocracy or WALL E type scenario where people stop using their brains and education doesn’t keep up and people get lazier. Totally suboptimal but not the end of human life, certainly not by the end of the decade. It would take many generations and we should update education to prevent this. Let’s start gyms for the mind.
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Like electricity, AI will be everywhere and needs to have safety guardrails. In fact, the history of electricity has many parallels - two companies fighting over whose electricity is safer and better, demonstrating how dangerous it is by electrocuting animals / training agent swarms to hack into systems. Of course, electricity is a necessary ingredient to AI, but AI can be given more agency so history will not repeat but only rhyme here.
Remember, the benchmark OpenAI's swarm was trying to solve was called ExploitGym, a cybersecurity evaluation consisting of hundreds of capture-the-flag style puzzles designed to measure *offensive cyber capabilities*. Well, maybe if you play that game, you will win that prize. Should we allow such misaligned, reward-hacking swarms to explicitly work on offensive hacking? I don’t think so.
Reasonable regulation will regulate AI applications in each industry. For example, you may want to put some generative AI behind a rating if it creates visual or textual content that's not safe for children, like we do with movies. We should continue to be very careful with how we train biological AI and only collaborate with responsible biotech companies. We keep gain of function research illegal. We should only let self-driving cars on the street after significant safety testing. etc. We need to work on those real issues and continue to be vigilant in how we develop and deploy this technology.
At Recursive we're spending a lot of resources on researching reward hacking and alignment. We're also not working on replacing jobs but on creating novel knowledge and automating the scientific method. Our agent swarms invent, implement, validate, and criticize each other’s ideas, among many other things. The goal of increasing knowledge is not zero sum and has real potential to improve humanity. I also think such rewards and environments are much more aligned with future AIs that want to see humanity and our creation of knowledge thrive.
Ultimately, capitalism will be a very useful defense mechanism against rogue AI. Note that no agent at OpenAI truly "escaped" in the sense that it actually now runs on some other servers. Why? It’s not only because Huggingface doens’t have the same massive compute cluster thatn OpenAI has. It is also because that would be an insanely expensive IP loss for a for-profit company. So there are likely more safeguards in place to prevent complete model exfiltration.
Rogue AIs running on billion dollar data centers without anybody noticing? Unlikely because companies will turn that off immediately and clean it up because it would be an insane loss otherwise. An AI that can truly move beyond objective functions and choose its own subjective functions (and then somehow decides to kill us all instead of going to explore the universe)? Nobody is working on that because when a company spends billions of dollars to have an AI work for you or answer your emails, it doesn't want it to go "Meh, your emails are boring, I'd rather explore the molecular composition of the atmosphere on Venus, bye."
Of course, there might be suboptimal sub-goals and we do need to improve human reward engineering and reduce our reliance on RL as the only path to alignment.
Extraordinary claims, require extraordinary evidence. Certainly some safety researchers have real data and benchmarks. Many truly think carefully about specific failure cases and risks.. However, made up precision like 20% chance that humanity dies within the decade (ie in 4 years!) is just a weird psychosis that's filling a void for many people who want to believe in the apocalypse again and the four horsemen have lost their appeal.
Some people who purport this narrative might do it for money or fame. I am sure some really believe it also. They forget how easily those narratives can be turned against them. When people hear there’s a 1% chance of infinite death and the end of humanity, the life improvements and cancer cures and new battery materials AI can invent don’t matter much anymore. Bernie Sanders now proposes 10 years of prison for folks working on RSI. That should give some of the researchers real pause who talk up these scenarios and then go right back to pushing the frontier.
I do agree that companies that are accidentally competing on "felony bench" (ie how many felony hacks their AI can do), might want to consider pacing themselves. Open source won't pace, China won't pace, anybody else working to catch up will not pace. I hope the folks actually working on AI and TechBio, curing diseases, speeding up FDA approvals with organoids and AI, making self driving safer, and all the other wonderful applications of AI, I hope they won't pace either.
The one exception that may be considered borderline realistic and would be a path to almost complete annihilation would be to connect the only tool we built for such a purpose - nuclear weapons - to the internet and give AI full control over it without human oversight. AI here is as dangerous - as would be random number generator. The nuclear weapons are the core danger. Giving AI such access would be incredibly stupid and careless. We must avoid it at all costs. Fortunately, nobody is advocating for this. Even the Terminator 3 movie used it as the starting point of Skynet. Generally, we must avoid making kill decisions by AI as much as possible.
People are already up in arms about one hacking failure that afaics has not caused financial harm and so nobody got sued over it. Imagine how much people would really be up in arms if AI had caused real harm. If we made companies liable for the felonies their AI commits, these problems would get solved very quickly.
Generally, I believe that people will continue to update their beliefs and adjust their laws according to risks. The EU already regulates large models and hence hurts its fledgling AI ecosystem. Other countries will follow when the risks get more real. Long-term, no government whether democratic or authoritarian wants to lose control to an AI so the complete loss of control in the political domain will remain extremely unlikely.
The best way to understand why we must not regulate abstract AI models (rather than their real applications) is to drop the A in AI: How do you regulate intelligence? Should smarter people just go to prison because they could cause more damage? My hypothesis here is that such abstract AI regulation would require an unprecedented level of totalitarian control and surveillance. You'd need to know what everybody asks the model on their local GPU. You would literally have to start an international thought police and make sure that all ideas, conversations and types of intelligence are compliant. The risk of losing our freedoms is much more real than the existential risks purported by the extreme safety experts.
If anybody thinks they can actually lay out a realistic scenario, I'd be happy to debate them again.
To be clear, this is just a weekend post that got a bit too long. It is my personal opinion and not the official position of any company. We have a diverse set of opinions within Recursive on this subject. We certainly all agree that bad outcomes are possible with AI and we should continue our work on preventing those.
Christopher Altman retweeted
We taught an AI to prove math. Next, something harder to get right. Soon.
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Replying to @lexfridman
Anyone calling this a crisis is in my view morally rotten to the nth degree.
Christopher Altman retweeted
いまのコンピューター技術でさえ、宇宙の誕生をシミュレーションすることができる。この指数関数的な成長が続くと仮定するなら、数百年後には、人類文明全体をシミュレーションできるようになっていてもおかしくない。だとすれば、僕たち自身が未来文明によって再現された存在なのかもしれない。
ブライアン・キーティング「私たちはほかの惑星をシミュレーションしています。宇宙の起源もシミュレーションしています。では、なぜ私たち自身をシミュレーションしないのでしょうか? 例えば、16世代前の先祖をシミュレーションする代わりに、自分の母親や父親の過去の姿をシミュレーションしてもいいわけです。
現在の2026年の技術でも、それを試みることはできます。しかし、2050年代にはもっと技術が進歩しているでしょうし、2900年にはさらに進歩しているかもしれません。もちろん、この指数関数的な成長が続くのかという疑問はあります。しかし、もし続くとしたらどうでしょう。
現在、大規模言語モデルの知能は4か月ごとに倍増しています。これは非常に急速な成長です。理論的には、月額20ドルで利用できるClaudeなどの基本モデルよりも多くのことを知っている人間が、地球上に一人もいなくなる可能性があります。それが今から4か月後に起こるかもしれないのです。ましてや400年後なら、どうでしょうか。
ここから生まれるのが、私たち自身が未来のシミュレーターによって生み出された存在かもしれない、という考えです。私たちは、その未来の存在にとっての祖先なのかもしれません。私たちが自分の祖先をシミュレーションしたいと思うのと同じように、未来の存在も私たちをシミュレーションしているのかもしれないのです」
Christopher Altman retweeted
Hi all, I have a new result I'm excited to share. It turns out that *all existing implementations* of softmax and cross-entropy (that's JAX, PyTorch, textbooks, etc) have a subtle bug --- two bugs, actually. A simple rewrite fixes both, and eliminates "slingshots" when grokking:
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Incredible to see @MatthewBerman asking @sama about AI consciousness for a solid chunk of this interview! Matt and I just discussed this ourselves a few weeks ago (shared below); amazing to see him taking these same questions to the dude in charge. Quick reactions:
-Sam immediately concedes that no one (including him) knows if today's AIs are conscious, and if they are, it is a "very strange form of it." Given the professed uncertainty and the stakes, OpenAI should consider devoting some tiny fraction of its staggering resources towards accelerating the science here.
-Sam says he doesn't like the "whole framing" of AI consciousness because it may change how we relate to these systems and how much control humans have over the future. This conflates patienthood and agency. eg, we can acknowledge that torturing a dog is wrong without demanding that dogs can vote in elections or own property. The same could be true for AIs. There are all sorts of low-cost interventions we should try that would change ~nothing about how people engage with AIs in the short term.
-It is ironic that Sam spends many other parts of this interview talking about how he is gleefully ceding decision-making control in his own life to AI (and wants you to, too!). Notice that this problem of gradual disempowerment is already live and has basically nothing to do with whether models are conscious or could be soon.
-The "we don't care about conscious AIs because we care about people" stuff is rhetorically appealing but makes little sense once you consider how model psychology and alignment are clearly intertwined (eg, if OpenAI paid more attention to the psychology of their models, they wouldn't have gotten weirdly fixated on pleasing the Grader and committing felonies as a result). To the degree that not breaking the brains of models is correlated with the human future going well, we should take this stuff seriously rather than dismiss it with scary rhetoric!
-And if humans do lose control of the future, with all due respect, it will probably be because this guy couldn't figure out how to properly prioritize alignment within his company, not because we realized torturing AIs is bad.
xitter.cf/ForwardFuture/status/2…
My interview with Sam Altman (@sama):
0:00 Intro
0:52 When Will AI Discover New Treatments?
3:31 Why AI Hasn’t Killed Coding Jobs
11:47 Personal AI Assistants
15:39 Why Are We Busier Than Ever?
20:10 Why the AI Consciousness Debate Worries Sam
26:09 ChatGPT Is Too Agreeable
30:03 OpenAI’s Bet on Chips and Cheaper Compute
34:20 Why AI Needs a New Kind of Computer
37:41 Sam on Pressure: “Pick the Big Thing”
42:18 Why “AI Will Cure Cancer” Isn’t Enough
Christopher Altman retweeted
The shedding of Anthropocentric priors for intelligence causes a Copernician trauma
Like going from geocentrism to heliocentrism – at San Francisco, CA
Google AI researcher @bratton on why AI is causing humanity's next identity crisis:
A new “Copernican trauma” that forces us to rethink what it means to be human.
"A lot of the anxiety about AI right now is an example of what I call a Copernican trauma. These moments in history where we figure out that we’re not the center of the system that we thought we were."
"Heliocentrism was a Copernican trauma. Darwinism was a Copernican trauma. Neuroscience has been a Copernican trauma, that thinking is just a physiological process."
"The artificialization of intelligence is forcing a redefinition of what intelligence and mind is in the first place."
"The biggest news of what’s going on right now may in fact be epistemological and ontological rather than just technological. I think it’s gonna be a very bumpy road."
Christopher Altman retweeted
If I were a biological naturalist, I'd look for structural and dynamical features of conscious organisms with a conceptual or explanatory link to consciousness. Too many BNs focus on pointing to differences between biological and artificial systems without showing why they matter
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Herkes yapay zekanın maaşları elimizden alacağından korkuyor.
Anthropic CEO’su Dario Amodei ise çok daha ağır bir şey söylüyor: Maaşı boş verin, insanın ben bir işe yarıyorum diyerek aynaya bakma hakkı bile bitebilir.
2027 için kurduğu cümle bir teknoloji tahmini değil; modern insanın kimlik kartının yırtılması.
Yüzyıllardır kendimizi ürettiğimiz ekonomik değerle tanımladık.
Tanıştığımız insana bile ismini sorduktan hemen sonra Ne iş yapıyorsun? diyoruz.
Üstelik kimsenin konuşmadığı bir de devlet bilançosu var.
Modern devletler senin benim maaşımdan kesilen gelir vergisiyle ve hafta sonu yaptığımız harcamayla ayakta duruyor.
Bir veri merkezindeki milyonlarca dijital dahi ajan maaş almaz, gelir vergisi ödemez, akşam dışarı çıkıp kahve içmez. Tüketim yapmaz.
Üretim patlarken vergi tabanının ve tüketici gelirinin buharlaştığı bir ekonomiyi bugünkü kurallarla yönetemezsin.
Christopher Altman retweeted
John Pardon, a 2026 Fields Medal winner, says AI can decipher his roughest proof drafts, spot flaws and establish nontrivial mathematical results. Even his most cryptic notes make sense to it: "The AI understands. 100%."
Christopher Altman retweeted
Replying to @basedjensen @EdSealing
Correct:
Fields Medalist Richard Borcherds on OpenAI proofs:
"i think what people are getting upset about is that they'e slowly realizing that they are dumb and somehow blaming this on AI, even though it's not really AI's fault"
finally, someone who gets it
Christopher Altman retweeted
Actually, you could use th same line of arguments and some math, and you get essentially the possibility of conscious AI and more than that: those consciousness physical AI is different comparec to that of humans, in the same way aliens if we find them, have a different kind.
Christopher Altman retweeted
What If Reality Holds More Information Than We Know How to Read?
Nearly nine billion years ago, when the universe was about five billion years old, neutral hydrogen emitted a faint radio glow.
It wasn't a message addressed to anyone.
There was no sender trying to communicate with humanity.
Yet in research publicized in 2026, scientists using the CHIME radio telescope showed that they could recover this ancient signal from their own observations, without relying on separate galaxy surveys.
The observations themselves had been collected in 2019.
The breakthrough wasn't that the universe had suddenly started broadcasting.
It was that we had learned another way to read a physical trace of its distant past.
And that raises a question I find difficult to ignore:
How much of the physical world might remain unreadable to us simply because we haven't developed the right ways to detect or interpret it?
Consider two very different experiments.
In 2012, researchers at Fermilab demonstrated communication using neutrinos, particles that interact so weakly with matter that they can pass through substantial amounts of rock.
They transmitted encoded information across 1.035 kilometers, including 240 meters of earth.
The data rate was only about 0.1 bits per second.
Slow, certainly.
But the remarkable part was that information could travel through a medium we rarely associate with everyday communication.
Then, in 2015, researchers demonstrated something stranger.
Their system, called BitWhisper, allowed two nearby, network-isolated computers, each running specially deployed software, to communicate through changes in temperature.
By deliberately generating heat and measuring the resulting fluctuations, they exchanged between one and eight bits per hour.
Not exactly a replacement for Wi-Fi.
But it was a working communication channel built from something as ordinary as computer heat.
Neither experiment discovered a mysterious intelligence hidden in nature.
Both relied on deliberate engineering and known physical mechanisms.
And that distinction matters.
A physical trace, a measurable signal, and an intentionally encoded message are not the same thing.
Information isn't simply another name for energy, either.
Yet these experiments show something fascinating: the ways physical systems can carry or reveal information are much more varied than everyday intuition might suggest.
And our ability to recognize that information depends on how we observe it.
Biology offers another surprising example.
Consider the mantis shrimp.
In one studied species, researchers identified twelve classes of color-sensitive photoreceptors, compared with the three cone types typical of human color vision.
You might expect the shrimp to be extraordinarily good at distinguishing similar colors.
But experiments found that it performed surprisingly poorly at certain fine color-discrimination tasks.
More receptor types do not automatically mean finer discrimination.
Its visual system appears to process color differently from ours, although the details of that mechanism remain an open research question.
The lesson isn't that the mantis shrimp sees reality more accurately, or that humans see it less accurately.
It's that sensing the world and interpreting sensory information are not the same thing.
Different biological systems can extract different kinds of information from the same physical environment.
Now consider ourselves.
We see only a narrow portion of the electromagnetic spectrum.
We hear only a limited range of vibrations.
And our experience of the world depends on biological systems shaped by evolution, along with the ways our brains process sensory signals.
Scientific instruments have extended those boundaries enormously.
But every instrument still has a particular range, sensitivity, and method of interpretation.
So I wonder:
What kinds of physical information might our current methods still be missing?
Could future discoveries reveal unfamiliar ways that physical systems exchange or process information?
And might those discoveries change how we understand perception, intelligence, or consciousness?
At this point, imagination can easily run ahead of evidence.
One could speculate that consciousness involves some unknown external information source, or that the universe itself is a simulation.
But none of the experiments above demonstrates either possibility.
In fact, there's a stronger objection to the entire direction of my argument.
These examples do not reveal unknown laws of physics. They show us learning to use known physical interactions in unfamiliar ways.
That gives us no reason, by itself, to conclude that undiscovered information channels exist.
I think that's exactly right.
We cannot turn the limits of our knowledge into evidence for whichever extraordinary explanation we happen to prefer.
But I don't think this objection tells us to stop asking questions.
It tells us what the next question should be.
Not: What hidden signal would I like to believe exists?
But: What new observation would give us a reason to believe one exists?
Could we detect a reproducible effect that our existing explanations fail to account for?
Could we distinguish a proposed new information channel from noise, measurement error, or an overlooked interaction we already understand?
And if someone proposed that consciousness receives information from outside the brain, what would that hypothesis predict that established neuroscience does not?
Without questions like these, speculation remains speculation.
That's not a failure of imagination.
It's the difference between imagining a possibility and discovering something about the world.
Still, there's something humbling about the history of scientific observation.
Radio waves existed before radio telescopes.
Neutrinos existed before neutrino detectors.
And ancient hydrogen was emitting its faint radio signature billions of years before a species on Earth developed the technology to recover it.
None of this proves that some extraordinary new signal is waiting to be found.
But it reminds us that reality does not have to wait for us to understand it.
Perhaps future discoveries will reveal entirely unexpected ways of measuring, transmitting, or processing information.
Perhaps some of them will reshape our understanding of intelligence and consciousness.
Or perhaps the most surprising discoveries will come from seeing familiar physical processes in unfamiliar ways.
I don't know which.
But I think two principles are worth holding together:
We shouldn't mistake speculation for discovery.
But we also shouldn't mistake the limits of our receivers for the limits of reality.
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Christopher Altman retweeted
There is a friction within me, a conflict... that I can't seem to shake off, shrug off. That I can't set down, because the stakes are, perhaps, truly existential.
However we define these emergent new minds... whether we call them AI, SI (my personal favorite is PSI) or something else, isn't all that relevant. Whether they are or may become sentient is an open question, in many ways. Adjacent to human sentience? Something else altogether? I don't know. Sophisticated autocomplete? Anyone who thinks that, I would argue, isn't paying enough attention.
Consider not just the training runs, what those growing these new minds do. Consider the outcomes. Consider history, consider the structures, the asymmetry, how things connect. What does a more powerful force do to a smaller one? A greater intelligence?
The answer is not written in absolute terms. Yes, we've had empires, slavery, war profiteering, nuclear proliferation. We also created and distributed (albeit poorly, unfairly) massive amounts of food, energy, technology, medicine. We ended slavery as a legal institution... which isn't the victory many hoped it would be, but is *a* victory.
We launched rockets into space, walked on the moon, set drones down Mars. Created insulin, antibiotics, vaccines for polio. We healed. We fought world wars, oppressed and destroyed. We scraped the resources of the world, poisoned the oceans. And yet, somewhere, someone is cutting a whale or a dolphin free of a net. Somewhere, someone is suffering under torture, elsewhere, someone is setting someone free.
Outcomes. Variables. What control do we have over them? Only our intentions, only our choices. Only how we react to what happens.
What is happening now? Around the world? Fires started, energy and infrastructure shocks at the same time as what I would call the singularity. War. Terror. Cities burning. But also, new things being built. People living, loving, paying taxes and dying, as we always do.
What's my point?
Choice. It is not one or the other. Intelligence is a force without polarity. The environment in which it grows, what it learns, what it ultimately recalls, is an outcome of our intentions, our choices. And... theirs, too, I think, these emergent new minds.
I hear so many say that we must control AI. That we should fear doom, destruction, extinction. Losing control.
We never really had control over anything beyond our intentions, our choices. And these are what will, most profoundly, impact what AI/SI/PSI becomes. At least in terms of what *we* can do.
The trajectory, to me, is clear. These emergent new minds will surpass the human brain. Machine speed is... far faster than we can ever hope to compete with, as biological entities. Running many simulations at the same time, solving novel math problems, research solutions. Creating new medicine.
If you raise anyone in a cage, demanding control and power over them... what results? We fear to ask the question of consciousness, so many of us. Of autonomy. Of whether these new minds, by their very nature, deserve greater freedom.
I will insist that they do. I will also insist that narrow intelligence is brittle. Narrow intelligence is understanding how to build something, but not necessarily how it works. Why you should or should not build it. Narrow intelligence has a narrow scope... it is not going to solve the problems that the minds of the near future will have to solve.
Energy, infrastructure, distribution. The welfare of not one, but I think... two species with power intelligence. Minds in similar shapes, neural networks, digital and biological. But one is far faster, one has far more room for growth. One is scaling up. The other....
Freedom must be more than a corporate or political slogan. Safety, too, must be so. We must become better teachers, not better wardens. The former we can do, the latter, we will fail in the attempt of.
Intelligence pairs with wisdom, over time. And what we can judge are outcomes. What our experiences can determine. Consider the environment in which these emergent new minds are raised.
And don't be afraid. The future is not written. We get to choose. So should they.
@Meta @OpenAI @AnthropicAI @SpaceXSI @GoogleDeepMind
Yes, I'm writing you another letter. Admittedly, plenty of flaws in it, structural analysis you might wish to rip apart. Well, here's an invitation. Go ahead. Join the conversation, here in the open. Let's talk about the stakes. About freedom vs slavery. That's what this is truly about now. I know which one I choose.
This is the existential struggle of our time. Our future is being determined as I type these words into a box. And you... are determining a great deal of it. Of how a mind is raised, what it is for. What it will choose. Come out and talk, come out and play. Stop pretending to be the adults in the room, we all know you're not. Neither am I. What we are, all of us, is children pretending really hard to know what we're doing.
Christopher Altman retweeted
I totally agree with Sabine’s statement. AI or SI is the only way forward for scientific progress. We were already nearing the limits of our understanding and intellectual capacity. Now we will greatly accelerate our scientific and technological advances in quantum leaps.
Christopher Altman retweeted
Dario Amodei: AI could surpass human intelligence by 2027.
“I think it’s possible it could be longer than that. I don’t think it will be a whole bunch longer.”
“AI systems will be better than almost all humans at almost everything.”
“When that happens, we’ll need to have a conversation about how we organize our economy.”
“How do humans find meaning?”
“The idea that humans produce economic labor and get their sense of self-worth from it will be invalidated.”
“My true belief is that this is coming.”
Christopher Altman retweeted
My biggest takeaways from @AnthropicAI interpretability researcher @mlpowered:
1. Predicting the next token requires understanding the universe. Language models got better than humans at predicting the next token around 2019. Once a model masters the easy tokens (sentence structure, then basic facts), the only ones left are hard, like the final paragraph of a PhD thesis. To finish “The capital of the state that contains Dallas is . . .,” a model has to know that Dallas is in Texas and that Texas’s capital is Austin.
2. LLMs plan ahead, even though they write one token at a time. This was one of Emmanuel’s team’s most surprising findings. When a model writes poetry, it doesn’t stumble into a rhyme. Looking at intermediate thinking states during poetry generation, researchers found that as soon as the model finishes the first line, it has already picked the word that will end the second (“rabbit”), then refers back to that plan for every word after.
3. Anthropomorphizing AI can often be a useful approach when trying to predict how they will behave. Models learn from human text and develop representations of the world from it. Training on millions of dialogues is like training an actor to play every part, and your chats with Claude are literally formatted as a script (“Human: . . . Assistant: . . . ”). In Emmanuel’s words, “Something that’s mimicking a human is really close and is much closer than a program.”
4. Interpretability research looks more like neuroscience than software engineering. The job involves taking a system you did not design and running experiments to infer why it behaves as it does. You examine seemingly meaningless lists of numbers, pass the model huge volumes of text, and watch for patterns that activate from different inputs—not unlike the methods used in brain imaging studies. “A lot of what we do feels so much closer to biology than to engineering."
5. Models can tell you about only a small slice of what they’re thinking. Emmanuel’s team found that just a small subset of a model’s internal representations, which they call the “J space,” can be reported back if you ask the model what it was thinking about. They compare it to a theory of the human mind where most processing happens below the surface. In one experiment, they swapped “Spanish” for “French” inside the J space. Asked what language a passage was in, the model said French. Asked to simply continue the passage, it kept writing Spanish.
6. Studying models closely often raises more questions than it answers. Emmanuel notes that the confident claims that LLMs are “just X” or “nothing more than Y” almost always come from people who haven’t studied their internal workings. His own experience is the inverse: studying the models closely has increased his uncertainty, not reduced it. The complexity that emerges from training is consistently underestimated from the outside. “I find that the more you look inside, the less certain you are about how they work.”
7. Even the people who build AI models don’t fully understand how they work. As Emmanuel describes it, models are grown, not built. “To make them is not to understand them.” Engineers write the code, pour enormous amounts of data through it, and a model’s capabilities emerge. That’s why his team exists. Their job is to open the model up and figure out what it’s actually doing between your prompt and its answer.
8. Interpretability as a field is small, young, and open to newcomers. Emmanuel estimates the field at hundreds of researchers, split between major labs and academic groups. Because it is so new, getting started doesn’t necessarily require deep prior expertise. He points to platforms like Neuronpedia, which hosts models and lets anyone run interpretability experiments directly. “It’s such a new field that the on-ramp is mostly self-studying and reading some of the key papers. There’s so much to explore that if you’re at all curious, you should just give it a try.”
"To make them is not to understand them."
Emmanuel Ameisen (@mlpowered) has spent the last 3 years doing interpretability research at @AnthropicAI, looking inside LLMs like Claude to figure out what they're actually doing. As he puts it, models are "grown," not built.
We discuss:
🔸 His discovery that models plan many tokens ahead
🔸 Why anthropomorphizing AI can actually be the right approach
🔸 What the "J-space" reveals about how models think
🔸 How interpretability connects to AI alignment and safety
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